"This Won't Last" with Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg podcast

September 08, 2024 Is Founder Mode Insightful? Plus AI Valuations, Unrealized Gains Tax, and Putin's Telegram

This is the debut episode of This Won’t Last, a monthly conversation between Logan Bartlett of Redpoint, Keith Rabois at Khosla Ventures, Kevin Ryan at Alleycorp, and Zach Weinberg, biotech founder (Curie.Bio) and investor. This episode covers Founder Mode, the state of VC fundraising, the potential for an unrealized gains tax, and Russia’s influence in Telegram.

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Links:

Keith’s Recs:

High Output Management by Andy Grove

Keith Rabois’ lecture notes from 2013: "How to Operate" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fQHLK1aIBs

Tesla versus Edison: The Last Days of Night: A Novel by Graham Moore

Disruptive Innovation by Clayton M. Christensen

The Success Equation: Untangling Skill and Luck in Business, Sports, and Investing by Michael J. Mauboussin

Kevin’s Recs:

Dark Wire by Joseph Cox

Logan’s Recs:

On railroads: Engines That Move Markets by Alistair Nairn

Wired: “The Kremlin has entered your chat”

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(02:39) Kevin comes back from Burning Man

(04:20) Paul Graham’s Founder Mode

(05:45) Founder mode intuitive for Keith, Pierre Lamond anecdote

(07:00) Keith’s response to kernel of Founder Mode, Andy Grove High Output Management

(08:28) What’s unique about Founder Mode?

(09:13) Manager vs. Founder

(12:57) Founder moral authority

(15:00) Investing in founder driven CEOs

(18:47) State of venture markets

(21:15) Driverless car future

(26:25) Revenue quality in AI valuations

(33:00) New technology disruptive or helpful for incumbents

(35:40) AI in Biotech

(38:44) AI impacting fund AUM

(42:30) AI as the transistor

(43:25) Hurdle to return AI CapEx

(44:30) Unrealized Capital Gains Tax

(47:27) Sweden’s tax vs Norway and corporation tax rates

(54:50) Medicare & Social Security, beneficial tax policies

(1:00:45) Misleading life expectancy stats

(1:02:15) Lina Khan, Antitrust effect on tech industry

(1:10:20) Perplexity shocking Google

(1:12:30) Pavel Durov and Russia’s Influence in Telegram

(1:16:45) Not using TikTok and Telegram, risk in capital in Chinese companies

(1:22:25) Closing

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