Thriving Thyroid with Shannon Hansen - Functional Nutrition for better women's hormones using food as medicine.

Coach Jon is a weight loss coach and emotional eating expert who has lost 100lbs. From nanotechnology researcher, to Navy marine engineer, to globetrotting nomad, Coach Jon spent most of his life running from his true calling, until one question changed his life. Now he's on a mission to help others lose weight for good and leave BS diets in the rearview mirror.

With Freedom Nutrition Coaching he marries the Science of Metabolism with the Psychology of Behavior Change and the Compassion of Human Connection to create life-changing transformations with his clients.

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

SHOW NOTES AT 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

Helping women over 50, specializing in those over 60, to age better and not succumb to old person syndrome. Aging happens but it shouldn't ruin your life and disease and disability are not natural effects of getting older. My making things simple and uncomplicating the science Greg provides different ways to approach the aging issue because no two people are exactly alike. She does not believe in deprivation--life should be delicious in all areas.

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We discuss: 

About thyroid drugs: How did you arrive at the meds that are right for you?

Did you struggle to get a doc to listen to you? What were the symptoms that led you to believe that dose or type of drug wasn't working?

On weight loss: Is it true that our metabolism slows down as we age?

What's the #1 killer of weight loss efforts as we age?

How much of a role does exercise play?

Is it possible to live without cravings?

SHOW NOTES AT 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

SHOW NOTES AT 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors.

Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

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Welcome back to episode 90, we are gonna be talking about losing weight and we're gonna be starting with breakfast. Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hanson, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more. After that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the Hanon method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast,

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Right? You guys welcome back. So I'm back. So , it's been a while. I took a vacation with my family to Mexico and it was beautiful and amazing and everything I wanted and more, and it was actually really, really good timing for me. I've been feeling a lot of feelings lately. Some of this I know as postpartum my emotions around six months start to go a little, a little wonky, and you're kind of settling in to the new routine. And I found for myself, it's like all of the adrenaline starts to kind of wear off and things start to settle in. People are still helpful, but not as helpful as maybe they once were when you first had a brand new baby and life can just start to like it changes. I, I don't wanna be even wanna say it's overwhelming because it's not overwhelming.

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It just changes anyways. And then there's been a few things in my business that I'm like, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to handle this. I don't know the direction or the path that I need to be going. And I've really been praying for inspiration and guidance. And I know that God Heley father does not always just hit you over the head with this like profound answer. Usually it's like you, you have to take action and move forward and then begin to discover, Hey, this is, this is a really good choice. Or, Hey, this isn't a good choice. And I I've had an experience lately and I'm not gonna go into the details that other people made choices that affected my business and I've been holding onto some resentment, some hurt, some anger, some frustration. And so anyways, long story short, going to Mexico was perfect and relaxing and allowed me to kind of clear my head and what I think has helped me move forward in a more positive direction and in a way that is also really, really supportive to myself to my family.

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And I think is, is also going to really benefit you guys long term . So I'm not ready to disclose all of the details yet, but the one thing I wanna tell you guys, especially you podcast listeners, we are going to start doing, I don't know, units series segments, where I'm talking about the same topic, but talking about it in a lot of different ways. Maybe diving a little bit deeper into things. It's not gonna be like a part one part two. Maybe some of it will be , but for summer there, this is happening both in the membership coaching program and also inside the Hanon method where people are like, I've lost, you know, 20 pounds, I've lost 30 pounds. I'm starting to feel good, but I've kind of hit this plateau, which is what I've maybe hit in the past. And I just can't overcome this plateau, or I always get to this point and then something happens and I start gaining weight again or whatever.

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And so, and summertime, I think anytime we are in bathing suits or in less clothing, it brings up a lot of feelings and insecurities about our body. And it just kind of brings it to the forefront because we can't hide behind big baggy sweatshirts and sweatpants and sweaters and all the things during, during fall and winter. And it was really interesting today. One of the speakers she spoke about how at church, we, this was at church, she was speaking about how we keep our mind so busy and distracted. And she went into when, you know, when she sits down or whatever it is when she sits down and tries to relax. She's thinking about this exercise routine that she has embarked upon, but it's not really working and she's not feeling comfortable in her body. And you know, when somebody gives her a compliment about, oh, Hey, you look really beautiful.

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She can't accept that compliment because she doesn't feel that way about herself. And these are all of the things. And all of the thoughts that I've been thinking about. Number one for myself, be again, being postpartum. Like my hypothyroidism, my symptoms have flared back up after being in remission for five years. so that's not super fun and that's been very emotional for me and then going to Mexico, being in a bathing suit. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, things are not the way that they should be. And then couple that with the stress of running a business and all of these different things, I started out heavier than what I wanted to be because of the stress of my business and because of all of these external things. And then as soon as I was like, Hey, okay, I'm gonna, you know, get focused again.

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I'm gonna start eating better. I'm gonna start putting myself on a routine and a regimen to help manage my stress so that my weight goes down. I was pregnant. So a lot of this stuff is not only for you guys as a listener, but also for myself and also for the members that we're working with in inside the membership or in the Hanson method or so on and so forth. Okay. So what I have decided to do, like I said, is we're gonna be talking about weight, weight management, overcoming plateaus, helping you guys to understand maybe some of the steps that you need to take. Now, if you are on Instagram, head over to the thriving thyroid podcast and send me a message, especially in real time, as you guys are listening to this, because I want to hear from you guys where you're at in your journey, we have thousands upon thousands of downloads.

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And I don't know your story. , I don't know your journey when it comes to thyroid. I don't know if a majority of my listeners are diagnosed or undiagnosed or, you know, sometimes, sometimes it's nice to get a little bit of feedback and share a little bit of your story with me and let me know that you are a podcast listener, so I can start to keep track of some of these things. All right. So , let's dive into breakfast. So in some of the emails or in the messages, you can, you can tell me if you're a breakfast eater or if you eat healthy breakfast, or maybe you're just grabbing coffee for breakfast. And, and really in this episode, I want you guys to feel inspired with good breakfast as we will break this down a little bit more in terms of why it's important to have a good breakfast.

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Okay. And if you don't have time, hopefully we will give you some good, easy, healthy grab and go options in the morning because who doesn't run short on time in the morning. I know, I think I plan and prepare and then I'm like, oh yeah, okay. Four kids now. And there's always something , somebody's gotta go to the bathroom. Someone can't find a shoe. Someone breaks a glass, someone. I mean, it's always something, right? So maybe you're ready to ditch the desserts. And I say desserts, but really, I mean the pastries and the things that taste super yummy, but maybe aren't supportive to our thyroid and balancing our hormones, our blood sugar, all of that. So don't worry. We've got you covered in this episode. So there are three must eat breakfast items. And again, this is gonna be sometimes when we have thyroid issues, we have a lot of food sensitivities or imbalances that way.

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And I want you to know that food sensitivities are a sign of dysfunction. We become sensitive to food. When other things in our body isn't working, we should be able to eat eggs, right? We're gonna be talking about eggs. we should be able to eat eggs. No problem. But if your body is in a state of disease, they may be difficult for you to, to eat. All right. So here we go. Let's talk about this. We need to start our mornings off with a good amount of protein in the morning, because this is gonna help with sugar management. It's gonna help with metabolism and it's gonna help with the weight loss. This is because protein helps you feel full or longer and uses up a bunch of calories to absorb and metabolize the food. So you are using energy to break down the food.

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So I'm gonna show you how to get the protein and as well as some veggies and some healthy fats for your soon to be favorite new go-to breakfast. So breakfast is let's start with eggs. So eggs are always a good idea or good thing to eat. Again, unless you have a food sensitivity and I'm happy to maybe chat with you a little bit more one on one on what to do about that and some ideas. So what I'm not talking about here is process egg whites in a carton. Okay. I am talking about the whole egg. So egg whites are mostly protein while the yolks are really a nutrient powerhouse. And I know in baby led weaning and things like that, they actually start feeding babies, egg yolks pretty early on because of the nutritional benefit of, of the yolk.

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They'll mix it with, you know, either formula or breast milk or whatever to break it down and then feed the baby. Okay. so those egg yolks contain vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, and healthy fats, eggs have been shown to keep you fuller longer and help stabilize blood sugar and insulin levels. Now, if you've been around for a while, you guys know the importance of balancing out those insulin levels to help stabilize other hormones inside the body. So not to mention eggs are super easy to boil a whole bunch of them and keep them in the fridge and grab them and go for breakfast, which you are short on time now, I know this isn't breakfast related, but when we were in Mexico, we were having kind of a difficult time in this area, finding at, at the store we went to, I don't know, my hu.

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I sent my husband and he was struggling to find chicken or meat or something for the week. And he ended up buying, I think, like 18 eggs or something like that. Maybe a little more. I think it was half a dozen. Maybe it was like two. And I don't know, anyways, that's not, not the point, but what we did is yes, we had them for breakfast, but I also boiled them up and we put them on our salad for lunch one day, so that we had a little bit of protein because just lettuce and tomato. And what else do we put on there? Like carrots and cucumbers. Like, that's not gonna keep you full for a really long time. So they can be super easy to add it to salads or other things like that to help give you that extra protein.

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So here's that you guys need to know the cholesterol in the eggs is not associated with an increased risk of heart disease or anything like that. So, one thing that you need to consider is try to prevent cooking the yolks at a high temperature, because that can cause some of the cholesterol in the eggs to be to oxidize. And the oxidized cholesterol is the heart unhealthy stuff. Okay. So oxidation bad you know, cook at a lower temperature for a little bit longer and you avoid that. And that's the same thing for using certain types of oils and things like that. Okay. All right. Number two. Let's keep plugging away here. number two is net N is nuts and seeds. So nuts and seeds contain protein, healthy fats, vitamins minerals, and fiber nuts and or seeds is also a great thing to add or contribute to your breakfast.

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You won't be a, you won't be fooled by candied nuts, right? Sweetened nets and butters or chia cereals with added sugars. I want you to know that I'm talking about real whole unsweetened food here. nuts and seeds are the ultimate fast food when you are running late in the morning. So you can cry, grab a small handful of almonds, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, as you're running out the door and you can munch on them while you are commuting. So not to mention how easy it is to add that spoonful of Nu butter or seed butter into your morning breakfast smoothies. We do smoothies all the time and I will add in pumpkin seeds, cuz they're super high in protein to help get me, give me that little boost of extra proteins along with the healthy fats. So here's another hint for you guys.

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If you like creamy lattes in the morning, try adding, try making one with Nu or seed butter. Just add in your, add your regular hot tea and a tablespoon or two of that creamy Nu or seed butter into your blender and mix it or blend it until it is nice. And Froy my husband loves banana shakes in the morning with some vanilla protein and he adds in peanut butter. He can do things like that as well. All right. Number three, veggies. Yes. You already know you should be getting protein at every meal, including breakfast, but this is, but this also applies to veggies. Okay. You should be adding veggies to every meal because of the fiber, right? Veggies are powerhouse of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, phytochemicals, fiber, and water. And you can't go wrong with adding them all the time. if you don't already do so you should definitely try them with breakfast.

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Going back to the eggs, I have served eggs over like an arugula salad or not a arugula salad or I've, you know, mixed in, what am I trying to say? Like a breakfast ke in the morning, like a restless ke or a Forta or something like that, where you're able to add in some of those greens, maybe some bell peppers, maybe some onions mushrooms and the other really cool thing about doing something like that or a breakfast burrito is you can make big batches of that and keep it in your fridge and warm them up throughout the week so that you're getting in those veggies early in the week. Okay. So you may not feel comfortable about maybe roasting vegetable vegetables and eating those for breakfast, especially here in America. I know we have listeners all over the country or all over the world, but in other countries it is, they don't eat pastries.

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They don't eat donuts. the way we do. They they're going to eat more of a Hardy well-balanced breakfast that may include more veggies or roasted veggies. And that was something for me that I had to transition into. I'll give you an example. So it was really weird for me to think about or hear that people would eat their leftovers from dinner for breakfast. I was like, wait, what? Like you don't eat breakfast food. That was kind of a, an interesting thing. And I remember a, I don't know if it was a coach or a nutritionist many, many years ago was talking about how that's, what they did. And it was a way for them to break the blood sugar imbalances. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And thinking about it. I, so again, when we were in Mexico, we typically, what we did is we ate breakfast and lunch at the place that we were staying.

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We stayed at an Airbnb and then we would go for dinner somewhere. And the first night we were there, we ate at the resort restaurant and I ordered a ribeye steak and it came with, oh my gosh, the most delicious veggies ever. They were perfectly seasoned. They were heirloom carrots. So they were like the purple and the yellow and the orange. And they were beautiful and they had peppers and I didn't eat the whole ribeye. So I saved the rib. I and I, there were plenty of veggies and things like that. So I actually ended up the next day, reheating the steak. I had that with some eggs cuz it wasn't very much. And I had like an egg and then I had the veggies with it and I was like, this is the best thing ever. I was actually really bummed that my kids ate all of the salsa because I wanted to have some of that with my eggs anyways.

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So think of things like that, where you can incorporate those veggies into your breakfast. Okay. And just also know that you can break, break these breakfast rules and eat leftover veggies or other things for breakfast. Okay. So I'm gonna just quickly share a really simple egg and veggie omelet type deal. So you can use one teaspoon of coconut oil, two eggs, one or two, depending on how hungry you are and then a quarter of a cup of graded zucchini or mushrooms or peppers and some salt and pepper, or maybe some turmeric for anti-inflammatory add the coconut into your frying pan, coconut it on low, put it in a cast iron pan or you know, something along those lines and let that coconut oil melt. And in the meantime you can just grab that bowl, mix eggs up, add in your veggies of choice, your spices, and then pour the egg mixture into the frying pan and cook it up.

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You guys, or you can scramble it. Or if you are really good at making the omelets, you let it cook on that one side on a low temperature and then you can flip it over until it is no longer running you guys. It is super, super easy. Like I said, you can add in your leftover veggies from the night before, it should not be a big ordeal. And you guys know that I'm always a fan of smoothies, breakfast, movies, protein drinks, the morning, whatever you call them. It's a great way to get fruit and veggies and protein. First thing in the morning while you are running out the door. All right, you guys, I will see you on the next

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Coming from a background of natural health Dawn has owned multiple businesses as a doula, a childbirth educator, a homeopath and eventually an essential oil based network marketing business. Dawn spent 7 years building this business to multiple six-figures and reached the top 3% of leaders in just under 3 years.

Her favorite part was personal growth and she used this to help dozens of people build their network marketing businesses. At the end of 2019 her family took a big leap and moved to Guatemala from Canada.

They had been involved in bringing donated emergency vehicles and supplies to Guatemala for a number of years and at the same time grew their business there.

In the past couple of years she has been spending more time coaching and mentoring women to live fully into their purpose which often includes entrepreneurship and natural health in order to attain freedom.

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Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

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Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hanson, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more. After that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the a method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast.

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All right, you guys welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast. I have Dawn with me on the episode, something else anyways, I have with me today and we're about this upcoming summit that she has together and I have the opportunity to speak so welcome, Don.

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Thanks. So Shannon, I'm really excited to be able to chat a bit about summit and all that it has for women.

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Yeah. So give us a little bit of background as to who you're and why you decided to do this summit.

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Yeah, so my background really was a very natural background when I had children. So before that, probably not so much, but it's like the moment. Yeah. Kids suddenly you really, really wanna take care of them even better than you take care of yourself. And so with my first child I, I was really, you know, making all her food and looking at cloth diapers and just wanting to be really holistic with her. And that really opened up a whole new world for me. And from that point on I went into the journey of becoming a doula which originally just started with friends and then ended up being a whole business and teaching more natural style childbirth education classes, and then became a breastfeeding consultants for our area. And I really loved the fact that as I got to know women, I saw them also wanting to do things more naturally, which made me feel like I need to stay ahead of them.

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And so I went I went back to school and I became a homeopath as well, which just was just using natural medication to help families. And so I loved all of that and I loved the whole area, but what ended up happening is of course, as, as my kids got older and I got older, it changed kind of the direction of things because I started to see more in the end of mental health and women who are burning out and women who are struggling just to be moms and transitioning from, you know, a working mom to a, a stay at home mom or a stay at home mom to a going back to work mom and all of these areas. And so I guess what really propelled this summit is I did a summit in February that was specifically on mindset and mental health and making sure that you're living your best life and that it's okay to take care of yourself.

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And it's not a bad thing to decide to pull back and be more gentle and take time and, and all of that. And from that summit, I started to hear a lot from women on the health issues that they were dealing with, which often was coming out of stress and overwork and burnout, and even just life transition. And so I thought that is my next summit. I am definitely going to step into a summit. That's gonna talk about women's health physically, mentally, emotionally in a more natural sense. And so I started to put this one together and I'm really, really super excited about it because I feel like it has something for every woman up there.

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Well, and I, so several things, I was the exact same way. I clothed my first two kids. And then they came out with honest company and I was like, I'm going back to you once you kinda hit a certain point. I'm like the amount of laundry that I have. But that was honestly what started me in my journey as well, was my kids. Right. I was doing it for my kids. I wanted to understand these dyes and food and all of these wonderful things. And so I love that part. And then the second part is I feel like, and maybe you can speak into this a little bit. And, and maybe you haven't seen it. I don't know, but I feel like with COVID, a lot of the women have hit more burnout. Mm-Hmm right. They they've got a career, they've got a job, they have kids, they have a house they have, you know, and then they're locked inside their homes and, and all, all of that has just taken a toll on us mentally and emotionally and the stress and the burnout and all of that. So

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Yeah, you totally, totally agree with you. I think, especially like you had women who maybe were, stay at home moms, but suddenly had then stay at home children homeschooling whether they wanted it or not. Right. Or we had women who were working part from home and doing that you know, and just, it was just such a, a forced transition and really not much time to make that transition. Yeah. And I think even for the whole family, right? Like all of a sudden we saw kids having mental health issues, emotional issues that they didn't have pre and moms trying their best to cope with that. And you cannot be a psychologist and a mom, you know what I mean? Like we already have enough roles. Yeah. So I feel like it just, everything that could have come up came up and I think for women, we're still in the transition, we're still re not even, I wouldn't even say recovering. I feel like we're still in it because we're still too close. Right. Mm-hmm so we're still in it. And we're maybe only now recognizing I need some help. Like I need to actually look at me.

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Yes. Yeah. I, I love that. We're still, we're still in recovery and my husband and I joke we're like people have gotten stupid since COVID and ,

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And we we're speaking to ourselves, but it's like, some of that common sense I feel like has kind of gone away, but more so, because we're still in the stress, we're still in the fight or flight. There's still things every single week that is happening and changing and people are, you know, and at least for us, we're like, it's just important to have a lot of compassion because you don't know what someone is going through. And I have a really good friend right now that is going through some things. And I was like, I had no idea. I have no clue that this was happening behind the scenes. And she held it so well for so long. And so anyways, it's just been a reminder to me that it's important to have grace with people. So go ahead.

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I was gonna say too, the other thing too, I think that's happening. And part of the reason why I think this summit is in a really good space is as women are, are, you know, going through all this transition the last couple years, we're also on social media, way more, and we're taking in way more. And that also means that we're getting ads thrown at, thrown at us of what we should be doing, how we should be doing it. What's right. What's wrong. What the problem is with us, whether it's our, you know, our weight our, you know, our ability to do enough work, our ability to be successful, whatever it is, we've been so bombarded with that in a way that even if you, you know, were into social media in the past, you weren't locked in the way that you were in the last couple years.

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Like it was a form of escape too, but we were also getting all of this pressure to be, you know, the best person and, you know, the COVID 30, like we heard of all these things during that time. And I think that's part of what I would like to demystify as we go through this summit is, Hey, Hey, let's actually look at life in reality and what you can actually manage and what let's make it simple. You know, it's okay for you not to be a twig. It's okay for you not to starve yourself. It's okay for you not to be on an exercise and diet roller coaster. It's okay for you to have emotions and to have, you know, PMs and to you know, have gut issues. And these are all things that can happen now. How do we make you healthier in a way that doesn't drive you crazy or feel like something else is getting put on your plate. Yeah. And so I think that needs to happen to pull back from all that stuff we've been inundated with. And at the same time kind of give us a sense of relief. Like, oh my goodness, okay, I'm not doing it all wrong. and, and this is some of this is normal.

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I, I think that's so good for so many reasons. And I think that would kind of hit on what my first question was, is, and, and maybe you wanna add to this is who is this summit for? Like, as a listener? How do you know if this is for you or not?

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Yeah, I think like truly, honestly, I think it doesn't matter your age as far as being a woman or the time of life. Like we really are covering all the ages and stages. The only thing we're not covering is we're not covering pregnancy and fertility. So if that is like your absolute biggest passion, and that's all you wanna hear about, that's probably not for you then, but otherwise you're in. And I think the, the cool part about this is, you know, whether you are, have a, like a young family, no family you have that premenopausal stage you're in menopause. This will cover all of those things because it's really about areas to improve the life and the health overall of women. Not just like you specifically have to have these things in order to, to enjoy and participate in this. So I think that's the fun part about it is that there's so much information for everybody.

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And yet it's, I keep saying this, but it's not information that you're gonna feel like, oh my goodness, I've gotta do all these new things now. Like it's information that you're gonna be like, oh, I'm already doing some of this, but I didn't know this. So I actually could tweak what I'm doing. And I think that's the nice part is it's not about being overwhelmed. It's about just taking what you're doing now and probably even simplifying what you're doing now and giving you that sense of, oh, okay. I can kind of let go of some things and I don't really need to make massive changes. I just need to do what I'm doing now. A little more efficient, efficiently. Really.

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Yeah. Yeah. And we already recorded my episode and I know we kind of briefly talked about on that episode, how it it's the small adjustments, right. It's the small tweaks that make this big change. I think I've talked about this before on the podcast, the, the compound effect, or I know. Yeah. I feel like that was a really popular book a couple years ago. But, and, and now the atomic habits book is coming out and it's, it's about stacking your habits. It's about these small, simple things that just add up to this big lifestyle change. And then before, you know, it it's like, oh, this is my life is totally different than it was six months ago or a year ago.

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So. Right. Right.

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The only thing I was gonna say is the thing about it is if you're only making simple changes, right. It doesn't feel like like impossible to do. And I think every single speaker it's so nice, cuz they've all been you know, these things are great. This is something you might wanna add. This is something, if you didn't know about it now you know about it. Right. And you can kind of choose what you wanna do with that. And it might be something that, okay, this month I actually am gonna do these things cuz they're easy, but down the road, this is what I want my big picture to look like. And so it, it gives you both ends of that. And I think that's really, really awesome.

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Yeah. So what is this summit about? What are some of the topics that you're covering?

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Yeah, so it's five days. It's totally free. I just wanna say that before we keep going on. So people know it runs from June 20th to 24th and the registration will be open on the 6th of June. And it covers everything from thyroid to P C O S. So I would say those are the two more specific topics. Then it talks about like reducing our PMs naturally. We are talking about weight loss in all different ways. So things like how your gut health can help your metabolism and how weight loss is not always about the food you eat. And so it's, it's interesting. It's not just like here, here's your 1200 calorie diet and that's what you need to do. And then we're talking about exercise. We're talking about strength training for women and why it's important. Why is that valuable for us as women? Because a lot of women steer clear of anything that has to do with weights.

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We're talking about walking and the benefits of walking for your posture, for your confidence and for your health. So again, not often something that we talk about that just walking is an awesome option for you and it's way less stressful on your body. And we're also gonna talk lots about different types of nutrition. We have a great episode on sleep, which I know many women have requested. So I think that'll be awesome. And we have someone food psychology, which is gonna give some super valuable information. I think that'll be so much fun. So many people will be kind of blown away by some of the stuff that comes up there. And we're also gonna cover some meditation and mindfulness because we need to know it's okay to, to sit down and actually take the time to take care of us. And that's part of that. So

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Yes, and lots more too. I, I think that that's an area that I was just talking to my husband about last night. I was like, I need to meditate and be more mindful. And I was like, I have all of the resistance in the world towards this. And so that's currently the book that I'm reading is I think it's called how to train your mind, but it a big focus on that is the meditation. And I don't wanna do it, but I know I need to. So ,

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I think for a lot of women, like any of these areas, right? Whether it's exercise, whether it's eating, whether it's meditation and mindfulness or like you could, you choose often we're very all or nothing. Right? So it's like, we've gotta be all in. I'm gonna meditate half an hour a day and I'm gonna do it like sitting on my bed in complete silence and the children are gonna be tucked away somewhere else in privacy and you know, whatever it is, we have this thing in our mind of what the perfect scenario is. And if we're not gonna achieve that, we just don't even start. And I think for, for all of us, it's good to remember that, you know, if you wanna do two minutes and it's, you know, while you're in the shower, because the kids aren't quiet today and that's your only space to do that, then that's enough. Right. So sometimes it's just reminding ourselves too, that doing the little consistent actions is better than, you know, wanting the big action, but never really getting to it or getting to it once a week or whatever.

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Yeah. Yeah. So good. So what is the best way to take all of this information in and

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Yeah. Yeah. So summits are awesome because you get everything in one place in a short amount of time, but it can also be really super overwhelming. We probably have between three and five speakers a day so that, you know, they're 20 to 30 minutes each. So there's a couple things you can do. The one thing that I, I have been saying is anytime you go to any summit, know what you're going in, wanting to get. So if your area that you are really focused on is a specific area of your health, this is an area that you know, that you would like to improve, you know, soon then go in and take a look at what are the speakers today that are covering something on that specific thing and watch them only. So that way you're not feeling like I have to watch everything.

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And often again, what we do is if we didn't catch everybody the first day, we just don't show up the rest of the days. And that, that doesn't make any sense. It's better just to take in what you need right now and get what you want for today and then move on to the next day. So that's one way you can do it and just really be focused on what you want. And it's a great idea just to have a pen and paper so that when you are listening, you can quick draw it down. Like one thing, even from each speaker that really stands out to you. So if they say something that you think that I want to implement, just put one thing down, because again, you're not gonna do 15 things. Yeah. So you'll make it manageable. And then the other option too, is we always offer VIP passes, which is just lifetime access to all of the videos.

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So if you really feel like this is an area that's important to me, I wanna see it all. I wanna take it in. I wanna do it whenever I want. I wanna be able to go back to it, then you have an option to purchase a VIP pass. And if you don't wanna purchase that, then you can just watch them as they come out each day. And they're up for you for 24 hours for free. So you can do it either way, but you definitely wanna go in kind of knowing what is your most important area of focus so that you can feel like, okay, I got what I wanted to really know about in, in that process of the five days.

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I, I love that for a lot of reasons. One, because I'm the person, okay. Here's a really poor actually, it's a really good example, but it's embarrassing. so her birthday fell on the 29th, December 29th. And in February, there was not a 29 day. So I was like, do I take the picture before? Do I take it after? And I overthought it for way too long. And I ended up not taking the picture because I did not know when to do the stupid picture. And so it was the same thing and all, or nothing mindset where it has to be on the day at the right time. And now I missed on that opportunity forever because I didn't just take the stupid picture, like a day early, a day, late two days late, it doesn't matter. It was a picture, you know? Yeah. And that's embarrassing to admit, but I think a lot of women have, yeah, similar thoughts.

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If I can't do all of this, then I'm just gonna do none of it. It, and so we, we sign up, we get started, we have the best of intentions. Kids are crazy, summer's happening. And then it's like, I'm just not gonna do that. Or I just can't do all of them and therefore I'm not gonna benefit. And so I love that you said, know what you're going in for and focus on what you feel like you need the most, or invest the extra little bit of money and pay for the VIP pass and just go all in and, and watch it and commit to yourself that you're gonna watch it while you're folding laundry or, you know, doing dishes or something like that.

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Exactly. yeah. I think we're, we're, we're far too hard on ourselves and we do get into that perfection and mindset. And the reality is we, we are the ones who lose out. So mm-hmm , if you wanna take care of your health, pick an area and just focus on that and do what you can and then have grace for yourself and say, I, you know, I got something, I learned something today. I wouldn't have learned if I wasn't here. Yeah. Right. That's really all we need to do.

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Yes. Yeah. So good. Okay. So how do you get into natural health? Like if you are wanting to get started, how do you, how do you do that? Where do you start?

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Yeah, that's a big question. I mean, I think it depends again, like you and I, it was because of our kids. Right. So like, is it for you? Is it for your family? Who is it that you're wanting to make those changes for and why? So I think, again, you have to kinda ask yourself some questions before you figure that out. I know for, for our family, it was really the idea of, we wanted to have a really vibrant life, no matter how old we get. And I think the older I get, the more, I think that is I wanna be traveling. I wanna be, be able to go out and, and move around and have a walk and even see my great grandkids and be able to play with them. Right. I don't want to feel like I'm not mobile. I'm in a lot of pain.

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I feel like I can't do so many things that I would like to be doing as my life gets older. And at the same time, I want to have that for my children. I wanna be able to start that in them and let them enjoy that and then continue that in their own life because it's just normal for them. And so I think you, you need to decide what it is that you, you want it for. And then really, again, the Summit's a great place to start because you can literally hear some of the things that you can do naturally, whether it's reducing your toxins, whether it's the food that you choose to eat whether it's using essential oils, whether it's the meditation and mindfulness part of it, and you can then decide, okay, what, what is the thing I actually can do right now? What, what seems most valuable to me right now? What can I actually, you know, put in my life right now and then start there because there's lots of places you can go from there. And just finding one is a, a great place to, you know, kind of dip your toes in and, and get into it. And then doing something is always gonna be better than doing nothing. And again, if you try to be perfect and do every area, then nothing really happens well. So picking one is probably the easiest.

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Yes. Well, and I love that's. One of the things that I love about summits is there's a lot of different topics and you're exposed to a lot of different things and you can kind of pick and choose, you know, I remember going through phases where I was really interested in herbal medicine. And then I, I already had essential oils, but because I understood herbal herbs herbology and things like that, then I was like, oh, these, these, these essential oils are so cool. And then , and then, because I understood essential oils and I understood herbs, and I was like, well, duh, homeopathy. Right? Like, and started learning more about that. And, and it kind of built for me because little by little, so the, the benefit in my opinion of having a summit is you can, like you said, kind of start with where you're at and maybe you really resonate with a talk or a discussion or a person. And, and you're like, I want to learn more about that for me right now.

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So, yeah. Yeah. And some of it is even just nice when you see a certain speaker or you hear them and you think, you know, what, what they're saying really does resonate. Like you said, with me just following them, right. Mm-Hmm, signing up for their newsletter, following them on whatever social media and just really sticking with that for a little while so that you can have a little more comprehensive knowledge of, okay, this is what it's really about. This is what it means to do this. This is how it works in a life. This is how you fit it in, this is what I would be, you know, looking at. So you can, it it's. I just think it's great, cuz you can literally watch things now before you adapt and it makes it so much simpler to decide, yeah, this is for me or it's not.

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Yeah. I remember it kind of that kind of when I was struggling and I, I kind of felt like I was drowning in life and I was like, I don't even know. I don't even know what to do. I don't know what to focus on. I just, my anxiety was kind of taking over a lot of my life and I was overthinking a lot of things. I remember following someone on social media and it was something that I grew up doing. And so it was an easy adaptation, but she had talked about setting a timer and just getting as much done in that 10 minute timer or 15 minute timer. And I started reimplementing that because it was familiar, but I had kind of forgotten and I was like, this is amazing. And that sparked a lot more productivity in my life. And a lot more, I was able to reduce my overwhelm, which allowed me to progress in other areas because I had a clean space.

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And, and so sometimes it's just those, those little things that yeah, and that you learned by fol and I had followed this person for, I don't know, over a year. And then she shared that tip one day and I was like, yes, I am going to do that. So I think that's also really important. So let's transition to essential oils. What do you suggest for essential oils for those busy moms? How can we incorporate that into our life? I was looking for my roller bottles and I think somebody has run off cuz I normally keep 'em on my desk. but

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Yeah. And I think that's, that's the great part about essential oils, right? Is that kids are very compliant with them. It's not like trying to put medicine down their throat or, you know, make them do something that is laborous or that they have to stop for a long time to get it done. Like it's just, it's quick. It's easy. It smells good. I remember from the moment we introduced them, both my girls were like, I want my own, like it was like their own personal perfume kind of thing. Like they want their own. So it it's simple to it to adopt. I think that that's the nice part, but for, for moms specifically and, and women really, I think some of the nice things about essential oils is there's something that can help support you, whether it's your mood or your emotions and starting off your day.

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And that's part of like my morning routine really does use essential oils because I know if it's a busy day, I'm gonna need something to calm me down and something to help me feel motivated and stick it through. And so, you know, I have my favorites for that. And then if I know the kids have certain things, they have to do my happen to do online schooling. I know a couple of 'em have exams a certain day. So guess what, we're gonna put the diffuser out and we're gonna use some focus oils and we're gonna really make it so that they are able to sit there and get through it and not feel overwhelmed and upset as the questions are coming in. So I think for, for moms in general, it's just such a simple way to manage your household both emotionally and physically, when stuff comes up on a day to day basis, that you can really feel empowered. Like I'm, I'm capable of handling the little things so that stuff doesn't get out of control. And I think that's where most, most women can start is just what do you need most in your family, whether it's stuff for physical health or for emotions or mental or whatever else.

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Yeah. Well, and I, I love that you talk about that because, or at least the focus part, well, two different things. So for me, I love adaptive. That's like my favorite oil mm-hmm , it smells super good. It smells like perfume. I'm not putting on the toxic chemicals. Right. And because I am nursing, my body odors have changed a little bit and so , but I also have a little one smelling me all day, so I didn't want those chemicals around her obviously. And then the second part, when it comes to focus and using essential oils, there is a great way for people to help train their brain. So certain smells you'll have certain memories and things like that. Yep. And when my, so I really got into essential oils when my husband was going to school and I started giving him some focus, blends, and he would put it on his jacket and he would smell it before he studied.

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And then he would again, put it on his jacket and kind of while he's taking the test, like smelling his wrist and he, his test scores went up. So I, you know, I just, I have a deep left for all of those things and it's an easy way to incorporate those things in. And especially since I work with a lot of women with brain fog, mm-hmm, , this might be, you know, a great way to, to incorporate some of those in for, for you ladies that need to yeah. Do well with recalling things. So tell us what are some of your favorite essential oils?

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Yeah, so, absolutely anything that helps with hormones. I have to tell you is probably some of my go-tos, so things like stage calm. There's some blends that I like that are specific to a certain company. So I like whisper. Dium is one of my again, I don't like the smell actually of Jura unless it's mixed with other oils, but it does so well for just my mood and keeping me stable in certain times of the month. So I love that. And then other ones that are absolutely top of my list are sleep oils. So things like that are Woody like V and cedarwood Roman camomile. Any of those are probably again the top of my list, because if I'm not sleeping well, I'm not functioning in any capacity. Well, so I really do prioritize that. Yeah. And then the other thing I love is for is really for the kids.

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So there's just oils where I know everywhere we go, they're in my purse, like there's multiple lavenders, there's multiple tea trees. There's multiple peppermints because they help with aches and they help with, you know, just helping keep everybody calm and they help if we're, you know, traveling very far in a car, they help. There's, you know, a couple digestive oils. I like if they have tummy upset. So there's just certain oils where they're my go to, they're always on me. They're probably everywhere, you know, one of my purses, one to my desk, one, the kitchen, one in the car. But yeah, it's just things that, that have become staples in our home and it's yeah. I just, I can't imagine living, living life without it, at this point, because it does so much for all of us.

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Yeah. Well, and I, I love that you talk about carrying them with you. I actually, and I've had a few friends recently ask me where I got this, but it's like this little black thing and it fits all of the roller bottles in it. And I carry that in my diaper bag all the time. I carry a lot of Frank Ince and I carry a lot of he charm with me because I was in a rollover car accident at 12 years old mm-hmm and I flew out of the car and landed in a Barb wire fence. So I was covered in

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Wow.

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Scrapes from head to toe going through the glass landing in a Barb wire fence, like the whole thing. And so I just, thankfully I haven't had to use them for anything that drastic yet, but I'm like if my kids or myself or we come upon an accident, I would want to have something to help stop mm-hmm the bleeding you know, thankfully I didn't need a blood transfusion or anything like that, but you know, just having some of those things as a first line of defense, I think is just so important for me. And it, it calms my, my mind down knowing that I may not be able to prevent some of these things, but I know what to do if these things were to happen or to come about. So

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Yeah. Yeah. Super. I know there's a mom just recently that was really struggling with her kids just through immune systems and they were always home from school and daycare. And she's trying to work at home. And so it was really limiting her ability to get things done. And I thought, you know, this is something where it's, it's such a simple fix. And we talked about options that she could use with essential oils. And I was just chatting with her. I think it was last week that she said to me, so the first time that I've had two weeks where none of my kids have been home and I've gotten work done just to support their immune systems. And so it's things like that, right. That as women, sometimes we just need something to be able to manage life in a way that doesn't throw us off all the time. And we're not behind the eight ball or running behind trying to catch up because things go, things go off when you have kids, they just do. It's how it is. Yeah. And so again, like it's so supportive and I think it's a simple, simple option to have at hand.

(32:58):

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. This has been a fantastic conversation, Don, and I really hope that people sign up for the summit and go check it out. It's free. You can pay to upgrade. Obviously I'm a fan. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be doing these things if I, if I didn't believe in the cause and the purpose for bringing this information to people, especially in, in a way that is free, right? Like you're just investing your time. And I know as a busy mom, I am, I have to do laundry. I have to do the dishes. I have to sit down and nurse a baby and I can either choose to binge watch TV shows or something like that, but really just investing in yourself in these times, I think is super important. So what are, is there anything that you would like to share in closing?

(34:01):

I think just bottom line, take the time and gift it to yourself. Like there is never going to be a better time in life for you to actually care for yourself than right now. Like life will continue going on. Things will go by, nothing will change if you don't choose to make some differences and grow in some area. So if you're willing to put a bit of time into yourself so that you can grow and really have a more vibrant, more, more fulfilled life, then choose that, choose that over other things. And so I hope that you would choose to register and take in whatever you could manage of the summit and be a part of this because it's not only amazing information, but it's an amazing community of women that will be there all looking for similar things. And so it gives you a community as well.

(34:45):

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so excited for this to air. And I'm so excited for the, the summit to go live and, and all of these things for women. So thank you Don, for organizing this and also coming on and talking to everybody about what you're doing and your passion and the reason why you're doing these things. So thank you so much.

(35:11):

Thank you, Shannon, for the opportunity to chat about it.

(35:13):

Yeah. I'll see you on the next bye

(35:19):

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(35:33):

Please.

SHOW NOTES AT 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION

(00:00):

This is episode 88. My hypothyroidism is back and I'm ready to talk about it. Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more. After that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the Hanon method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast.

(01:29):

All right, welcome back. You guys. Oh, I am on a bit of a vulnerability hangover. So if you follow me on Instagram, thriving thyroid, I yesterday recently shared an Instagram story where I talked about I out, I am currently in a place of feeling very loved and very supported. And I don't think that most people know that you could be this happy. So we recently, my husband and I recently celebrated our 13 year anniversary for some of you guys. Yes, we are babies. And for others of you, we, we got married super young. I was 20, he was 21. I got pregnant with my first, very soon after that, I had her right before my 22nd birthday. And we've had ups and downs, I think like most people, but I grew up in a home with a lot of trauma, a lot of uncertainty, a lot of instability.

(02:42):

And there was a lot of ups and downs. And I did not realize you could be happy that happiness is a choice. I was told things like, well, what could go wrong is gonna go wrong? You know, my dad was quoting Murphy's law and I grew up with a lot of false beliefs around. If something good happens, something equally as bad or worse has to happen. And so I was constantly for the first, I don't know, 10 years, 11 years of our marriage looking for the bad I was looking for the drama. And my husband always laughed at me for the first several years because it was like every springtime. I was like, Hey, let's buy a new house. Hey, let's, you know, look at what the market is doing. We should look at new houses and he is like, why our house is great.

(03:39):

And our house was great, but I was always trying to create something in my life. Okay. Hopefully, hopefully some of you guys can relate to that. And I've told this story many times before, but this was such a pivotal moment for me, where my husband was like, we were having a disagreement. I wouldn't even say arguing, we're sitting on the bed, we're not yelling and screaming. And I was just like, if you, if you, you need to, you know, kind of digging into him after work. And he just looked at me one day and was like, will you ever be happy? And of course my stubborn self, I was like, well, of course not, I'm never gonna be happy. But really that was a pivotal moment in my life where I set on a mission to change my life, to find happiness, to find joy, because my happiness, my joy is not related to my husband.

(04:45):

My happiness and joy is not related to my kids or the house that I live in or the car that I drive or any of these external factors, joy and happiness comes from within. And it took me a freaking long time. to find the joy. It took me a long time to feel happy and it didn't happen overnight. And it didn't change instantaneously by reading one book, I have to do the work every single freaking day to get up and make a decision to be happy. And here's where the vulnerability comes in. Okay. I, I hate even saying this, cuz I'm like, this is public for the whole world to see and hear and you know, do what they want with this. And so hopefully you guys know that this is coming from a place of love. And I thought we were done having kids.

(05:53):

My husband thought we were done having kids. We were very happy with our three little girls and they were pretty close to perfect life was good. We had just built our new dream home. You know, all of these things are starting to take place and I find myself pregnant and I was like, what is going on? right. I question, God, I question God, because I didn't understand his timing here. I was trying to build a business. I have a multiyear business. So I feel like I'm pretty successful, but I'm also building, I'm still builder things in my business that I'm learning every day. I'm learning how to work with clients. I'm learning how to be more proficient in reading testing, I'm taking new classes, I'm hiring coaches. I am still in this building process and things are kind of bumpy, you know?

(06:57):

And so here I am finding myself pregnant and I know what kind of mom I am and I know what kind of mom I want to be. And I want to be an actively engaged mom in my kids' life. And that my older kids, I felt like they were pretty self-sufficient if they needed me, they could come into the office and they could, you know, Hey mom, I need this or Hey, can we do that or whatever. And you'll see 'em in my Facebook lives and Instagram stories and all the things, cuz they're very much a part of my life. And you will hear them in multiple podcast episodes, right? Like that is nothing new. hopefully nothing new to any of you guys. And so knowing that and knowing, oh my gosh, I'm gonna have this little baby who is going to need me and is going to be dependent upon me.

(07:44):

I had no clue how I was gonna do it. So that aside, I also knew that after baby number three, that is when my thyroid, my hormones like fell apart. Like there were hormonal issues prior to that. So that was nothing new, but I felt like they were minor. Okay. After baby number three, I'm like six months, nine months postpartum. I'm still at my birth weight. And I'm like, okay, that was my first clue. I couldn't lose weight. I'm still at like 190 pounds. I delivered her at like, I think just under 200. So I, I mean literally like I hadn't lost any weight. I'm puffy, I'm inflamed. I'm tired. I look back at pictures and I don't even recognize myself. Right? Like I'm just kind of a hot mess and my hair is falling out. And that was what led to the conversation with my mom of like, I just don't feel good.

(08:47):

I don't know what's wrong with me. And my mom's like, Hey, you should go get your thyroid checked. And I was like, haha, you're funny because I was a practitioner and I thought I knew everything. Apparently I didn't. And my husband will tell you when it comes to myself, I forget what I know but so here I was also going into the pregnancy with that trauma and that fear of, oh my gosh, this is gonna happen all over again. How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna run a business now? How am I gonna have kids? How am I gonna, how am I, how am I, how am I, how am I, how am I all of those? How am I ? And that was really emotionally draining. And I've kind of found myself back in the same situation as before. So here I am four months postpartum.

(09:38):

Haven't really lost weight. My thyroid hormones are crazy out of balance. And I found myself wallowing in the pity mentally, right about how I look, how my clothes fit. Like let's be honest. None of my clothes are fitting except for my yoga pants. And even when I like walked past the full length mirror, I'm like, oh, that doesn't look very good. And not because it doesn't look good. And if it was a friend, I'd be like, Hey, you look amazing. But because it doesn't look good because it's not my normal, it's not to the standard that I feel like I am worth. Right. And hopefully that's coming across right. But I know better. I know I should be caring for my body better. And I have recently come to the conclusion that I, I was kind of reminded of this, that it's important for me to turn this me mess.

(10:43):

I'm using air quotes, this mess that I have into my message once again. And it has brought me kind of full circle and back to this is why I started the Hansen method. This is why I started coaching and working with women online was because I knew there were, and there are women like you who don't feel good in their body. They don't feel like themselves, their hair is falling out. They're puffy, they're inflamed. They walk past the mirror and they're like, I don't even know that person. Or they look at into the camera, you know, selfies or whatever. And you're like, wow, that double chin looks really nice. you know, all of these uncomfortable things that we as women are dealing with, this is why I'm doing what I'm doing, because I know there is a flip side. Yes, I know it's gonna take my body a little bit of time to get my hormones balanced and things to get back into working order.

(11:42):

But I also know how to do it. I know what steps need to take place. I know what triggers I have. with my thyroid. And some of them are hard. I have found myself like I don't really wanna give up my doctor pepper. You know, I don't really want to do this because when I got sick last year, my taste, my not my smell, my taste changed. And I found myself not liking water. And it, it was very hard for me to drink water. Even though though I know all the benefits, I know what to be doing. And I've had to retrain myself into some of these things and being sick and being pregnant was it became more of like, I just have to survive. I just have to get food in my body that is going to keep me and baby moving. And so that meant eating things and doing things that I don't quote unquote normally do because of the situation because of the circumstances.

(12:52):

And that's kind of the beautiful thing about all of this is now I have the opportunity to get back into the driver's seat of all of this and go back into implementing all of the techniques that I am using and teaching, or I did use inside the handsome method and what I am currently teaching all of my clients to do. And this has resulted in tremendous amount of success for our clients so much so that women are getting off medication with the help of their doctor. I don't take them off medication. Let's be very clear there, but their thyroid hormones are balancing out to the point where they don't. Their body is responding to the thyroid hormone. Okay. Hormones, plural women are losing 30 pounds in 10 weeks or so where they have hit plateaus and they've been struggling to lose weight that we've had women be able to get off other medications, anxiety, medications, depression, medications, they've been able to regain their energy.

(14:06):

Their hair is stopping, stopping, falling out, stop falling out. Women are balancing their hormones where they're not having painful heavy periods anymore. There are or GI issues. We didn't even talk about GI issues. So they're not gassy. They're not bloated. They're not constipated. They're not backed up. They're body is fully working and operating. They might be experiencing 5%, 10% of their thyroid issues, but 80 to 90% of them have gone away in a very short period of time. Now, the reminder that I have to give all of my clients and even myself, is it didn't take overnight to get where you're at. And it, we cannot expect that it's going to fix itself magically in two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, even, even two months, it's going to take time. And this is why we, I, we, my team and I have extended the program for six months.

(15:11):

So it, instead of it being four months, it is now six months because a majority of our clients have gone through everything in four months and had life changing things. Now, every once in a while, there is a case or a situation where somebody gets sick or something happens with their loved one or I mean life, right life in general. And they need a little bit more time to go through the program or maybe the results aren't coming as quickly as I think, or my practitioners think or the client things. And so that extra two months is total six months gives us that little bit of buffer, right? A little bit of time to implement things that may be harder for us, for some of our clients they're they don't drink at water hardly at all in their drinking Coke or Dr. Pepper or whatever it is.

(16:10):

And so retraining those habits to maybe give up the Dr. Pepper and not have it every single day is that may take longer versus somebody who's coming in and drinking a gallon of water, right? That person drinking a gallon of water, no big deal. Okay. We can go on to the next thing, right? Or there there's so many variables. And because I am going through this and because I am having all of the feelings coming back, I have fully recommitted myself to my mission and my purpose of empowering women, helping them balance out their thyroid hormones, helping them become an empowered patient in talking to their doctor, talking to their physician, advocating for themselves, knowing what rights and what options they have, because it is their body. It is not my body, right? It's it is your body. If you come to me and say, Hey, Shannon, this symptom that I'm having is not normal for me.

(17:17):

We are going to dig into it. And we are going to figure out why that is happening, because I believe every symptom is a sign or a clue as to a deeper issue. So sometimes we have one, I'll give you an example. So I had a client like two years ago, this was a long time ago and she fell down her porch steps and she hurt her back. And then a couple days later, she started having tooth pain. If I remember this correctly and it was a certain tooth and whatever. And we, I was like, I don't know. I have no clue why , you're having tooth pain. Anyways, when we did some investigation, we found out that that tooth is connected to the spine and connected to the alignment. And because there was so much extra inflammation in her spine, it was also manifesting inflammation in that specific tooth who would've thought.

(18:20):

Right? And so again, if you tell me something isn't normal, we're gonna look into it. I'm gonna talk to my other success, coaches. I, I may not have an answer and I am fully aware that I do not know everyone thing. this is why I continue to do coaching. I continue to do training. I continue to get certifications and improve myself because every little thing I can learn, I can bring to each one of you. Now I have spent tens of thousands of dollars on my personal education in functional nutrition, functional diagnostic, nutrition, holistic practitioner, homeopathy, herbal medicine, all of the different trainings that I have done. And I don't want you guys to have to do that. I want you to be able to skip all of the certifications and just get down to what works for you and for your body. And so you guys, I am super jazzed about this.

(19:27):

I am opening enrollment for the Hansen method in June. Okay. And I have bonuses that I have never done before. I do not plan to do them again. because I know I'm kind of gonna be losing money, but I'm okay with that because it is not about the money. It is more about my mission to help you as a client and helping you with the skills that I have skip over the mess, skip over the noise and really accelerate your level of healing and hormone balancing and all of the things. So here we go. First off, I am doing $500 off. Okay. That is a big one because I do not run sales. I do not run discounts. If we do any kind of quote unquote promotional thing, it is right before I increase my prices. Okay. So so I have never done that before.

(20:30):

We're taking $500 off of our program. I'm also going to be giving you guys a new mini course that I have I'm in the process of putting together. It will be done at when, when enrollment happens. But this is if you're what to do, if your labs are normal. So whether you're on medication or not, or trying to get a diagnosis, or you already have one, if your labs keep coming back normal, and your doctor is like, you are fine, I'm gonna be sharing with you what to do, how to handle that, all of those things. Okay. We are also doing functional testing. So when you come in, we're gonna be doing functional testing and without functional testing, we will be building out personalized and individualized protocols for you for the time that we are working together. And I'll be honest. Most of our clients have, depending on how fast their body responds and how compliant they are and all of these external factors that we just don't know, most of our clients have one to three different phases of their protocols while they work with us.

(21:43):

So phase one is kind of an anti-inflammatory type deal. We're looking at nutrition, we're looking at things that you need for your body. Okay. Then we move into the next phase. So if the next phase is GI stuff, if the next phase is hormonal stuff, is the next phase heavy metal detoxification, all of those different things are gonna be taking in, be taken into consideration as we build out phase two and phase three, okay. Because the body works in phases and it's like, we have to peel back all of the layers and, and stuff. So those with that testing, you get the individual protocol and then guess what it takes time to get the functional testing. Number one, done number two, sent into the lab and the lab to do its testing, and then to get me the report and then for me to review it and then to put together the protocols.

(22:41):

So all of that, we, we know that that takes time. We know that that takes three to four weeks to get into that habit. And so with that being said, we are going to give you a starter pack of supplements. These are supplements that we have been using for the last two years that are highly, highly, highly effective for women with Amos and hypothyroidism, because they are so balancing and nourishing to the body. And honestly, within like two weeks to two to four weeks, a lot of our clients experience massive results without even getting their customized protocol. Okay. So super exciting. And then the last bonus, and this is the big one, the Yu biggie, biggie biggie. I am going to be coaching you for an additional six months for free. Okay. So let's recap. You get to work with us for 12 months.

(23:50):

So an extra six months, four, $500 off our original price, plus the testing plus the supplements and that mini course, you guys, this is an incredible deal. Okay. We are going to be starting. The, the start date for this program is June 11th. Okay. It will, the enrollment will end at the end of that week because we want people to be starting at the same time so that you guys are working on the same things and we can support each other. And the other really cool thing is I'm gonna be going back through my own program and revisiting all of these things that I have lost. I don't even wanna say lost some of the things that I know I should be doing for my thyroid, that I'm not currently doing. And I am going to be sharing my journey with you inside the Hanon method.

(24:54):

I'm gonna be sharing what I'm eating. I'm gonna be sharing. You guys are gonna be kind of my accountability, but also so that you know that you're not alone, that your coaches are walking the walk and talking the talk and doing all of the things that we're telling you to do, because I know that it is that important. All right, you guys, if you are ready to take action, if you are ready to do this with me, if you are pumped up and excited, head over to the show notes, you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors, and we will review your case and your situation to see if you are a good fit to work with us inside the Hanon method. If you're like hands down, I know this is for me. You can also head over to the show notes and go ahead and purchase the program.

(25:45):

I do offer a two week money back a guarantee. So if for whatever reason you get in and you decide this isn't for you we will be refunding you the money minus the cost of any testing that you did or any supplements that we have sent you in, in the midst of that or any one-on-one services that we have provided for you. So now is the time take action, take control of your life. You guys, summer is a wonderful time to do that. And a lot of this can be done in summertime, okay. Even amongst the, the traveling and the busy schedules, we're gonna be, I'm gonna be sharing with you what I'm packing and what I'm doing for my vacations, for my road trips, all of that. Okay. So anyways, I'm super excited. Head over to the show notes. I will see you on the next

(26:41):

Way before you go, please subscribe. If you found value in today's episode, us and on, I.

Hetal was struggling with High Cholesterol and Hashimoto's, and was classically trained in Homeopathy, she started seeking out answers on how to naturally restore function in her body without using medication.

She was struggling with, weight gain, brain fog, sugar cravings energy crashes and dry skin. She didn't feel good, in her own skin && she knew something was OFF. Now she lost 13 lbs, her hair loss stopped, her energy improved and was feeling less stressed.

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SHOW NOTES AT 

Get on the Hansen Method waitlist. Click here. We open up the Hansen Method 2-3x a year so that we can fully support our clients to the highest degree possible.

Thinking about using nutrition and holistic health for restoring thyroid function? Learn EVERYTHING you need to know by joining our Free Facebook Group. Thriving Thyroid Balance Community.

Are you interested in learning more about your thyroid and finding answers? 

We got you! 

We have several different opportunities to work with us at several different price points and opportunities. 

Our signature 6-month program is called The Hansen Method, we offer this in a VIP setting with personalized plans and protocols, individual one on one coaching and incredible bonuses that change regularly. You can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. Click here.  If you have questions about the Hansen Method and want to discuss your specific situation and make sure this is the right program for you you can schedule a complimentary thyroid breakthrough call with one of our team members. schedule here. Hurry, my schedule fills up quickly and we only work with limited amount of women at any given time.

 Join hundreds of women who have improved their symptoms by 80% and lose on average 30lbs in the 4 months.  

Not ready to schedule a call, no problem. Learn more about the Hansen Method to see if it’s a good fit for you. Click here to learn more. 

We also offer The Hansen Method as a Self Guided option. 

Option number 1 for self guide is where you are totally on your own to go through the program content, make the changes and execute them on your own. Click here to purchase. 

Option number 2 includes group coaching and access to our members facebook group that will allow you access to our Thyroid Success Coaches and testing with personalized protocols. Click here to purchase.   

But one of our favorite ways to work with us is our Thriving Thyroid Coaching Membership Opportunity.  This is where many of clients first begin working with us. It allows you to get to know us, our system and start making changes before making a larger financial investment. Click here to learn more. 

CONTACT LINKS

• Website

• Facebook Community

• YouTube

• Instagram

DOWNLOADABLE RESOURCES

• Freedom From Fatigue Guide 

PAID RESOURCES

• Thyroid Recipe Book

AFFILIATE LINKS

• Branch Basics

Xo,

Shannon Hansen

P.S. Make sure to schedule our Thyroid Breakthrough call with one of our thyroid advisors. 

FULL AUDIO TRANSCRIPT

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Okay. I think it's loading.

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Okay. Always.

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Okay. It looks like we're live. All right. Welcome everyone. I have Hael on with me. Heather's been in the handsome method for a little while, and I wanted to give you guys just more real life. Examples of success stories, because I think oftentimes when we're dealing with thyroid, when we're dealing with autoimmunity, we think can that happen for me, or that could never happen for me, or we have all these beliefs around it. And so one of my goals with interviewing people and having these conversations is so that you guys can see real life examples of other women struggling with the same things as you and how they have come through it or not come through it. So welcome. Pethel to today's. I don't know, show call.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, absolutely. So give everybody a little bit of background. Who are you, what do you do all of those fun things?

(01:08):

Well, I am a wife to my husband of almost 21 years, a mother of two boys. And I also work full time in I'm a VP of an industrial company, so it's high, high stress environment. And I study classical homeopathy on the side and kind of venturing into my wellness career path as a hobby. So yeah, that's where I'm at.

(01:41):

Yeah. Amazing. Well, and I love that you bring this background of homeopathy with you into, into everything that, that we're doing here in the Hanson method. So before joining the Hanson method, what were some of the FA what were the symptoms, what were some of the things that you were struggling with?

(02:00):

So I would say I've, I've been hypothyroid most of my life probably about 20 years. And that's all I was told you're hypothyroid, and you're gonna be on this pill for the rest of your life. And I started studying a little bit more into health and wellness over the last seven to eight years and kind of sparked questions in me, but I didn't really do anything about them. They were always in the back of my head until last year my cholesterol started spiking and I knew I was eating fairly well. Yeah. And I was like, well, why all of a sudden is my cholesterol going up mainly the triglycerides. And you know, I was told you need cholesterol in your body, but something may not be working in your body to process your cholesterol. So I decided to go to an endocrinologist and she she just felt the gland and she was like, you know what? I think you have Hashimotos, but let's do a test, a confirmatory test. So she did. And I was sad to find out that I have Hashimotos. Yeah. but it didn't stop there. I just kind of was like, okay, I got it now, what am I gonna do about it? What do I need to learn about it? Because obviously the difference with hypo and Hashimotos is one is autoimmune and I autoimmune the word autoimmune scares me.

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Yeah. It, oh, for me,

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Stresses me out. So that's where it kind of led me to you know, look into a holistic style of treatment, cuz I've always been interested in that in my family. There's homeo pads, there's Ibada, but they're all in the east, on the Eastern side of the world. So they're freely able to practice that, but here we're kind of confined to apathy and I wanted to find an alternative. So I started my seeking out of what can I do? What can I do for myself that doesn't require meds for joint pains or, you know, meds for the headaches or, you know, an antidepressant for the anxiety. Like, yeah. I, I didn't wanna be, I knew I didn't wanna go down that route. You know, I'm fairly young still. I like to believe and I have a long way to go and I don't want medicine to kind of dictate my lifestyle going forward.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh my goodness. There's so much there. I mean like good things, right. I think so quickly to touch on this for the, the listeners, the Watchers autoimmunity and Hashi or hypothyroidism Hashimoto's hypothyroidism are different. Right. They, they work in the body different. And so like you were saying autoimmunity, when I was struggling with that, I was like, ah, you know, or like, anyways, that's like a whole other story. I've shared it in other things. But when I thought it was Hashimotos, I was freaking out, right. I was very nervous because I knew what that meant for me long term. So that was, you know, all of the stress and feelings with that, but then also having my desire to not take medication and not be on medication for the rest of my life was also kind of pulling at me. And so I think that that is very relatable to, to a lot of people. So you were saying you had joint pain. Were you having headaches? What were like the symptoms that you were having?

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So symptoms? Obviously it was a lot of, it was in the lab test that I was getting with the cholesterol. And then I, I did have brain fog every day at about three o'clock. I'd get a craving for sweets and I would just start yawning at work. I was just exhausted by three o'clock. And I, those were my main ones. There was weight gain. It wasn't crazy weight gain and that, wasn't one of my initial reasons for even seeking help, but I didn't feel good. I didn't feel good in my own skin. Yeah. And I knew something was off my skin was always dry. My lips were always dry. And something was off that Thato thyroxin that they put you on it, it wasn't really working. So then I was like, all right, well, I am Hashimotos so let's, let's kind of dive into this a little bit and see what it means.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So when you came in, you joined our four week program. Yeah. Right. I don't remember when that was

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It was, I joined in March.

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Okay. In March, March

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Of this

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Year. Okay, perfect. I'm glad you remember, cuz I don't I was gonna say like, we were talking about this earlier today and we were like, I think we did one in December, like November, December, and then we did one later in the year and I couldn't, I just couldn't remember anyways. But so you joined there and then you decided to continue your journey with us. So what was kind of that like tipping point for saying, okay, I wanna continue on with this.

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Yeah. So the first four weeks, you know, I, I went in skeptical as everyone does. I'm gonna, I'm gonna invest in something. And I'm gonna invest my time into this too. I kind of saw the website and the program that you have us working on in journaling and all that. And as I got into it for the four weeks and especially the coaching calls, I was like, okay, I'm, I'm not only am I enjoying this, but I'm learning, I'm learning so much more than I would if I were to just Google everything myself. And it was, it was kind of comforting to know that I'm not the only one going through some of these symptoms. Some of my symptoms might be milder than others and some of mines might be a little bit more stressful than others, but everyone's kind of going through the same journey and that is to seek better health holistically and that comradery and the environment that's created by the coaches in your program being you, Chris, and whoever else we're gonna be speaking with.

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It's, it's amazing. It's an amazing feeling. And so when my four weeks was finished and you emailed in me and said, okay, well, what do you wanna do next kind of thing. It was a no brainer for me. I was like, you know what, people, you gotta keep doing this. It's something that you're definitely benefiting off of. And I was still on my protocol too, and I wanted to see what else could happen. I was already feeling good changes in my body. Yeah, I was feeling a little more relaxed a little less stressful in how I was handling things. The protocols could, could be overwhelming at first, but the coaching calls kind of help you get through,

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Well, you were probably on one of the toughest protocols, so we have to acknowledge that

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Yeah, it, it was tough. It was definitely, you know, when you have to relearn the way that you've been taught to feed yourself and nourish yourself, you gotta rewire your brain too. yes. And it wasn't, it wasn't easy, but I was able to get through it because I had the Hanson method, family holding my hand. It was, it was great.

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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Chris, we, we had our business meeting this morning and that's what we were all talking about is the family, you know, the it's like a family, you come into the family and for me, a family has always been like the most important thing. That's why I work from home. That's why I like don't have a career outside my home. Like my kids, my husband, my family is always number one. They will always be number one, nothing will come above that. Except for God. So , you know, there's kind of there's, there's that for me, but, and that's what I wanted to create with the Hanson method is this family, this community where you guys get to basically come into our homes figuratively speaking, I mean, I would have you guys at my house too, but you know, like bring you into this circle and, and get to know you, right. Connect with you, understand your lifestyle, understand your beliefs, understand who you are as a person so that we can make this part of, you know, what you need moving forward for you. So after going through that process, where are you now? How are you feeling? What has changed for you all of that?

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So I have been feeling so much clarity over the last four months. I've changed my entire way of eating the way I look at food is a lot different. It's not necessarily oh my God, I gotta have this because that's what I'm used to eating and I'm craving this. I don't have the same cravings. In fact, I crave salads now, which is really unheard of. Yeah, it used to be literally four Hershey, miniature chocolates at three o'clock. Now I can go with an apple and I'm still satisfied. And if you look at the nourishment between the two, you know, you're putting good stuff in your body with the apple, right? Yeah. So the food combining techniques have really resonated and they've helped and I'm, I'm a big geek in that sense. I have to know why yeah. Why, why am I being put on this protocol? Why is this gonna help me? How you know, all of that stuff. And so I, I would do a little independent research, but there's like an encyclopedia in Chris and you where we just ask you guys and you have the answers. So it's nice. It's, it's nice to have that reference point that is empathetic as well, but still extremely knowledgeable about what y'all are doing.

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Yeah. Well, and yeah, sometimes I'm like, Chris, Chris is my encyclopedia Hey, Chris, what about this? You know, or she, she knows, I don't know how she retains all of that in her brain. I'm like, hold on, let me grab a book. Let me look this up. I know there was something about this thing, you know, so anyways, Chris just has it all right there, but yeah. I love that. So is there any last thoughts, anything you wanna share with the, I'm gonna say Watchers, that sounds so weird. anybody following the line today?

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You know, I would say one more added bonus that I got is I recently weighed myself and I've lost a total of 13 pounds and you seen almost 5% of body fat on my program. Wow. And that is, you know, when I, whenever I used to be on the scale, the pounds didn't bother me, but it was the body fat percentage that I would be arced by. Cause I was like, I work out, I do everything. Why is my body fat percentage still just it's unwavering. It's just right there. And the minute I did this protocol, and again, it wasn't in the first week. It wasn't in two weeks. I would say I started seeing my difference within about three to four weeks is when I really started feeling different making on the

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Protocol

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On the protocol. Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah.

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Yep. Making connections of realizations on the mindset side that it, that was, that's just a bonus, like, you know, to, to finally be able to align, you know, I'm a big believer that everything is holistic. You have, have to align your, your mind body spirit and to be able to bring all of that into alignment gradually and see that shift happening. That's, that's probably the biggest thing I've gotten out of this program so far. And I say so far because I'm, I'm gonna stay on it. I mean, yeah. It's, it helps. It definitely helps me out.

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Amazing. just so everybody knows when you first come into the Hansen method, we have about four weeks where we're waiting for testing to come back. Right. So you're kind of on a box program, a cookie cutter, like everybody's kind of doing the same thing for the first four weeks. And then once we get your test results back, once we figure out, oh, Hey, this is really what's going on with Pethel or, you know, whoever it is then at that point, it is customized. And all of our clients go like, you know, in opposite different directions, but it's all customized to you, the supplements, the foods that you're eating, all of those different things. So for hel, she was working with us for about eight weeks doing the first part and then four weeks on her protocol is when she noticed the really big shifts in all of that body fat percentage, weight, those types of things. So, yeah. Thank you so much for sharing

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The first. Yeah,

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Go ahead. Go ahead.

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The the first four weeks really helped because yeah, the first four weeks really helped me because it got me kind of into the mode and the right. I guess it, it just kind of helped guide me into the protocol process. So it wasn't like a dramatic shift. I was already kind of weaning my way into it and that was kind of nice because it wasn't a shock.

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Yeah. Yeah. I got

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. I would say we did that by design, but honestly that's just kind of how it ends up being with the labs. Yeah, but it, it works out like you're saying in favor of people because it's like, okay, you start drinking water. Okay. You start learning about food combining you start learning about, okay, these are the foods that really help support thyroid and hormone function. You know, these are the foods that are stopping that from working. And so you're, you're kind of gradually going into it. So then when we transition you, like you said, into your full protocol, it's like, boom, okay, I got it. Like, I understand what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. And I think Chris thinks we all kind of think that it helps increase compliance because you're already seeing the benefits kind of early on from it. So yeah. Yeah.

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Love it. So, I mean, it, it, I, I can't thank you guys enough for no, all the guidance, all the support. You know, particularly my favorite part has been learning on the nutritional side of things because it's something that I didn't know about as much. And the mindset, the mindset it's just happened. It's crazy. It's nice. So thank you guys and your team.

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Well, here's the thing, you guys do all the work. We provide you with the resources, but you still have to pick it up. You still have to put forth the work and the effort. So all of the accolades goes to, to you hel and to everybody else who is putting forth the time, the energy, the work, and investing in themselves. So you guys are amazing and you guys really make the handsome method. Great. without you guys, we, you know, it wouldn't be what it is. So, Yeah. All right guys, thank you so much. Courtney says so proud of, Hey, he so proud of how far you've come, enjoy listening to you and being on this journey with you.

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Thank you, Courtney. I look forward to seeing you on the coaching call. Soon. I missed may start missing when I don't see them.

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I know I, I kind of have withdrawals too, so yeah. All right. You guys,

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It really does become family.

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So, oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry.

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Yeah, no, no. It, what I said is it, it really does become your family. And you start, you start it's comradery. It's nice.

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Yeah. Well, and you start to people share things on those coaching calls about their family, about their life, about who they are and, and you, you feel that connection with them and yeah, it's just you guys, it's a beautiful thing. You kind of have to come experience it for yourself. You know, there, there's not really words for it, but hel thank you so much for being here. I don't wanna take too much more of your time. If you guys have any questions for myself maybe if you have something specifically for hel, you know, go ahead and drop them here below and we will try to answer them. And we will see you guys in the next.

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This is episode 86, what to do with my kids over the summer. So I don't go crazy.

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Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hanson, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the fibroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the Hanon method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast.

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All welcome back to the thriving thyroid. You wanted to something a little bit different because I've really been feeling like I'm missing a part of who I am in the content that I create for you guys. And this is totally my own thing. I have felt scared to share certain parts of me because I'm like, well, it doesn't have to do with health. And you know, really what it comes down to is fear of judgment. I was fearful and probably still am. about what you guys will think of me as a person versus me as a practitioner and coach, but really one of the big things that I've always envisioned for the thriving thyroid podcast, the thriving thyroid business, the same, the wellness business is really what it is, but the umbrella of the, the thyroid is to have my family included in what I do.

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It is really important for me. Family is really important to me and I am putting myself out there a little bit to feel a little bit more vulnerable because if I want a family business, I have to be the change. And I know for the women that I want to work with and the women that I do work with family is also an essential part of why they want to get better and why they want their body to function. They want to, you know, play with their kids. They want to take them to the park. They want to be a fun Nana or grandma or Mimi or whatever you go by. They want to be able to say yes to their kids in babysitting, and they want to have the energy to get down on the floor and play with them and not be in pain or not have to suffer for days afterwards when their body is like, Nope, right.

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So it's really important for me to bring this element into the business as a whole. So with that being said, there might be a little bit more mommy and mindset and things that I have personally done and that I, that work well for me. And if it works well for you, I hope so. I hope so. Hopefully you guys can always take little nuggets and even if you aren't a mom, I hope you guys listen to this because I'm gonna be sharing with you guys more than just that. Right. I, I was talking to my daughter on the way to taking her to school this morning. And she was telling me this story about a friend's mom and how this mom was really stressed out and overwhelmed. And she was like, mom, I just don't understand why they couldn't have planned better. And I, you know, and that would reduce their stress and all of these different things.

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And I was like, you know what, you're absolutely right. But I have to tell you, I was that mom. I was the straight stressed out, crazy mom yelling at my kids. It was all their fault. When really in actuality it was my fault. I was the one that said yes to too many things. I was the one that was stressed out and I let things get under my skin and pile up, or I would procrastinate so long that it was so much for me to take on. And then I would take it out on the people that I love the most. And let's be real here. It's not my kids' fault. It is not my husband's fault. It is my, my responsibility. And this is where taking that personal ownership and that personal responsibility comes into play, right? That is the number one thing that I believe us women and us people as society can do is to be the first person to raise our hand and say, you know what?

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I made a mistake. I messed up and taking that personal responsibility will lead us to having a more healthy life and feeling more fulfilled in our life. So the biggest strategy that I implemented about five years ago, maybe a little longer, maybe a little shorter, about five years ago, maybe it was, I dunno, anyways was I started saying things like, I would love to do that, but let me check my calendar first. And then I would look at my calendar and I would make sure that it was a good fit for that day because what I ended up doing a lot of times is I would say yes, and then I would go home and realize, oh my gosh, I have five other other things to do. Yes, I could fit that in between this time and that time, but I'm gonna be running around like a chicken with my head off, cut off, and I would be stressed out about it or frustrated and upset with other people because somehow it was their fault when it was mine.

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1. So that was one of the first strategies that I implemented, the second strategy. And I grew up with a, a family that did this. And so it was a matter of me bringing it back. So my mom, we played this game, white tornado. I have never heard of anybody else playing this game. So if you have played this game or heard of this game before, please send me a DM. I would love to know. . So this white tornado is we would set a timer for 5, 10, 15 minutes, and we would run around the house as fast as we could. And we would clean up all of the things. Now, it was such a short period of time. And even for my kids, it's such a short period of time that they're able to keep their attention. And I, there's always some kind of quote, unquote reward for my kids at afterwards, right?

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Once you get done with this, we can go to the park. Once we get done with, you know, if you work really hard for 10 minutes or 15 minutes, then we can go play outside. Or if you do this for 10 minutes, then we can go on a bike ride. If you do this, then this right. And really kind of instilling that into my kids and letting them know that it is important to get the work done, but it's equally as important to go and have fun and play, right? Play is super good for the kids. And so those two things we have gotten out of the habit since little miss has come along and we are getting back to it for summertime, because I was talking to my husband. I'm like, listen, I, in the past pre COVID when the world was opened up and we didn't know anything different every single day during the summer, I had something planned for the kids Monday.

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We did here in Arizona Harkins movie theater, they do like a summer movie passing. It's like 10 bucks and you get eight different movies. And so you get to go every week. And if you can't make it no big deal, but I would take the kids to movies on Monday, and then Tuesday, we would go down to the church and it was just really a bunch of us moms organizing summer activities for our kids. No money was involved. We just rotated who was in charge. And we did that on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, or excuse me, Tuesdays and Thursdays and Wednesdays. We did my family, my kids, and I, we did a wet Wednesday and we would go down to a water park. We bought season passes and we would go hang out at the water park all day on Wednesday. And then Friday was kind of a friend day or a whatever day, maybe get caught up, maybe just hang out at the house and relax or whatever we felt like.

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It, again, here in Arizona, it's super hot. So we have to be kinda resourceful on what we do. for activities outside, inside all of those different things when it's in the middle of July and it's outside. So then COVID shut a lot of that changed. And a lot of the things that we were used to doing were no longer an option. And so once again, we had to recalibrate and get kind of creative. And so this year now that I have baby, I am like, how can we merge and mesh two of these different worlds together? And this is what I've come up with. So I'm gonna share all of that with you. And really a lot of this has to do with making sure that my little baby has a somewhat of a schedule, right. And that she can get into good naps and she's happy and has fun and all of that.

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So what I have decided to do and keep in mind, I have my older three are between the ages of six and 11, but I really think this could be adapted to a lot of different ages. And you guys can, can do what you want. So every day we kind of have a different theme or different activity that we're gonna do. We're gonna be hanging out a little more at the house. for my sanity, with a newborn. At what point do I not call a newborn? I don't know. with a little baby, she's gonna be five, six months around summer time. So Mondays we're still going to the movie theater. And it happens like first thing in the morning, I think like eight o'clock in the morning and maybe eight 30. I don't remember. I'd have to look at the time for sure.

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Between eight and nine, we'll say that is when the movie starts. And then right across the street, we have passes to an indoor trampoline place called urban air. And so I told the kids, if you guys pack your lunches and stuff, I will go to the movie and then I'll take you over there to go jump for a couple hours. And so they can get exercise and get activity and all of that. And then we'll come back to the house and we'll just hang out at the house for the rest of the day Tuesday, we're gonna be doing the church thing. This year we're doing Tuesday and Fridays, I think where we're gonna, again, switch off days. It costs no money and a lot of us moms enjoy us getting together and hanging out and having conversation, but then also getting our kids an activity to do that is a physical activity.

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Then Wednesday we are going to be hanging out with cousins and again, it will be a wet Wednesday. My sister has a pool and we have like a little above ground pool. So we'll just kind of switch off days or weeks, excuse me, where she'll come down here, I'll go up there and just kinda have a relaxing time. So her youngest can get a nap. My baby can get good naps. And just have it like super chill. Then on Thursday grandma, honey, isn't nothing through this thing ever. That is my husband's mom. She is going to be taking the kids to do crafts and activities, and my kids love hanging out with their parents and it it'll be perfect. Right. It'll be super nice for me to also have a relaxing day. And, but we have some kind of structure to our week.

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So we have planned out activities and my kids that have what somewhat at the schedule and a routine, so they know what to plan on. Okay. In addition to that, we're also gonna be home and there is a need for activities and structure because I find my kids when they don't have structure, one of two things happen either they wanna watch TV all day or two, they get on each other's nerves and they just start bickering. And then I lose my ever loving mind because I'm like, can you just please not, like seriously that wasn't necessary. You know, that kind thing. And so we are going unquote, summer and background.

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I'm going have a station set up and different units. I find for some of my kids, some of these units they will play for and do this for like two weeks. And then other times they might do it for like three days and then we can rotate through. So what I have decided to do is come up with several different units and as the summer goes along, we can vote on which one we want to do next. Or as I see them kind of winding down, they can say, oh, Hey, this would be really fun to set up. So here are some ideas. One of the units is going be a painting unit. And so I will do it with them. We will watch different videos and try out a lot of different painting techniques. So watercolor acrylic stuff, those diamond paintings, even though it's not technically painting.

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I figured we might be able to put that in there. Those little diamond things. And again, I don't have super young kids so they can manage those diamond paintings and we just have such a good time with them. We're gonna do a sewing unit. I think it's really important for my kids to learn basic sewing skills. And so we're gonna practice making again, will kind of vote on it. But some of my ideas I wrote down were pillow cases, skirts, pajama, pants, things like that. Then we're gonna have a week of science experiments. We'll do a whole bunch of research, we'll find experiments and, and try out a lot of different things that are age appropriate and my husband is really great at stuff like that. And so he, he will help facilitate that, I think a little bit.

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And then we're also gonna be doing a lot of sensory play. I am a, a, a lover of sensory play. I think it's super fun. I found this recipe on Pinterest. I think it, they called it like whipped bubbles or something like that, where you use your KitchenAid and it's so much soap to so much water and food coloring, and you basically make this foam of water and bubbles, and it just looked super fun to play with. So that's something that we will do is do some just different sensory play, whether that's slime or something. And let me give you a little secret or a little nugget. What I have done in the past is I have gone to the dollar store or Walmart, or just somewhere is super cheap, where they have those plastic shower, curtains. Again, you don't need anything expensive or anything like that.

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And I put that on the ground, underneath the painting activities underneath the sensory play, whatever could potentially make a mess so that I don't have to clean up. I can literally ball it up. I can take it outside. I can shake it off, or I can spray it off with a hose. Like I want minimal cleanup for me. And I also tell my kids, like, you need to stay, you know, on this thing so that there doesn't end up being paint or whatever, whatever messes that are , they could potentially be in getting all over the house. And we're also going to be doing a cooking unit, and we're going, this is gonna help out. So here you go, moms we are doing some freezer meals. We're gonna be doing cookies and pretzels. Again, we're gonna kind of vote on it and see what they want to do during that time, but I'm gonna try to keep these things nutritious and also help them take some personal responsibility for dinners.

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What do you guys wanna eat for dinner? Okay, let, this is something we could prep in the freezer so that we can spend more time playing this summer. And I think framing it that way, my kids will be more on board cuz they're like, heck yes, I wanna play all summer long. We're gonna have a Lego unit. We came up with some other ones and then I don't remember what they are. So , those are the summer units now last but not least. One of the things that we have also done is we have signed up our kids for some summer camps through our local city and my two middle kids. That's so weird for me to say my two middle kids are gonna do a cheer camp. It's a week long for four hours, three days a week or four days a week for just a week.

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So it's like 12 hours total and they get to go learn cheerleading stuff. My older daughter has decided she wants to try out softball and those were relatively inexpensive. And so we're gonna, we're gonna incorporate those activities into our schedule as well to get them just out of the house, doing something, being active making new friends, all of those wonderful things. And my oldest does have some church camp that she is gonna go to for three days, you know, and then of course we're gonna do other quote unquote, bigger activities. I told my kids every other week, we'll, we'll go do a big-ish activity. Like the aquarium or something. That's gonna be maybe an all day activity and we'll just kinda work it in. Maybe we'll miss one of the church activities to make it happen. Okay. So here's another little tidbit and I debated on whether or not to share this, but I feel like this might help some moms .

(20:25):

So this is the first time that we are doing this. I, in order to help take stress off of me, I told my husband, okay, well let me back up and, and share this with you. Before I dive into this, we do not pay our kids for chores. Okay. We fully expect them to help with dishes. After dinner time, we expect them to clean up their rooms and help keep the bathrooms clean and clean baseboards and all of those things when needed. So they don't, we don't pay for that kind of stuff. We do pay for extra, extra air quotes here extra things if they want to earn money. So if they come to me and say, Hey mom, I want extra money to buy such and such toy. Great. Absolutely. They can come to me and say that and ask, you know, what can they do?

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And so we will pay for extra chores. You know what I really made the bathroom cleaned. If you clean the bathroom, I'll pay you X amount of dollars. The horses, not the horses, we don't have horses. The cow stalls area needs to be cleaned up. If you go clean that up, I'll pay you X amount of dollars. And so on and so forth. And what I have really trained, and we are totally not perfect at this at all. but what we are really working towards and we've had many conversations with our kids is we want them to get to the point where they can see dishes in the sink. They can see that the trash can is full and they go ahead and just take it out or they go ahead and they clean it up, whether it's theirs or not, because ultimately these kids are going to grow to be adults.

(22:17):

And I don't ha I, as an adult and my husband as an adult, do not have someone else in our life. That's like, Hey, the dishes need to be done. Hey, you need to vacuum the floor. And so we want to be raising kids that are capable of looking at something, oh, the trash needs to be taken out. Okay, here we go. Or tomorrow it's trash day, I'm gonna go gather up all the trash in the house and just start all over again. And those are skills that we have developed as adults and hopefully growing up so it wasn't as much of a shock for us when we grew up. And so that's really the idea and the, I guess the methodology of how we are raising these children. So with that being said in the past, I have, my kids are like, mom, the let's go to the aquarium and I would pay for everybody this summer.

(23:23):

We have decided to do something a little bit different. And so I be paying my children a little bit of money to do their summer reading. So read 20 minutes a day and they ha each one of my kids has individual goals. One of them wants to improve their spelling. Another kid wants to get faster at reading and one of them wants to get more fluid in her reading. So not my six year old wants to be able to blend the sounds a little bit quicker and read more quickly. And so every day they're gonna be Monday through Friday, they're gonna have to do a lesson or two on their specific goals so that they can improve their, I guess, third literacy for their next school year. And this is something as a parent that we are just hoping to facilitate. So there will be a few requirements like that.

(24:25):

And if meet those marks every day one of the things is, so let's say we go to the movie, my kids will be like, Hey mom, let's get popcorn and drinks and candy and all of the things and in the past, yeah, cool. Whatever you want, grab whatever you want. Well, what I have decided is more important is that they learn how to budget their money. And, you know, I will, I bought the movie tickets. I will buy the drink cups that they can refill. And if they want a drink, they can pay the dollar or $2. Or I think it's two, a dollar, something like that to fill it up and either they can share and have it, or they can pay for their own. So some of the responsible for paying all of it or half of it again, just depending on what the activity is, and this is baby is talking.

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So I'm going to let you go. Hopefully you guys found some nuggets in here and we'll give you an opportunity to open up some of the discussion for, with you and your spouse and maybe your kids on what is going to help you have a successful summer that is going to feel fun and relaxing and not stressful. because I think that is an important thing as we are working on our thyroid and our health is learning how to manage the stress and manage expectations. Yes. This is going to take time to plan out. Yes, this is going to take multiple conversations. We still haven't nailed everything down, you know, between my husband and I, but we are starting to get a blueprint and working towards finding solutions for our kids over summer so that they can be happy and I can be happy and it can be a good experience for all of us.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):

This is episode 85 with Ben brown. Ben brown is the owner of BSL nutrition and online nutrition and fitness consulting business specializing in designing individualized nutrition, lifestyle and strength training programs. Ben currently works with both local and long distance individuals and businesses and has worked in con has consulted with numerous sports teams, including the Arizona Diane index and the golden state warrior organizations. He holds two master's degree, one degrees, one from Arizona state university in exercise and wellness with an emphasis on strength and conditioning and a second from the university of Bridgepoint in clinical nutrition. Most importantly then is a husband and a father of three kids who provide the daily love, motivation, and humility. He uses as a driving force to continue to learn and grow as a man mentor and coach you guys. This is one of my most, I say that about a lot of episodes, but I really enjoyed this interview with Ben. I feel like he has a really great understanding in terms of weight loss and nutrition and how we go through phases and, and nutritional seasons to support the body. And this is something that I fundamentally believe that we are always progressing more and more, and it's important to listen to our body and understand what our bodies need at this same and age as we go through these different phases and seasons of life. So I hope you guys enjoy this episode as much as I have

Speaker 2 (01:44):

Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hanson, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the Hansen method as a health professional and a mom, I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:06):

Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast. You guys, I have Ben brown with me. I am so excited to be having this conversation with him as we are gonna be talking about nutrition and fitness and how that relates to just lifestyle and how to use those things to improve energy. All of, all of the things. So Ben welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:28):

I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me Shannon.

Speaker 2 (03:31):

Yeah, absolutely. So give everybody a little bit of background as to who you are, what you do.

Speaker 3 (03:38):

Yeah, absolutely. So we have a company called BSL nutrition that stands for body systems labs and we are a fitness and nutrition and kind of supplement coaching company. We've got a number of different supplement products, but most importantly is we are a kind of a nutrition driven coaching company and we believe that your health determines your freedom. And so by virtue of that, we wanna give people the tools and the skills and the knowledge to be able to not only reach their health and fitness and lifestyle goals, but also to be able to maintain those for life. And, and so just in terms of background, I have a couple different master's degree, one in exercise physiology, another one in clinical nutrition. And so I I've been involved in, in strength and conditioning for athletes. I've been involved in physical therapy for just the general population and a long line of personal training with individuals over years and years, and then starting to really study more about nutrition and the implications of nutrition on our health, on our wellbeing on our you know, community and so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (04:45):

And so what we've done with our, our coaching program now is really leveraged the best pieces of the fitness of the nutrition of the lifestyle coaching to try and create individualized programs for someone depending on their goals.

Speaker 2 (04:59):

Yeah. Were you always like an athlete or did the, that kind of shift for you later? Or what, what was that journey like for you?

Speaker 3 (05:09):

You know I did grow up a bit of an athlete. I I'll albeit not a great one. But by virtue of, of going through sports so in high school I tore my ACL which got me really, really interested into the physical therapy process and into the sport performance process. And then similarly is I suffered from a number of gastrointestinal issues when I was 15, 16 and beyond to the degree that I was very limited with the types of foods I could eat, I was getting sick all the time. I was in a number of different an acid medications, and the doctors couldn't really figure out what was going on with me. And so that also led me to really starting to try and understand how my nutrition impacted my health, right. And through the years of studying undergrad and I actually played rugby for university of Arizona undergrad.

Speaker 3 (06:06):

And then I went to Arizona state university for graduate school for exercise physiology or exercise and wellness, and continued to play some, some higher level men's club rugby. But throughout that process, I was, I was obviously personal training. I was studying fitness and then I really had to continue to dig deeper, deeper into the realm of nutrition and clinical nutrition and diagnostic nutrition, and supplementation, as a means to frankly, just figure out my own issues. And fortunately, I was able to do that. It took you, I wasn't until about 2006, 2007, that I figured out that I had some nasty bacterial infections going on in my stomach, that I had a number of different food sensitivities that were going on. And so by virtue of kind of healing, those, it helped me venture off into into our, our nutrition coaching program as it stands today.

Speaker 2 (06:57):

Yeah. So how did you find out that you were having those issues? Food sensitivities, and you said gut pathogen, so like a microbiome issue. So how did, did you do functional testing or how did, how did you kind of land on that?

Speaker 3 (07:14):

Yeah, great question. So obvious I went the, I guess the route of academia, I went and got a master's degree in exercise and wellness and, you know, we think we're gonna learn all of the things that we need to do our job appropriately. And it's not that way. I didn't, I mean, again, I was involved in sport performance. I was involved in personal training, but I still couldn't figure out what was going on with me. And then at the same time, I was working with a number of clients whose goals were to improve their energy, to to experience fat loss, right. To improve their performance and so on and so forth. And we know the role that nutrition plays in that yet the, the training alone wasn't getting the job done. And so I, I really needed to continue to study. And so I started doing advanced different advanced certifications.

Speaker 3 (08:04):

I studied through the check Institute. I studied through Charles Quin. You name it. I mean, I was just trying to learn everything I possibly could about nutrition and the implications on health and wellness. And, and I was introduced to a clinician in San Francisco named Dr. Dan Kish. And again, this was in 2006, so this was at the very forefront of the sort of functional medicine revolution. And I signed up for a six month kind of intensive functional medicine certification course. And that really led me down the road of, okay, thyroid function adrenal fatigue, gut function organic acid profiles and understanding how all of these biological organisms and body systems. And, and, and really that was the impetus for, I haven't thought it's funny. I haven't thought about this stuff in a long time, but that was really the impetus for how I came up with the name body systems as my business, because really what we were doing is we were looking at all of these different body systems, right.

Speaker 3 (09:13):

We were looking at the adrenals and the liver and the gut and, and, and the thyroid and the musculoskeletal system and the brain. Right. And trying to understand all of the nuances of how they're all intertwined. But by virtue of the functional medicine course that I took, we did a you know, a gut pathogen test. I tested positive for H pylori, which is a bacterial infection that houses itself in your stomach lining and can be a really, really nasty infection that can suppress stomach acid and, and cause a host of other issues. So I think it was a product of that and conjunction with just poor eating habits, too much partying in college. And, and, and frankly, growing up, having just been exposed to tons and tons of different antibiotics, like my parents were always the, the people that are like, oh, he's, he's got the sniffles, put him on an antibiotic, you know, and yep.

Speaker 3 (10:05):

I think which a lot of us a lot of us were perhaps growing up in the eighties and nineties. And so there was a lot of work to be done once that was diagnosed. It was really starting to wind the clock back, take herbal products, to get rid of the pilori start to heal my gut, the mucosal barrier, get rid of gluten and dairy and some of the offensive foods at the time to allow that process to happen. And then just start to figure out how to be my own best nutrition detective from there on out.

Speaker 2 (10:36):

I love this and I can totally relate to the antibiotics . So I grew up in a family of like physicians and doctors. My dad is an O he was, he passed away an OT. But his brother was a podiatrist and had access to all kinds of pharmaceuticals. So it was like, oh, your throat is scratchy here. You know, we'd have here's

Speaker 3 (10:59):

Amoxicillin.

Speaker 2 (10:59):

Yep. Yes. We had the, you know, the big pharmacy pill bottles with, you know, thousands of them. And so it was like, oh, anytime, like you said, the sniffles and the throat, here you go. Here you go. so, yeah. Yep. Definitely leading to that imbalance in the gut. One of the things that I find really interesting about what you talk about in your work is nutritional seasons. So how does that relate to approaching our health weight loss in a realistic way?

Speaker 3 (11:34):

You know, what's so important that I've come to realize over the years because I've been doing this you know, I've been coaching individuals really since 2003, 2004, 2005. That's when I was in graduate school. And then of course as a full-time business, really since then is that we can't ever take just this myopic one size fits all approach to our nutrition now to be fair, most people most for, for most people, let's just say they, they come and see us and, and they wanna lose weight. Well, that's all good and well, and there's certainly things that we need to focus on in order to help them move the needle. And, and clearly there's, you know, improving their nutritional intake and the quality of food and the amount of movement that they're doing and the type of movement that they're doing and their lifestyle and their stress management and their sleep.

Speaker 3 (12:25):

But the reality is that there also needs to be like I said, there needs to be seasons to how aggressive we are and what we're focusing on these respective seasons. And so, whereas they might show up with a weight loss goal, for example, you work with women with thyroid dysfunction, right? And so you might be presented with a woman who is experiencing low thyroid, and she's been consistently under eating for a significant period of time. And perhaps she's been over exercising and she has extremely stressful lifestyle and maybe she doesn't sleep enough and maybe she's got some gut dysbiosis. This probably doesn't sound like a terribly unfamiliar picture for you.

Speaker 2 (13:11):

No, not at all. I would say like 90%,

Speaker 3 (13:15):

The way that right. Exactly. And, and that's often, right. That's, it's why the hypothyroid is present to some degree. Now what we're gonna do is, is, is invariably is we're not just gonna take someone like that. We're gonna say, well, you know what, you're only eating 1200 calories. So let's just, let's just knock you down to a thousand calories, right? Because it's all about calories and calories out that would be illogical. And we would end up further pushing her down you know, down the down the rabbit hole of dysfunction, right? Any good practitioner is gonna look at that list of issues and, and kind of her lifestyle dysfunction and say, you know what, before we go there, bef what we need to do is we need to create balance in the body. And so the first season for her, perhaps the first quarter, or maybe even six months of her program might very well be, you know what?

Speaker 3 (14:09):

We actually need to do everything we can to support your metabolism, to support your thyroid. We need to get you eating more frequently. We need to get you eating more nutrient dense food. We need to get you to understand that carbohydrates are your friend. We need you to get you to sleep more. We need you to get you manage your stress. And so it's really understanding that there's so many nuances to this journey that someone's on to the degree, that by first and foremost, assessing what right, where they are, what their goals are, what their current lifestyle habits look like, what their readiness and commitment level for change are by virtue of then understanding all of those. Then we can come up with a game plan, just like we were training for an event, just like we're training for the Olympics, or the super bowl is to say, we wouldn't expect an athlete to come out and perform at their peak level on day one of training camp.

Speaker 3 (15:02):

We're gonna have to build them up. And so it's that same idea as when we have clients come to us, you know, men and women, mothers, and fathers come to us and they say, you know what? I wanna lose the weight. Well, we need to understand, well, what's gonna be the best for them in the context of their long term goals, say, I'm gonna make sure that when you walk away from this program, not only are you gonna be the leanest that you've ever been at at, at any point, certainly during this program, but you're also gonna be eating the most amount of food you're gonna have the most energy, your hormones are gonna be the most aligned, right. And you're gonna have all of the tools and skills to be able to maintain that for a lifestyle while also understanding that, you know what, the first three months we actually had to get you eating significantly more to help support metabolic function, or maybe we needed to help support lean muscle mass for that period of time, or maybe it was just the holidays.

Speaker 3 (15:57):

And for people that are signing up right now, or maybe signed up, you know, around Thanksgiving, the last thing we're gonna do is diet them down during perhaps the most difficult time of year for anyone to be in a diet. Right? So I think it's, that's the idea around this, what we call nutritional periodization or nutritional seasons or nutritional cycling is understanding that there's gonna be periods where we're gonna diet. Sure, absolutely. Invariably it is necessary to create a calorie deficit if we're looking to lose weight, lose body fat, but it doesn't mean that we don't need to spend periods of time in a growth phase, in a maintenance phase, in a quote unquote metabolic repair phase. Right. It's just understanding that when we project out for however long, the goal is, or however long the journey's gonna look like we need to make sure we're, we're approaching the right things at the right time.

Speaker 2 (16:52):

Yeah. I, I like that. So speak to metabolism because I feel like that is one of the words that's kind of thrown around in health and wellness and can be really confusing for people, especially when especially for women, because I feel like what, what you're kind of speaking into is they're at 1200 calories and they're doctors like, Hey, cut your calories and they're gaining more weight, they're getting more puffy, they're getting more inflamed. So maybe, maybe speak into that a little bit for us.

Speaker 3 (17:27):

Yeah. I appreciate how you, the, the example you just gave, because the way that I like to think about it and the way that I was taught and one of the, one of the mentors I've had throughout my career as Dr. Jade TIDA, who's, who's really brilliant with sort of looking at the metabolism and, and the functions of the metabolism, but essentially what we're talking about is a stress barometer. Mm-Hmm right. And so when we do things that are stressing, the body out is the body's gonna respond in certain way. Now this has to do with our body temperature. It has to do with our ability to, to burn body fat. It has to do with our gut health. It has to do with our blood sugar regulation. It has to do with our weight and how we are manipulating fluids on a daily basis.

Speaker 3 (18:13):

All of these things come from our brain function from our get health function. And I would say that all of these work together to create this quote unquote this metabolism, this, this stress barometer. And so one of the things to understand is when we push on the metabolism, when we go out and we do a, a a spin class, when we go do a boot camp a boot camp workout class or something, that's really high intensity our body's gonna respond because you know, we're obviously gonna burn some calories during this workout, but what we don't, what we don't acknowledge in the realm of exercise is that the metabolism is gonna push back to the degree that what the body really cares about is survival, right? It cares about maintaining blood sugar levels. It cares about maintaining body temperature. It cares about procreation and keeping you alive.

Speaker 3 (19:06):

Now, when we go and do things that are stressful on the body. So it's not just exercise, but it's also under reading is a, is a stressor on the body, just our daily lifestyle, being surrounded by cam you know computers and phones and the news and the kids yelling, right, and waking us up early and all of our financial obligations and work. These are all stressors that put us into this, this level of sympathetic nervous system overload, which in and of itself is a major stressor, but what's important to understand is the body has an adaptive and sort of reactive response to all of these things, because it cares about survival. So when we push one way, it has a very unique and complex system for pushing back the other way, right? To the degree that when we go and do that boot camp, high intensity, you know, huffing and puffing and sweating and in a puddle of sweat just done.

Speaker 3 (19:59):

So after the workout that we think is so great for us, well, what we know now from the research is that one of the, and actually a couple of the unique mechanisms that the body undergoes is almost a down regulation of metabolic function, right? To the degree that we can suppress our meat, which is our non-exercise activity thermogenesis. So basically all that means Shannon is that when we go do stuff that burns a lot of calories, depending on what it is that we're doing, our body has the ability to say, you know what, dude, we don't know how we're gonna, if we're gonna be taking in enough calories later on, we're gonna make you slow down, right? We're gonna make you more tired and we're gonna make you more lethargic. We're gonna make you less likely to just fidget and Twitch and, and, and want to get up and, and go to the refrigerator or, or fill up your water cup or go over to the water cooler or whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:54):

And not only that is, we may actually make you hungrier by a virtue of the calories that you just expended, right. To the degree that you might crave more foods. And, and what we see from the research is that when we do these types of high intensity exercise most people end up making up those calories and then some throughout the rest of the day and or throughout the rest of the week. So that's one small example of the metabolism at work. But essentially that's what we're talking about is, is just this highly dynamic reactive mechanism that helps the keep the body in homeostasis. Hmm. Right. Does, does that answer your question?

Speaker 2 (21:37):

Yeah, absolutely. And part of my reason for asking this, and I I've talked about this multiple times on the podcast and then, you know, webinars and things. I, one of the big mistakes that I made early on was I was trying to lose the weight and I wi I did all the things that you're supposed to do. I went to the gym, I hired a personal trainer. I was in the gym five days a week. I was cutting calories. And that first month when we're taking measurements and doing weight and checking in, and I gained 10 pounds, I gained inches . And I was like,

Speaker 3 (22:14):

Interesting,

Speaker 2 (22:15):

What is going on with me? And that was the big clue for me that my hormones were way off balance. And I remember my personal trainer, he is a guy probably didn't know much about women's hormones. at no offense to him. But he was like, well, you didn't go up that much. And I'm thinking 10 pounds, no wonder my clothes are fitting terribly.

Speaker 3 (22:39):

You'd have been devastated. Had you gone up two pounds, especially after all that hard work. And I think it's a perfect example, not to interrupt you, but I think it's a perfect example of how the body pushes back against stress mm-hmm and understanding that it's not always about just reducing your calorie intake. And it's certainly not always about ramping up your exercise and sometimes doing the two of those simultaneously, depending on where you're at, especially if it's like postpartum, when you already have enough stress to deal with, and your body's recovering can create can, can just create a cascade as you're experiencing of issues of inflammation, of suppressed thyroid function, suppressed what we call metabolic compensation, or sort of metabolic down regulation if you will.

Speaker 2 (23:26):

Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly what I was experiencing at that time. And you did talk about briefly about the adrenal portion. And so for me, after having that experience, I went, whoa. Something is way, way off. And I went in, started having hormones tested, and my cortisol was super, super low. It was very, very low. It was, I was kind of in that burnout phase,

Speaker 3 (23:52):

You would, did salivary salivary cortisol.

Speaker 2 (23:55):

I did. Yes.

Speaker 3 (23:56):

Yeah. So you were in like a stage three or like at all the way down. Yeah. Past the level where you you'd experienced periods of high cortisol almost in this, as you said, burnout stage.

Speaker 2 (24:07):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was at it. Most people probably won't understand what this means. You probably will. I was at 0.02, so I was like nothing. So , it was a very fun time for me. And I had to really do a lot of like what you're talking about, changing my diet, going back to just walking for movement, you know? Yes. And hitting that nutritional season to get further ahead,

Speaker 3 (24:39):

Of actually feeling yourself, giving yourself the right nutrition, allowing your body to stay in a parasympathetic or a, a rest and digest phase to mitigate the amount of sympathetic stressors so that you can recover so that your adrenals can recover so that your blood sugar can recover. Right. So you can drive the nutrients, improve gut health, right. Brain function, and sort of that whole hypothalamus, pituitary access reset if you will. Yeah. Mm-Hmm . Yeah. And that's what most people don't understand is we, they just think, okay, well, look, we're coming up on the new year. Okay. It's time to diet. It's time to grind it. It start over exercising. And it's really just for a lot of people it's backing 'em into a corner because they're already in a state of, of sympathetic overload. So one of the things we do with in, in our, in our coaching program is, is we actually don't even start with structured exercise, structured strength training.

Speaker 3 (25:31):

We just start with observing nutritional habits, lifestyle factors, and walking. And it, it doesn't even matter. I mean, we have people that are in, are already coming in, in great shape. But the reality is that most people are in some level of, of stress overload. And, and, and then also, as I was alluding to in explaining the metabolism is exercise is not a good driver of weight loss. Mm-Hmm , we already understand that very clearly from the research. And so it, it would be illogic for us to just blast someone, even though people want it, like they think they wanna go in and, and start doing all of the things, all of the exercise, but who would be iLogic and, and unreasonable and irresponsible for us to do that. Instead as we know the big needle movers for people, whether they understand it or not, and whether they're resistant to it or not, it's gonna be, you know, what, let's figure out where your calories are. Let's figure out what your lifestyles are, and let's identify the low hanging fruit. Maybe we just need to move more right from walking. Maybe we just need to drink more water. We need to get better nutrition in manage your calories more effectively and give you the opportunity to actually de-stress before we go into the season of, okay, let's, you know, start driving the strength training.

Speaker 2 (26:43):

Yeah. I, I really appreciate this. So for the way that you work with people is you mentioned something about kind of evaluating where people are at before diving into a whole plan. So give us a little bit of idea as to like, how do you get a baseline for people

Speaker 3 (27:02):

Mm-Hmm yeah, we I've developed a whole process called what I call the pure science proven results process, which is a very clear cut methodo excuse me, methodical system that we put together over the last several years by virtue of frankly spending years and years, not getting people the results that they deserve and learning the hard way of saying, okay, we did this, we did the 30 day fast tracks. We did the detoxes. We did the, the 12 week plan. So not all of our coaching programs are minimum of six months. And most clients stay on for at least a year again, because we're identifying that there's gotta be seasons to change, but the way that we understand what someone's really gonna need is by doing a complex and in depth assessment. And, and so through this process, through this pure science proven results process, we collect data, both objective and subjective data Shannon.

Speaker 3 (27:52):

And so what that looks like is really very simply it's like, Hey, can you track your calories for a couple weeks? Just so we have an understanding of how much you're taking in, because, you know, we understand that one is when you are tracking, you are going to make better decisions. Yeah. Right. So you've already got built in accountability right there. You're already like, Hmm, probably shouldn't have that second glass of wine. I probably shouldn't grab that second handful of M and Ms or whatever. Right. And secondly, is that you are creating more awareness by virtue of the process you're starting to acknowledge. Wow. I didn't realize like how many calories wine was. I didn't realize that, you know, the, the butter on my toast in conjunction with the orange juice in conjunction with the, the pastry that I have every morning ends up being 700 calories.

Speaker 3 (28:45):

Right? Yeah. So we're giving you the opportunity and the autonomy to start to identify some needle movers on your own to allow you to start to make better decisions. In addition to calories, we track steps. We track hours of sleep. And then we, we, we do, depending on what someone's goals are, we wanna know what's going on with weight on a daily basis. And what's going on with circumference measurements every couple weeks. Because as you know, and as we know, based on the metabolism and how the body functions is, it's always in regulation, it's always trying to maintain homeostasis and there's always levels of, of fluctuations around fluid. So if, and when you do weigh yourself I'm sure as, as, as yourself and plenty of your female clients have observed that if they've ever weighed themselves on a daily basis you're gonna see that weight constantly fluctuating, right?

Speaker 3 (29:38):

Yeah. And, and that's for a myriad of reasons having to do with certainly not only fat loss, but having to do with menstrual cycle, having to do with carbohydrated intake, having to do with salt, alcohol intake previous food, sensitivities, food sensitivities, thank you, stress levels all of those types of things. And so we find that that's a very good metric. It's not the end all be all, but it's one good objective metric for us to keep an eye on, to help the individuals start to become their own best nutrition detective, to understand, you know, what, every time I eat that spaghetti sauce, the, the scales up a couple pounds. Isn't that interesting? I don't know if it means anything, but it's certainly an interesting observation. And then subjectively is what we call biofeedback things like hunger, energy, cravings, mood, libido, digestion, cognitive function, right.

Speaker 3 (30:30):

If we're talking about thyroid, this is everything. These are all of the things that our hormones are going to influence. So we need to understand that one of the things that we see frequently, Shannon is by virtue of giving someone the opportunity to actually de-stress to say, you know what? We're just not gonna worry about tructure to exercise right now. I just want you to walk. I just want you to drink water. I just want you to maybe eat three square meals a day or four square meals a day. One of the things we see, especially with women like your clients, is we start to see that hunger starts to come back, you know, whereas they might have been like, you know, I just never hungry for breakfast. Like I just wait till 10 or 11 or 12, and cuz I'm running around with the kids and, and I'm just not hungry.

Speaker 3 (31:20):

And then one of the things we start to see is, you know what, I'm starting to identify that I'm experiencing hunger mm-hmm . And despite the fact that the scale's not moving, we're actually starting to see that body composition is changing. You're perhaps becoming less inflamed, retaining less fluids, retaining less water. You're starting to have more energy. You're starting to think more clearly sleep quality is improving. Libido's starting to come back, right? These are all fantastic signs that the body's actually starting to heal and, and, and respond effectively from this process. And so this is what we call kind of part of our onboarding or calibration period, right. Where we're just getting an idea, Shannon of what you typically do right throughout the first few weeks of the program by, and then based on that, then we can make informed decisions around, okay, what's gonna be the biggest needle mover that we can plug in with the least amount of resistance.

Speaker 3 (32:16):

You're a busy mom of soon to be four, right? Yeah. For me to say, Hey, Shaheen, I need you to eat six meals a day and I need you to hit, you know, 170 grams of protein a day. And you'd be like, I don't know what your current habits look like. But the point is, is say there's no cookie cutter approach. It's like, we need to understand what your lifestyle, what your eating habits look like, so that we can start to plug things in that are gonna be easy for you to, to plug in consistently.

Speaker 2 (32:47):

Yeah. I remember working with a naturalpathic doctor and he kind of did something similar to you where he is like, I need you to do all of these things. And I just looked at him and I was like, I, there's no way, like I had three kids five and under, and I was like, I'm gonna need a full time. Live-In nanny and a housekeeper to try to do this thing. And I'm already running on fumes, you know, that's it. And we have a similar process where when our clients come in, we evaluate, you know, very similar, how your sleep, how are your bowel movements? Yeah. How stress levels, what are you eating? How frequently are you eating? What types of things are you eating? and then like you said, Hey, some of the women that are coming in to work with us, aren't even eating, you know, let's say three servings of vegetables. Mm-Hmm , that might be an easy thing to change and incorporate just, just a little bit more veggies, first thing in the morning or whatever it is. And that will make yeah. A big impact, you know,

Speaker 3 (33:54):

A hundred percent. So I that's, it, it, it love it. It's just so important to meet someone where they are, I've been doing this long enough. And it it's interesting because when I first figured out what was going on with me and, and I'm sure you've been down this road, but it's like, you have the, you know, golden ticket. It's like, I know what to do. I fixed myself. Therefore, this is what should work for everyone. And to be clear, I was like a hundred percent gluten free, a hundred percent dairy free paleo, like, you know, and so I'm sitting here preaching this to new clients. I'm like, you gotta eliminate we're, I'm gonna come over. We're gonna clear out the cabinets. And people are just like, whoa, whoa. Like this is overwhelming. Right. And I'm like, yep. Well, and then I would lose. And then they would, you know, I wouldn't hear from 'em again. And I'm like, well, they clearly were not committed enough to the process. When in reality it was a hundred percent my fault for not understanding the psychology of how people really actually change.

Speaker 2 (34:51):

Yeah. Yeah. The I can relate to that so much where I was gluten free, dairy free for five years, a hundred percent, you know, it very similar to you, paleo. That was kind of the big thing at the time when I started my journey, when I started my journey. And then I got to the point where I was like, this sucks, like sucks. I even hate this. Yeah. You know, and having to shift a little bit and find you know, just a happy medium where I felt like I was supporting my body and I was happy with the things that I was doing and I wasn't burning myself out. And you know, all of, all of those wonderful things. Yeah. In kind of like in starting to wrap this up, then what are some great places for these women to start? If they're struggling, you know, just maybe getting motivated or, you know, restoring their mm-hmm, their metabolism,

Speaker 3 (35:50):

You know what, Shannon, I think that it's really, really important for someone to identify what they really want and why they want it not to get too meta or or anything. But I, I, what I've experienced in, in having hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of conversations over the years is I, I just don't know that people are very clear on exactly what it is that they want and why they want it. And oftentimes we have conversations around, well, I wanna feel better and I wanna look better and I wanna lose weight and I wanna be stronger and I wanna have more muscle mass. And I wanna do all of the things and I wanna run a half marathon and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. In coming back to this idea of seasons, it's like, there certainly is a season for all of those things.

Speaker 3 (36:35):

There's a season for performing at your best and looking your best and feeling your best. But perhaps it would be reasonable to acknowledge that maybe you, it's not necessary to do all of those things at once, right? Because truly, if we're talking about being at our optimal health, then maybe it's not gonna be advantageous for you to be the leanest that you've ever been at any time during your life. Similarly, is if we wanna perform well, then maybe it's not gonna be, you know, you know, for you to perform at your best. Maybe you're just not gonna be the healthiest version of yourself. And so I guess it really comes down to what someone really wants and then giving themselves permission to be okay with, you know, what, I just wanna feel better. I wanna have more energy. I wanna get my libido back. I wanna start to have some consistent bowel movements.

Speaker 3 (37:26):

I wanna be able to think clearly I wanna be present and set a good example for my kids. In which case, how important is it for me to be beach, body lean mm-hmm . And, and perhaps I could absolve myself of, of the stress and guilt and responsibility that I'm putting on myself to try and do all of the things at once. And instead just say, you know what, for this season of my life, I'm going to eat the food and I'm gonna be okay with being a little bit heavier on the scale than I'd ideally like to be, because I know that this is setting the foundation and the precedent for really how I wanna feel in perpetuity. And then once you've taken the time to do that and acknowledge the things that are going to move that needle well, then it it's, it's liberating, right?

Speaker 3 (38:15):

To the degree that then you can say, okay, now that I've been in sort of this quote unquote maintenance mode, and I've enjoyed myself and, and absol again, absolved myself of that ROS responsibility and guilt of not always trying to be the leanest ever I can actually identify and say, you know what? I feel pretty good to know that I didn't stress myself out over all of this stuff. And then if, and when the opportunity arises, then you can shift the focus. So I think it all comes down to always setting some realistic expectations. And then really just focusing on the things that you can actually control that are gonna help you work towards said set goal.

Speaker 2 (39:00):

Yeah. I, I really appreciate this in the context of setting, setting your goals and your intentions and your why as to what you're doing. Mm-Hmm because that will keep people more focused, because like you were saying, you work with people for six months to a year, that's a long time to commit to something. And if you have a clear goal and direction at the end, that's gonna keep you motivated because things are gonna get hard. Things are gonna get uncomfortable. You might , you know, the scale might go up and then down and then go back up again because the body is changing and we have to, we have to work through those seasons and make those adjustments as the, as the body adjusts to re repairing your metabolism or whatever it is. Yeah. So I love that. Where can people find you? And I know you do have a a gift or a freebie for everybody. So if you wanna tell 'em about that, that would be fine

Speaker 3 (40:01):

Too. Yes. absolutely. So our website, so we're, we're on social media, on the, all of the social media at BSL nutrition. I'd say we're probably most active on Instagram. So come on over and gimme a follow there. I try and provide as much value as possible. We've also got a free nutrition community. It's what is it? Smart nutrition made simple.com. That's our free Facebook nutrition community. So come on over there, we've got an incredible group of people. I'd love to see you in there. Shannon. And and then I've got a podcast that is the smart nutrition made simple show. So you can see the recurring theme here. Yeah. and then let's see our, our freebie, if I can remember correctly, I believe that's,

Speaker 2 (40:56):

It's just fat

Speaker 3 (40:56):

Loss, fat loss fix guide. Yeah. And I think it's fat loss fix guide.com and that's a, a pretty easy to digest guide, no pun intended around your meal frequency and how many numbers of meal, or how many meals per day you should be eating. Kind of, I've got like my favorite morning energizing smoothie in there all based on science. And so it's got a number of, of really good kind of clinical pearls that someone can read through in, in, in just you know, 15 or 20 minutes, take some good gems from it and be able to implement immediately. So you can head, you can download that for free at, at fat loss, fix guide.com.

Speaker 2 (41:37):

Perfect. And we will have all of this linked up in the show notes for you guys. Thank you, Ben, for being on, I really appreciate this conversation. And I think you lended a lot of good insight to these women from a different perspective, right? Cause I I'm a woman and, you know, hearing it from a man I think is sometimes also really good

Speaker 3 (41:59):

So, you know what, I'm, I'm always happy to, to talk shop and I, I'm very grateful and appreciative for, for you having me on and also to appreciative to have people like you out there helping, helping PI people alike.

Speaker 2 (42:11):

Yeah. All right, guys, we'll see you on the next,

Speaker 1 (42:15):

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