Til Death Do Us Part

Til Death Do Us Part

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  • Episode 42: The Lunchtime Killer of New Jersey, Kenneth Saal

    Natalia caters to all the murder junkie tastes with this (never-covered-until-now!) 2019 murder case of the Lunchtime Killer of NJ: Kenneth Saal.

    This is MORE than your typical stalker story! A man obsessed enough to make a copy of house keys? Check. Spy cameras? Yes. A plot from jail for a copycat murder?! We're gonna tell you about it. Also, does anyone know if chewing gum will give you a more defined jawline? Send us a message on the socials!


    Sources

    Vogt, Erin. “Plainsboro, NJ 'Lunch Break' Killer Admits to Stalking, Murder, Cover-up Plot.” New Jersey 101.5, NJ Radio 101.5 FM, 2 Nov. 2022, https://nj1015.com/plainsboro-nj-lunch-break-killer-kenneth-saal-admits-to-stalking-murder-carolyn-byington-murder-for-hire-plot/.

    Cleary, Tom. “Kenneth Saal: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know.” Heavy.com, 22 Aug. 2019, https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/kenneth-saal/.

    “N.J. Man Gets 55 Years for Killing Co-Worker at Her Apartment While She Was on Lunch Break.” Edited by Daily Truecrime, NewsBreak, NewsBreak Original, 30 Jan. 2023, https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2908389494260-n-j-man-gets-55-years-for-killing-co-worker-at-her-apartment-while-she-was-on-lunch-break.

    Russell, Suzanne. “'I'm Sorry Every Day for My Choices': South Jersey Man Gets 55 Years in Murder of Plainsboro Co-Worker.” Courier News, MyCentralJersey.com, 24 Jan. 2023, https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/2023/01/23/south-jersey-man-gets-55-years-in-murder-of-plainsboro-co-worker/69826425007/.

    McCarthy, Craig, et al. “Kenneth Saal Hired Attorney before Being Suspected in Carolyn Byington's Murder.” New York Post, New York Post, 23 Aug. 2019, https://nypost.com/2019/08/23/kenneth-saal-hired-attorney-before-being-suspected-in-carolyn-byingtons-murder/.

    Smith, Jennifer. “Married Father Charged with Killing Coworker Hired an Attorney before Police Named Him as a Suspect .” Daily Mail Online, Associated Newspapers, 23 Aug. 2019, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7388949/Married-father-charged-killing-coworker-hired-attorney-police-named-suspect.html.

    Link to police interview Saal gave nine days after murder: https://twitter.com/AvalonZoppo/status/1167511539710119938?s=20

    Attrino , Anthony  G. “N.J. Man Admits He Murdered Co-Worker in Her Apartment When She Went Home for Lunch.” NJ.com, NJ Advance Media, 3 Nov. 2022, https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2022/11/nj-man-admits-he-murdered-co-worker-in-her-apartment-when-she-went-home-for-lunch.html.

    Jenna , Wise. “Accused Lunch Break Killer Visited Co-Worker's Apartment Complex before and after Killing, Prosecutors Say.” NJ.com, NJ Advance Media , 24 Oct. 2019, https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2019/10/accused-lunch-break-killer-visited-co-workers-apartment-before-and-after-killing-prosecutors-say.html.
    Link to Donate to Carolyn’s Cause for Children’s Brain Tumors: https://www.childrensbraintumorproject.org/2020/05/08/carolyn-byington/

    38 min
  • Episode 41: Short Stories

    We cover several stories today from High School Imposters and a cold case getting resurfaced. The mysterious disappearance of Ada Haradine from Elkhart, IN in the 1980's. Have you heard of this story? You can share what you know below:


    You can make an anonymous tip by calling (574)288-STOP

    Or call Dave Gizzi at the Elkhart County Prosecutors Office: (574)296-1897



    Want to share your story?


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    Sources:

    https://wsbt.com/news/local/cold-case-files-the-mysterious-disappearance-and-murder-of-ada-haradine

    https://people.com/crime/texas-man-arrested-after-posing-high-school-student/

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/29-old-scientist-posed-teen-203320414.html

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-34-accused-posing-high-school-student-months/story?id=23733214

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2634593-69-high-school-basketball-player-who-may-actually-be-30-years-old-arrested#:~:text=At%206'9%22%20and%20202,put%20his%20dominance%20into%20perspective.

    48 min
  • Episode 40: Franklin Delano Floyd

    Where to begin? Franklin Floyd had a tough start to life and tore down everyone's life around him. From multiple aliases, kidnapping to marrying his daughter? It's all true. Listen to the episode to find out who Tanya Hughes really was and how she ended up with the monster, Franklin.

    Sources: 

    1. Girl in the Picture, documentary Netlix

    2. Pinellas death row prisoner, focus of Netflix’s ‘Girl in the Picture,’ dies

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/pinellas/2023/01/31/franklin-floyd-netflix-girl-in-the-picture-florida-death-row/#:~:text=Franklin%20Delano%20Floyd%20was%20sentenced,this%20month%20of%20natural%20causes.

    3. The book A Beautiful Child by investigative journalist Matt Birkbeck was published in 2004

    4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Delano_Floyd



    Want to share your story?


    Keep in touch with us!

    Instagram: @tildeathdouspartpodcast

    Twitter: @tdduppodcast

    TikTok: @tildeathdouspartpod


    The best ways you can support us is to listen, like and review! 

    1 hr 4 min
  • Episode 39: Anthony Templet - "I Just Killed My Dad"

    On the surface, the case seems so simple: a young man shot his father in the mist of an argument. He called 911 and without any emotion said the chilling words, "I just killed my dad." 

    It wasn't simple at all. Natalia tells us the story this week of Anthony Templet from the Netflix documentary 'I Just Killed my Dad' and how he ended up an example of how justice should look carefully at all the circumstances before judging someone guilty of a crime. This story has so many unexpected twists that will change everything you think you know about the boy holding the gun, and it isn't just abuse. 

    Stephanie and Natalia also discuss clothing tags, ski daddies, and the real life Duttons! 

    Trigger warnings for the usual, plus: filthy language, gun violence, youth perpetrated violence, child abuse, and child abduction

    Sources

    Borgman, Skye. I Just Killed My Dad, Netflix, 2022.

    Mitchell, Molli. “What Happened to Anthony Templet and Where Is He Now?” Newsweek, Newsweek, 9 Aug. 2022, https://www.newsweek.com/what-happened-anthony-templet-where-he-now-today-prison-i-just-killed-my-dad-1732119.

    Laura, Martin. “The True Dark Story of the Murder in 'I Just Killed My Dad', and Anthony Templet's Involvement.” Edited by The Esquire Editors, Esquire, Esquire, 16 Aug. 2022, https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a40816255/i-just-killed-my-dad-true-story-murder-of-anthony-templet/.

    “Family Says Baton Rouge Teen Who Killed Father Went Missing 11 Years Ago.” Edited by WAFB Staff, Https://Www.wafb.com, 24 June 2019, https://www.wafb.com/2019/06/24/family-says-baton-rouge-teen-who-killed-father-went-missing-years-ago/.

    Fundraiser hosted by Jarrett Ambeau for Anthony: https://www.gofundme.com/f/assistance-for-anthony-templet

    King, Anna. Ghost Herd, Season Ghost Herd, episode Podcast , KUOW, 2023, https://open.spotify.com/show/06rkAt1yGIZ3NwjAI2LDie?si=bdf9aa909a574a36. Accessed 28 Feb. 2023. Ghost Herd, the Podcast

    40 min
  • Episode 38 - The Lundy Family Murders

    If Mark Lundy was charged for this crime in the courts of popularity he'd be guilty and locked away ten times over. He's not the kind of guy who wins over anyone's heart. But does that mean there's sufficient evidence to prove he committed this terrible double homicide? Follow us to New Zealand in 2000, and we'll try to figure this one out together. 


    SOURCES

    “New Zealand Official Yearbook 2000.” Edited by NZ Statistics, /New_Zealand_Official_Yearbooks/, 2000, https://www3.stats.govt.nz/New_Zealand_Official_Yearbooks/.

    Peter, Wilson J. “New Zealand.” Countries and Their Cultures, 1997, https://www.everyculture.com/Ma-Ni/New-Zealand.html.

    “7 Things New Zealand Is Famous For.” Edited by Chris Cameron, The Road Trip New Zealand, NZ Road Trips & Self-Drive Tours, 14 Mar. 2018, https://www.theroadtrip.co.nz/7-things-new-zealand-famous/.

    White, Mike. “The Lundy Murders, 20 Years On.” Stuffnews, Stuff National News, 29 Aug. 2020, https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/122579888/the-lundy-murders-20-years-on.

    Lundy, Sharon. “The Horror of the Lundy Trial.” RNZ, Radio New Zealand , 1 Apr. 2015, https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/270172/the-horror-of-the-lundy-trial.

    “Mark Edward Lundy.” Edited by Juan Ignacio Blanco, Murderpedia, the Encyclopedia of Murderers, Murderpedia, 31 July 2002, https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/lundy-mark.htm.

    Mitchell, Mark. “Parole Denied: Mark Lundy to Remain behind Bars 22 Years after Killing His Wife and Daughter.” NZ Herald, NZ Herald, 18 Aug. 2022, https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/parole-denied-mark-lundy-to-remain-behind-bars-22-years-after-killing-his-wife-and-daughter/X7ADEFHQH4XPLTCNZMCRAKCFMM/.

    Web, The World Wide. “Lundy Murders.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 23 Dec. 2022, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lundy_murders.

    55 min
  • Episode 37: The Murder of Kelly Anne Bates
    Hey PodFam! This week Stephanie was roadtripping and stopped in Chicago. Before stopping she asked her brother, Sam, if he wanted to record an episode. Jumping at the opportunity Stephanie met with her brother and only asked him one question before recording. Do you want a story that is light hearted or gory? Sam chose GORY and Stephanie delivered. Sam asked and Stephanie did NOT disappoint.
    This is a relatively unknown case from the UK in the mid 1990's. Despite its horrific details the event did not get much press because of the timing - the same weeks and months Kelly Anne Bates's story came to light the late Princess Diana of Wales was tragically killed, taking the world's attention. Not saying any life is more important than the latter, this is just the history of 1997. 
    Sam is the lead singer and guitarist in the band XYZXYZ. Their music can be found where ever you download your music (Napster and Limewire). They are on Facebook, Instagram, and have shows playing throughout the Chicago areas. Check them out and love them, or else. 
    Instagram: @xyzxyz.band
    48 min
  • Episode 36 - The Murder of Danielle Van Dam

    We're not making this up: another little girl is snatched right out of her room in the middle of the night, this time in 2002. Natalia takes us through the rollercoaster disappearance and most OUTRAGEOUS trial tactics we've ever heard a defense attorney use so far. Keep the lights on kids and lock all your windows - nobody is safe. 


    SOURCES

    Pery, Tony. “Van Dams' Sex Life Aired.” Los Angeles Times, LA Times, 6 June 2002, https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-jun-06-me-girl6-story.html.

    Blanco, Juan Ignacio. “David Westerfield: Photos: Murderpedia, the Encyclopedia of Murderers.” David Westerfield | Photos | Murderpedia, the Encyclopedia of Murderers, 24 Aug. 2012, https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/westerfield-david-photos.htm.

    Dickey, Fred. “How Detective Mo Parga Pinpointed Danielle Nicole Van Dam's Killer.” The San Diego Union-Tribune, 30 Apr. 2017, https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/columnists/sd-me-dickey-column-0501-story.html.

    Allenbaugh, Mark. “Patents, Pedophilia, and Punishment.” Findlaw, 23 Sept. 2002, https://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/patents-pedophilia-and-punishment.html.

    “Westerfield Guilty of Danielle Van Dam's Murder.” Edited by CNN No author listed, CNN, Cable News Network, 27 Aug. 2002, http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/08/21/westerfield.trial/.

    53 min
  • Episode 35: Francis Glessner Lee

    Great minds think alike! I did NOT share what my episode was on yet somehow, Natalia got a book on forensic sciences the SAME time I tell everyone about the Grandmother who started it all!

    The short version: A grandmother with a taste for the macabre loves doing crafts.

    Long version: A woman fought her whole life to accomplish standardized methods of practice from the ground up. Even though women were not allowed at Harvard, she paved her OWN way to the top of the medical departments. She was smart, passionate and worked to make sure police had the tools they needed on an investigation. Then, we discuss her dollhouse dioramas that depict actual scenes of death. They we created in the early 1900's but they are so detailed, so GOOD they are still on display and used in her seminars almost 100 years later. 

    45 min
  • Episode 34 - Three Strikes Law and the Murder of Polly Klaas

    SOURCES

    A New Legacy - Podcast by Polly's sister: https://open.spotify.com/show/76E3r9JpLuL5hr3jFKWOFY?si=57244163aa1d4fe0

    The Amazing Internet, Wikipedia. “Murder of Polly Klaas.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 21 Jan. 2023, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Polly_Klaas#Aftermath_and_legacy.

    “Three Strikes.” Edited by Nicole McCarthy, Et Al. Cornell Law School, Legal Information Institute, WEX Definitions Team, Sept. 2021, https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/three_strikes#:~:text=Three%20strikes%2C%20or%20three%2Dstrikes,third%20violation%20of%20violent%20felonies.

    George, Evan. “Prop 36 and How California's 'Three Strikes' Law Came to Be.” KCRW, KCRW, 24 Oct. 2012, https://www.kcrw.com/news/articles/prop-36-and-how-californias-three-strikes-law-came-to-be.

    Levin, Sam. “Polly Klaas's Murder Fueled the 90s Crime Panic. Her Sisters Fear 'We're Repeating History'.” The Guardian, Guardian News and Media, 22 Oct. 2022, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/22/polly-klaas-sisters-criminal-justice-mass-incarceration.

    “Polly Klaas' Killer Survives Opiate Overdose on Death Row.” Edited by Associated Press, 3 Strikes Stops Repeat Offenders, 25 July 2006, http://threestrikes.org/polly-klaas-killer-survives-opiate-overdose-on-death-row/.

    The World Wide Web, Wikipedia. “Richard Allen Davis.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 23 Jan. 2023, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis.

    “Richard Allen Davis.” Edited by Wikipedia Criminal Minds, Criminal Minds Wiki, 2022, https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis.

    Blanco, Juan Ignacio. “Richard Allen Davis: Murderpedia, the Encyclopedia of Murderers.” Richard Allen Davis | Murderpedia, the Encyclopedia of Murderers, 2022, https://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/davis-richard-allen.htm.

    Edited by Eve Reed, The Polly Klaas Foundation, 23 Feb. 2022, https://www.pollyklaas.org/.

    Schiraldi, Vincent, et al. “Three Strikes and You're Out, An Examination of the Impact of Three-Strike Laws.” Justice Policy Institute, 2003, https://justicepolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/04-09_rep_threestrikesnatl_ac.pdf.pdf.

    1 hr 10 min
  • Episode 33: Joel Guy Jr.

    What an ungrateful son did to his family after a Holiday weekend. Joel Guy Jr. relied on his parents support and when that was going to be taken away, Joel Guy Jr. took matters into his own hands.

    This may be a short episode this week - but we are back next week with a 2 parter! Cannot wait for you all to hear it!

    Sources:

    • Let’s Read Podcast episode “I saw him through night vision” January 10, 2023.
    • https://allthatsinteresting.com/joel-guy-jr January 6, 2023
    • https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Diabolical-Stew-of-Human-Remains-The-Dismemberment-Murder-of-Joel-and-Lisa-Guy this has images of notebook and inside the family home, including crime scene photos
    • Wikipedia
    • 34 min

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