This Was The Scene Podcast

Jon Cheese toured from 2002-2012 working for all kinds of bands as a tour manager/Merch guy. Piebald, cave in, my chemical romance, Apollo Sunshine, Limbeck, The Honorary Title, Meg & Dia, Big D & the Kids Table, Streetlight Manifesto, and The National. He did a weird T-Pain tour... and every Warped Tour from 2002-2011 (02/03 with Doghouse records and 04-11 with Side One Dummy Records.

I got him on the phone and here's what we talked about:

• Why it's ok to not like some of the older punk bands
• The origins of the name Jon Cheese
• Possibly running Cave-in's Merch
• Finally remembering the name Aaron Kraft from many episodes ago
• My arch nemesis from high school
• The Morris County youth crew
• Meeting Piebald
• The My Chemical Romance story (this is fucking amazing)
• Jesse from Motion City Soundtrack's involvement in Jon's marriage
• Selling real estate to Fat Mike and other punk rock folks
• And a ton more

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WELCOME TO EPISODE #60

Hopeless Records was founded in 1994 by Louis Posen. The label's artists are generally considered to fall under the genres of punk rock, pop punk, post-hardcore, and alternative rock, but some also include elements of heavy metal. Some of their most well-known artists include All Time Low, Sum 41, Neck Deep, Avenged Sevenfold, Thrice, Yellowcard...

Thanks to Denis 88 I was able to get Louis on the phone and this is what we talked about...

• Heckle
• Filming videos for NOFX and Guttermouth
• Figuring out how to put out a record
• What was Guttermouth like
• The Sampler CDs
• What they did to stand out in the industry
• Davey Tiltwheel
• Napster coming into the picture
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by my animation company drive80.com. I do explainer animations, logo animations, and Instagram animations. Feel free to reach out to me if you need videos that don't suck ass.

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

Folly is a band from Sussex, New Jersey. Their music is a mix of hardcore, metal, punk, and ska. The band's final lineup included Arben Colaku on bass, Geoff Towle on guitar, Anthony Wille on drums, Agim Colaku on guitar, and Jon Tummillo on vocals.

They chose the name Folly due to its implications that a "costly undertaking having an absurd or ruinous outcome" is, in fact, the complete metaphor of the band and its members. In their words, "Folly is exactly what we are, not just as a band of fools who play ridiculously entwined and exploited musical genres, but as people who are continually kicked while they are down, while stubbornly and resiliently grinning in the face of mainstream adversity."

I got Jon on the phone and this is what we talked about:

• Jared from Face First / Houston Calls
• Unleashing the fury at shows
• His Dad being the music teacher at my high school (JTHS)
• His Brothers being in Right Turn Eddie
• Sussex County venues
• Jim Slim and the Midget Tossers
• Finding his voice as a singer
• Triple Crown Records
• The scene changing in the early 2000s
• Playing with no shoes on
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by my animation company drive80.com. I do explainer animations, logo animations, and Instagram animations. Feel free to reach out to me if you need videos that don't suck ass.

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

The Overdrives were a punk band from Nazareth, PA. They played with such as Grieving Eucalyptus, Weston, Digger, and other PA bands. I got Josh on the phone and this is what we talked about:

• Nazareth, PA
• Their current angel fire website
• The beauty of tablature
• Grieving Eucalyptus
• The Feedmill practice space
• Josh Bigwig giving him a copy of Unmerry Melodies
• Getting on the Chuck Weston's last show
• The Serial Killer Comp
• accidentally drinking his own piss
• Joining Bigwig and playing his first show within hours of being asked
• Witnessing what it was like to play in Canada as a member of Bigwig
• Touring with the Bosstones
• The real reason he left the band
• The Matt Gray falling asleep story
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by my animation company drive80.com. I do explainer animations, logo animations, and Instagram animations. Feel free to reach out to me if you need videos that don't suck ass.

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

Alex Sarti is a show promoting, Roadie extraordinairing, Lorde managing, SOB. I met him in 1998 when he was putting on shows in Binghamton, NY and I thought it would be awesome to geek out with him about the late 90s scene. Annnnd, here's what we talked about:

• Managing the artist Lorde
• The new NOFX book
• The Victory Records Incompatible and Go Kart Records Double Exposure Comps
• Columbia House
• Booking shows in Binghamton
• Introducing Ben from Armor for Sleep to his wife
• The Movie Life story
• Buddyhead
• Midtown flipping their van
• iSurrender Records release of Lanemeyer's vinyl
• Fallout Boy
• Lifetime putting their record out on Decaydance
• Matt Red Leader writing comic books
• Talking shit about Midtown
• Brian Fallon
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by Neshaminy Creek Brewing Company, bringing the punk rock ruckus to liquid form! Brewing up lip smackin, palate crackin IPAs and sours, robust dark beers, and a healthy mix of classic easy drinkers. Neshaminy Creek beers are available in NJ, PA, DE, and MD. Neshaminy Creek will celebrate their 7th Anniversary on Saturday, June 8th with a free show at their main brewing facility and taproom in Croydon, PA, featuring: Dave Hause, Modern Life Is War, School Drugs, and Fire In The Radio.

Website - neshaminycreekbrewing.com

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

Sicko was an American rock group from Seattle, Washington, formed in 1991. Exceptionally, the three-piece pop-punk group maintained a constant membership for every recording as a band. This line-up was Denny Bartlett (guitar, bass, vocals), Ean Hernandez (guitar, bass, vocals), and Josh Rubin (drums, brother of Aaron Rubin from The Mr. T Experience). Sicko released four full-length albums and five 7" eps as well as a retrospective CD with unreleased and rare material, a released demo and a tour video. They also appeared on approximately fourteen compilations on labels such as Lookout! Records and Liberation Records. They once exchanged covers with Cub. The vast majority of their recorded output was recorded by Kurt Bloch of The Fastbacks and released on Seattle-based punk label eMpTy Records. One EP and the retrospective CD were released on Mutant Pop Records. Three Sicko songs were featured on the Xbox game Project Gotham Racing 2 alongside artists like The Flaming Lips and Princess Superstar.

• Alan Rappaport being the #1 fan
• His Misfits T-shirt
• Empty Records
• Who did their album artwork
• Having their stuff released digitally on Red Scare Records
• Switching instruments during their set
• The Reunion show they played recently
• Frank from the Mr. T Experience
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by Neshaminy Creek Brewing Company, bringing the punk rock ruckus to liquid form! Brewing up lip smackin, palate crackin IPAs and sours, robust dark beers, and a healthy mix of classic easy drinkers. Neshaminy Creek beers are available in NJ, PA, DE, and MD. Neshaminy Creek will celebrate their 7th Anniversary on Saturday, June 8th with a free show at their main brewing facility and taproom in Croydon, PA, featuring: Dave Hause, Modern Life Is War, School Drugs, and Fire In The Radio.

Website - neshaminycreekbrewing.com

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

The Wonder Year's sound was a fast-paced tone of melodic energy that celebrated the feelings of being young and dumb. Lead by Singer Singer Writer Brian Moss, AKA B Moss, the band started its journey in California's Bay Area and lasted until 2000(ish).

I got Brian on the phone and this is what we talked about:

• Teaching the youth of today
• Touring with the Lawrence Arms
• Being friends with Jesse from Op Ivy's little sister
• Eviction Parties
• The digital era we are in
• Their drummer Caitlin being the shit
• The Nile in Mesa
• Drinking floaters at parties
• And a ton more

Check out his bands after The Wunder Years, The Ghost, Hanalei, and Great Apes.

On Friday, August 16, 2019, check out the show with Humble Beginnings, digger, Jettison, Avery at Asbury Park Brewery in Asbury Park, NJ. This is presented by Aftermath Collective.

Feel free to email me with suggestions or praise.

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

Plan A Project were a punk band from Northern New Jersey. Started in 1995 with Bassist/ Vocalist Danny DeSimoni, Guitarist/ Vocalist Dennis DeGraw and Drummer Kieth Wyland. Possessing an uncanny amount of energy, desire, and spirit that demanded respect. In the duration, 3 EPs were released and 2 studio albums (Go Kart records) with drummers Dennis Zyla, Tim Caspare and Paulie Yaremko.

Dennis heard of the podcast from a buddy of his and emailed me to catch up. From there I said, let's chat in an interview and he said yes.

• Stealing wood from around town to build a halfpipe
• Going to shows to learn how to play guitar
• The back cover of Dookie
• Coming up with the band name on the fly to get on a show
• The Westwood garage
• Creating their own merch
• Against All Authority
• What the NYC scene was like
• Sleeping in a walk-in freezers
• GoKart Records
• The Tour with the Buzzcocks
• And a ton more

I mentioned this week that there was a surprise and here it is. while setting up this interview, Dennis sent me a song and said this "When we decided to call it a day we went in and made sure we recorded something as we envisioned., something we wish made it out there sooner rather than never. With that, the lyrics pretty much sum up what being a member of plan A was about. Thought I'd share it as this song has never been heard outside of my very close friends ."

I immediately replied and said that he should get this on Bandcamp. Luckily, he had more songs and decided that I was a genius, took my advice and now these unreleased songs are available online.

Just go to - Planaproject.bandcamp.com

Check out his art here - https://www.dennisdegraw.com/

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

88 Fingers Louie is an American band from Chicago which was formed in 1993. They played a style of hardcore punk, melodic hardcore, and punk rock. After disbanding in 1999, guitarist Dan Wleklinski and bassist Joe Principe formed the well-known punk rock band Rise Against. The band reunited in 2009 and has continued playing shows in Chicago, Canada, Belgium, Las Vegas, and Asbury Park. The band held a 20th-anniversary show in 2013. The name comes from a Flintstones gangster who sells dodgy pianos.

Fun fact, Denis is a fan of the podcast. Well, I mean he said he liked a few episodes so I'm going to take that as he has the logo tattooed on his chest now.

I asked him if he'd like to talk about the days of 88 and how cool Chicago is and he said

• The Ballet
• Where did the video for "I've Won" go?
• How he found this podcast
• The Rod Stewart curse
• The Josh Humble Fireside Story
• Michael Gaughan
• The "I've Won" video story
• Later 88 songs making their way onto the first Rise Against Album
• And a ton more

This week's episode is sponsored by Neshaminy Creek Brewing Company, bringing the punk rock ruckus to liquid form! Brewing up lip smackin, palate crackin IPAs and sours, robust dark beers, and a healthy mix of classic easy drinkers. Neshaminy Creek beers are available in NJ, PA, DE, and MD. Neshaminy Creek will celebrate their 7th Anniversary on Saturday, June 8th with a free show at their main brewing facility and taproom in Croydon, PA, featuring: Dave Hause, Modern Life Is War, School Drugs, and Fire In The Radio.

Website - neshaminycreekbrewing.com

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.

Discount was an American punk rock band that formed in Vero Beach, Florida, in 1995 and disbanded in 2000. Before disbanding, the group's members relocated to Gainesville, Florida, where they performed their last show in August 2000. They released three full-length albums, several EPs, and two b-side collections. Members have gone on to form The Dead Weather, The Kills, The Kitchen, Black Cougar Shock Unit, Unitas, The Routineers, The Draft, Laserhead, Stolen Parts, and Monikers.

• Living with Chris from Hot Water Music
• Almost killing my friends' wives at a Sunny Day Show
• Using Dialer devices to make free phone calls on the road
• Knowing Alison because she was his neighbor
• Touring while they were in High School
• Touring with Less than Jake and Hot Water Music
• Half Fiction
• Doing a long ass tour for the break-up
• Allison's new band The Kills
• And a ton more

Here is a link to Ryan's new endeavor - northernelectriclighting.com

This episode is sponsored by Creep Records the best record store in Philadelphia. You can order online at creeprecords.com for a 5 dollar flat rate shipping fee on as many records that you buy. They also have a smoke shop where you can buy fun shaped glass pipes to enjoy all of that tobacco that you buy on the streets. Fun Fact, you can listen to my interview with Arik who owns Creep. Just scroll down to Episode 37.

Check out the new merch on the thiswasthescene.com

Check out my new book "How To Get Divorced. A Guide for people currently going through some shit." You can download a free copy at YourDailyBred.com.

If you'd like to support the podcast you can donate as little as $1 a month through Patreon by going to thiswasthescene.com and click on the button at the top of the page that says Click HERE FOR BONUS MATERIAL. As a Patron, you get access to bonus material that regular podcast subscribers do not. OR you can do a one-time donation by clicking the DONATE button.