Tom kicks off the discussion with a listener question about the overwhelming nature of contemporary newsyish media. They delve into ye olde topics like facts, journalism and how we probably need better methods to explain the modern setting. Tom raises the citizen journalist as the last hope of journalism in any romantic context. Jay used to like Jeremy Scahill. Tom briefly confuses insomnia with amnesia. Jay raises the idea or science as magic. Tom discussions the British news media in contrast to the US news media with particular attention to David Frost, Lord Hutton, the UK population's understanding of the Iraq War and the BBC as a pedophile clearing house (see Operation Yewtree). Jay gives a practical example of her use of the news media. Tom references the Intelligence Unclassified podcast to point out that all Jay's jive talk won't sway good Americans. Jay talks about her anti-war un-American behavior. Tom has found his burden of responsibility with regards to slavery. They discuss whether the podcast needs a musical outro.

Jay wants to talk about prisons and Tom wonders what comes after failed drug policies. They delve into true crime televisions including some classics. Tom starts the discussion about Jay's time in Turkey with a brief discussion on cats. Jay explores her experience eating dinner to being part of an evolving demonstration against tear gas and pepper-spay laced water cannons. Jay has been protesting a little closer to home. Tom returns to some fundamentals of the podcast.

What will they teach in schools? http://shortfunk.com/archive.html#656

Education and commitment. http://shortfunk.com/archive.html#654

Can there be a practical use? http://shortfunk.com/archive.html#653

Jay had a Saturday morning. Tom shouts out the Green Line podcast as something worth listening to for a particular perspective. Sadly all the race-war podcasts Tom used to listen to are no longer available but he does advocate reading the Turner Diaries as a means of understanding John McCain amongst others. [Dr. Umar Johnson was the origin of Tom reading the Turner Diaries.] They discuss the curious case of the urban zombies. They discuss the lack of romance of humans at any time but those Polynesians were different. Jay talks about her new job. They dive boots-and-all into psychometrics. Tom recommends two of his prior podcasts: Stone Ape, for linguistics and narrative analysis and, Biota, for simulation analysis. Jay has concerns with psychometrics and Tom advocates for embracing those concerns but utilizing the data. They take feedback from a scientist. Tom raises the idea of fighting the body and the mind.

They start by taking about Jay's recent visit to Washington DC to disrupt the inauguration and to participate in the Women's March. Tom provides a footnote to open source activism and talks about what he would like to see in terms of the strength of discourse. Jay raises the size of crowds and Tom talks about some of the science behind this. Sean Spicer is impossible to ignore. Tom puts his experience in San Jose up for analysis. Jay provides a great insight on her time in DC with an example of strategic use of privilege. Under Jay's instigation they return to Assange and the Russians. Tom gives some analysis on Grizzly Steppe. [Note: Unfortunately there were various technical difficulties which cut a small portion of the recording.] Tom concludes the recording with a reflection on the inevitability of war.

Tom announces the name of the podcast, This Comes Next. Jay wants to talk about artificial intelligence. Tom digresses into a discussion about termites and Iranian terminators. Tom wants to talk about wargaming so asks Jay about her experiences. They discuss the paradox associated with a political perspective and existing in a hyper-capitalist society. They explore the health of the mind. Tom asks Jay about how she divides religion and the mind. Tom starts the discussion on Obamacare. Why is activist a loaded term for Jay? In contrast, Tom prefers raised-by-wolves. Jay wants to understand the humor that enable Tom to survive through corporate hierarchies. They discussion Election Night 2016. Tom kicks off the analysis on Assange and a brief discussion of the Russians - to be continued.

Jay Carmona and Tom Barbalet start a pilot discussion. Tom talks about meeting a person recently in a book he wrote more than twenty years ago. Jay talks about her experiences living in an isolated environmentally-centric community. They explore Jay decision to go to university as a means of understanding her childhood environment. Tom talks about car culture and asks about Jay's involvement with 350.org in this context. They discuss simulation and militant atheists as an impact on the carbon climate analysis. Tom takes a little wander through simulation science and turns the discussion to Unitarianism and Quakers in the context of social change. They discuss the nature of rituals in crossing religious boundaries. Tom has to explain Model Rail Radio. [Editor's Note: Unfortunately there is a Skype issue with longer recordings which impacted the end of this recording.]