Stefan tries to rise Whataboutism out of the mud as a legitimate argumentative strategy while making clear its limits.

MT & J talk the Riyadh comedy fest and more..so much more!

Get Malcolm's Book here: https://www.amazon.com.mx/Whats-Left-Through-Planetary-Crisis/dp/0316577413

Get Andrew's book here: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/K/bo245100866.html

In What's Left , Malcolm Harris cuts through the noise and gets real about our remaining options for saving the world. Just as humans have caused climate change, we hold the power to avert a climate apocalypse, but that will only happen through collective political action. Harris outlines the three strategies--progressive, socialist, and revolutionary--that have any chance of succeeding, while also revealing that none of them can succeed on their own.

What's Left shows how we must combine them into a single pathway: a meta-strategy, one that will ensure we can move forward together rather than squabbling over potential solutions while the world burns.

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We talk a little everything on this one, MLB, NFL and um..BUTT STUFF! LOL Skip to about 2 hours in for the insanity. 

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