Susan talks with Catherine Prescott about the fascinating world of portrait painting and the intellectual and spiritual tensions that reside in the work. For more of Catherine's art, see her personal website.

Check out Catherine's recent Upper House talk, as well as the sessions by Alex Miranda, Wayne Roosa, and Asher Imtiaz.

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Credits: music by Micah Behr, audio engineering by Andy Johnson, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.