We interview Steve Pierson and Mariah Craven of the progressive activist group Swing Left and hosts of the grassroots power podcast How We Win, about how Dems can prepare for 2020 – and win with Swing Left's Super State Strategy. We discuss whether the Dems can take the House and the Senate, how best to beat Trump, and how to bridge divides within the Democratic party. We also break down the obstacles beyond Trump – voter suppression, gerrymandering, and an obstructionist GOP that may simply not concede.