This is HCD: Human-Centred Design, UX & Service Design

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Ben Reason co-founded Livework in 2001 with the bold claim that service design was a thing worth building a company around. Twenty-five years later, he is the last original founder standing and still pushing the discipline forward. In this conversation, Ben and Gerry (yes, we know, just like the ice-cream) trace the arc from those early days of helping brands figure out the internet, through to a landmark engagement with the UK Parliament where a service operating model replaced a chaotic, project-driven backlog and delivered transformation two years ahead of schedule.

They explore what it takes for organisations to recognise they deliver services in the first place, how journey management plugs design into operations, and why the current moment feels like punk: stripping away the noise to focus on what actually works. Ben also shares reflections on scale, why mid-sized organisations often get the most from this approach, and what it would look like if governments truly designed the services they provide to citizens.

3 key takeaways

1. The UK Parliament replaced a broken project-led approach with a service operating model, organising around customer journeys and cutting a five-year transformation down to three.
2. Before you can sell journey management, an organisation needs to recognise it delivers services in the first place. Skip that step and you are wasting your time.
3. Service design is countercultural by nature. It cuts across silos and vested interests, and right now the discipline is in its punk moment: stripping back to the grassroots of what actually delivers value.

Links from the episode

• Ben on LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/breasy
• https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-disability-benefits-policy-had-been-well-designed-ben-reason-u7pwf/?trackingId=iFRycmcxR9%2B47n9uWGK%2F8A%3D%3D
• https://liveworkstudio.com/insight/gonzo-service-design/
• UK Parliament case study: https://liveworkstudio.com/case/a-service-operating-model-for-high-profile-customers/
• Take a free course on Journey Management with Gerry and Marc Stickdorn: https://www.thisishcd.com/dashboard/learning/introduction-to-journey-management

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Every year, I get asked which podcasts I listen to. This year, I'm flipping the question. I've built a community vote for the top 100 HCD, service design and UX podcasts - and we're making it annual. Vote by the end of May at https://2026-podcasts.thisishcd.com
Have a great week!

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Forms expert Caroline Jarrett joins Gerry to talk about why the rush to AI is colliding with something most organisations haven't fixed - their own data. A conversation about errors, forms, and the unglamorous work that actually moves the dial.

Three Key Takeaways

Well, 6 in this episode, as Caroline is bloody amazing. Pick the three that land hardest for you :-)

1. Forms are the only compulsory part of a service. Everything else in user experience is the mountain - forms are the tiny red peaks poking up above it. Get them wrong and the rest of your design doesn't matter.
2. AI doesn't fix bad data - it propagates it faster. Before any organisation hands work over to a model, the honest question isn't "how do we use AI" but "do we even know how bad our data already is?"
3. Most teams can't tell you their error rate. E-commerce calls it conversion. Government barely tracks it at all. If you can't see where people are dropping out - or being quietly forced into wrong answers - you can't design your way out of it.
4. Forms don't just collect data, they shape behaviour. Every time a website rejects an apostrophe in O'Connor, or hides "other" as an option, it's forcing people to lie - and then treating that lie as truth.
5. You don't have to be a statistician to find errors. Graph the data. Spikes, gaps and outliers will tell you where the wrong question is hiding faster than any spreadsheet ever will.
6. The designer's job is to notice what everyone else has normalised — the broken form field, the impossible question, the dataset everyone distrusts but nobody fixes.

• https://www.effortmark.co.uk/
• uk.linkedin.com/in/carolinejarrett

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When you walk into an organisation that does not understand what design really does, your first instinct might be to set up a research phase or propose a design system. But that can wait. In this episode, Gerry Scullion shares three things that actually build credibility in those critical early weeks: being useful to the people around you before advancing your own agenda, adapting your language to fit their world instead of leading with jargon, and documenting every small improvement so you have real evidence when it counts. Credibility is not built on a single presentation. It is built through consistent, visible contributions that make people want to involve designers more often.

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The metrics-driven leader isn't your enemy — but they might be your biggest unlock. Gerry shares a practical approach to translating qualitative insights into the language of KPIs, OKRs, and cost savings, and why winning over this type of leader can amplify your impact across the whole organisation.

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Gerry Scullion - Host

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You've done the research. You have the insights. You walk in confident — and it falls flat. In this episode, Gerry unpacks three mistakes designers make when pitching to leadership, including why leading with your methods kills buy-in before you've even started, and what to do instead.

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AI and design — not the hype, not the doom, but the practical reality. Behrad Mirafshar is the founder of Bonanza Design and host of the UX for AI podcast. He's been deep in the weeds using AI in real client projects — from research and data sense-making through to agents, automation and building modern applications. In this conversation, Gerry and Behrad explore why the real value of AI-driven design sits in the research phase, not auto-generated wireframes. They discuss how designers can use AI as a sparring partner and agent ecosystem to move faster through the double diamond, what skills and attitudes will matter most as we head toward 2030, and the tough questions around bias, inclusion, data ownership, and the younger generation using these tools.

• https://www.bonanza-studios.com/
• de.linkedin.com/in/behradmirafshar

3. Three Key Takeaways

1. The real value of AI in design is in research, not wireframes. If you're only using AI to generate screens, you're touching the tip of the iceberg. The power sits in navigating massive datasets, creating blueprints for exploration, and making sense of complexity — but the researcher's instinct and judgement still can't be replaced.
2. AI should make you charge more, not less. Behrad is delivering more value to clients by using AI agents and orchestration tools — and pricing accordingly. The competitive advantage isn't the tool, it's the designer who knows how to wield it with specificity and judgement.
3. In 2030, hiring will be about attitude, not tools. The tools will keep changing every week. The designers who thrive will be the ones with relentless curiosity, a willingness to go deeper than surface-level prompting, and the ability to keep the human in the loop when AI wants to run the show.

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What does psychological safety actually feel like when it's present? And what quietly erodes it? In this episode, Louise Dennison O'Shaughnessy — Director of Mental Health and Wellbeing at EHS International — joins Gerry to unpack the behaviours that damage teams: unclear roles, poor communication, and toxic high performers who get a pass because of their output. They dig into negativity bias (80% of our thoughts are naturally negative), why busyness can become addictive, and practical ways to build healthier boundaries with work and technology. If you've ever felt overworked, unheard, or stuck in the wrong environment — this one's for you.

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It's 2026! We are BACK and so bloody excited to kick off this year with one of my favourite conversations from the end of last year. Quite simply, this conversation and connection has changed my life.

About this episode
Dr. Rami Kaminski, psychiatrist and author of "The Gift of Not Belonging," explores why some people are wired as "otherverts" - individuals who cannot be shaped by group identity. This conversation reveals how otherness isn't a flaw but a genuine gift, offering insights into emotional freedom, empathy, and what happens when we stop trying to fit into systems never built for us.

Links

• https://www.othernessinstitute.com/the-gift-of-not-belonging/
• Take the Test

3 Key Takeaways
We're all born as non-belongers - Babies have no sense of nationality, religion, or group identity; cultural conditioning teaches us what to belong to, not just that we should belong.

True empathy requires eliminating yourself. Real empathy isn't putting yourself in someone's shoes, but temporarily ceasing to exist with your preconceived notions to truly see through another's eyes.

The dark side of belonging is tribalism - While community has benefits, the need for group identity enables tribalism, silent majorities, and historical atrocities when people outsource their morals to the group.

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Dr Rami Kaminski - Guest

Serdar Mele - Editor

Stef Murphy - Producer

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In this episode of This is HCD, Gerry Scullion is joined (again!) by service design pioneer Marc Stickdorn – recorded right after they both spoke at SD in Gov in Edinburgh.

We walk (literally) through the current state of service design, why so many teams feel stuck, and how journey management can help organisations move beyond one-off projects to achieve truly systemic change.

We talk about:

• How to scale service design beyond a single team and embed it organisation-wide
• Journey management, service architecture and “journey ops” – and why naming really matters
• Building scaffolding for long-term impact (using the Dublin City Council work as an example)
• How to speak the language of leadership and show measurable ROI
• Why stealth projects can be your best way to build credibility
• The role of AI and tooling – where it helps, and where it’s genuinely dangerous
• Why leaders can’t outsource understanding to an algorithm

If you’re trying to move service design from nice decks to real organisational change – in public services or the private sector – this episode is for you.

🔗 Links mentioned

– Marc’s upcoming book & community: https://www.thisisjourneymanagement.com

– Smaply blog & resources: https://www.smaply.com

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Gerry Scullion - Host

Marc Stickdorn - Guest