For four decades America has been led away from the values of opportunity and creative ingenuity that led it to become the greatest power in the world. Inequality has grown, society has grown more divided, and power has grown more concentrated in the hands of the few. How we got here is revealed in Kurt Andersen's brilliant, insight-rich new book "Evil Geniuses: The Unmaking of America: A Recent History." In this episode we talk to Andersen about the book, about the choices we currently face as a society, about who is responsible for the state we are in and about who may ultimately determine how we break out of this era and its crushing consequences. Andersen's book comes out early next week, so you'll have the chance to listen to the podcast and then pre-order the book and still get it just as it is hitting the bookstores. A great, thought-provoking conversation you won't want to miss.

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