Real Life Theology Podcast

Thrive in your Calling: Multiplying Disciples without Burning out (feat. Christian Ray Flores & Deb de Flores)


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Today’s episode will help us thrive in our calling by learning from personal experiences on understanding burnout, maintaining health, and multiplying our unique gifts without burning out.

In the episode titled "Thrive in your Calling: Multiplying Disciples without Burning Out," the speaker, Christian, begins by expressing gratitude for participating in the workshop, emphasizing its purpose is to help attendees orient themselves towards where they want to go. He introduces his family and their extensive experience leading churches and doing missionary work around the world. 

Christian shares his unique and tumultuous life story, detailing how his early life as a refugee and his diverse experiences across various countries shaped him. He describes significant hardships, such as being in a concentration camp, experiencing poverty, and undergoing multiple relocations. Despite these challenges, he pursued education in economics and a successful career in music, eventually becoming a pop star. However, at the height of his success, he faced clinical depression, which led him to Christianity. His conversion prompted a dramatic career change to ministry work, where he found new purpose and fulfillment. He later experienced a midlife crisis which forced him to recalibrate and reassess various aspects of his life, leading to a significant revival in his professional and personal life.

The episode transitions to his wife, Deb, who shares her perspective on their life in Russia, dealing with her health issues exacerbated by the climate, and experiencing burnout. She emphasizes the importance of self-care and spiritual health, sharing practical steps she took to manage her wellbeing and avoid burnout. Deb outlines the stages of burnout, explaining the emotional and physical symptoms of each phase, and underscores the importance of rest, margin time, and maintaining a healthy routine.

Christian then introduces three key shifts for thriving in one's calling without burning out. The first shift involves moving from survival mode to a state of clarity, creativity, and resilience, emphasizing the need to switch from fear-based living to one fueled by God's love and power. He illustrates this point using the relationship between Paul and Timothy, highlighting the importance of recognizing and nurturing one's specific gifts.

The second shift focuses on identifying one's unique strengths and turning them into undeniable authority. Christian stresses that many ministry leaders lose their individuality by conforming to general roles, and he uses the parable of the talents to illustrate the necessity of multiplying one's gifts rather than burying them. He warns against rationalizations and excuses, urging leaders to take responsibility for their unique contributions.

The final shift is to multiply one's gifts before multiplying disciples. He explains that effective discipleship stems from leaders who have developed and scaled their unique gifts. This involves creating systems and frameworks that allow their influence to be replicated and extended beyond their immediate reach. He underscores the potential for modern technology to vastly expand one's impact.

The episode includes a testimonial from Greg, a ministry leader who experienced significant personal and professional transformation through Christian's coaching program. Greg highlights the positive changes in his marriage and ministry, attributing them to the reframing and intentionality fostered by the program.

Christian concludes by offering further resources and support for those interested in deeper involvement, including a coaching cohort and an intensive workshop aimed at providing practical steps for implementing the discussed shifts. He encourages attendees to invest in their personal development to sustain their calling and avoid burnout.

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