The one, the only... DARIA!!!   She is a legend and it was amazing to finally connect in real time after all the back and forth we've had over the years.  Just totally awesome, and of course when Zoom kicked us off we had to connect again and dig even deeper, sorry but it's off the record!  In this episode the audio goes straight into the conversation, no intro/outro by me.  Many, MANY thanks to Daria for helping to make this happen!   Would love to talk to and learn from other listeners as well, shoot me an email at [email protected] and we will make it happen.