After the recording with our guests, TingTing and KaKa stayed online to reflect on our learnings. 

This clip is after our recording with the guests. Topics include: self-worth, acceptance and happiness.

As life become busier and busier with the start of the new year, TingTing and KaKa began to question:

To answer these questions, we bravely invited 2 friends from our professional world to explore this topic.

=== Introducing our guest ===

Alanna La Cioppa

Alanna and Tingting clicked through laughters and being almost "absurdly" happy in the office. Alanna is a lawyer, yoga teacher and currently work in change management. Her stories about life, death and purpose brought her a unique understanding on the topic of work life balance. 

Follow Alanna on Instagram @alignedbyalanna or her website www.alignedbyalanna.com

Kiet Truong

Kiet is KaKa’s colleague and friend. As a senior manager from one of the big four consultancy and a father of 2 young children, he seems to have a secret recipe to balance everything and remain calm.

===Join Us===

We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com!

===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s ==

While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers.

This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones.

As Tingting embarks on her creator journey full-time and Kaka strives to grow her side jewelry business, we became curious about:

To answer these questions, we invited 2 friends who are business owners.

=== Introducing our guest ===

Issa He

Issa is a return guest from Season 1 Episode 3 and she was KaKa's teacher in interpretation. She started her language service business 7 years ago, specializing in legal, commercial, and art translation. And she is also the host of the Silent Reading Club which is a great community for all book lovers!

Sarah Cong

Sarah is a born entrepreneur and the founder of Cottonly -- luxury pure cotton wipes that cares for your skin. She had previously worked at the world's top luxury corporation, took on multiple ventures in her early 20s, and danced K-Pop with Tingting. 

===Join Us===

We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com!

===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s ==

While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers.

This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones.

Despite living miles away from our birth country -- China, we are curious about:

To answer these questions, we invited 2 friends who've experienced both sides but made different choices.

=== Introducing our guest ===

Ge Qu

Having lived in China, the USA and Canada, Ge (pronounced as gəː) is a deep thinker and explorer. On the first day of secondary school in China, Tingting sneakily stood next to Ge as she ranked number 1 in the entrance exam. Luckily the friendship matured beyond grade and status in the next 10 years, during which Tingting moved to Australia and Ge completed university in China then pursued further study at the University of Pennsylvania. 

Ge is now working in China and faces the unique challenge of a 'haigui' or 海龟 (sea turtle) meaning “return from abroad.”

Wendy Bai

Wendy Bai is a good friend and trusty advisor of KaKa. They get to know each other through work and then the friendship grew rapidly from all the common value and interests.  Wendy has a very impressive resume in both China and Australia. 

She graduated from one of the elite universities in China. 

Subsequently, she went to work for some of the most iconic global companies. In early 2010, she left her comfort zone and built her own tech start-up. About 6 years ago, she made another courage move to bring her family, career and dream to Australia. 

===Join Us===

We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com!

===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s ==

While we adjust to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers.

This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones.

Money money money - Isn't money the ultimate reason for working? 

In this episode, we unfold the stories we held about money - from childhood to the first job, to balancing money and life, to making decisions about our futures.

===Introducing our guests===

Guest 1: Michael Ko

Introducing Tingting's friend and husband - Michael Ko, making his first presence in the podcast! Michael is a personal finance and investment educator on YouTube. In his spare time, he teaches people how to gain financial independence via his YouTube Channel 'Michael Ko' and blog WalletLab.com.au.

Guest 2: Summer Chen

Introducing KaKa's friend and business partner - Summer Chen! Summer is the finance brain behind the jewelry brand Minco.Life which Summer and KaKa co-created! A master of multi-tasking - While Summer works full-time in the finance and strategy space, she is also an influencer on Red (a Chinese social media platform) providing personal development advice!

===Join Us===

We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com!

===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s ==

While we were adjusting to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers.

This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues, and loved ones.

==Other Nuggets==

【Podcast】得意忘形： #45我们与钱的关系： https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/45-%E6%88%91%E4%BB%AC%E4%B8%8E%E9%92%B1%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%9D%E7%A6%BB/id1200767928?i=1000409615186 （KaKa's favourite host is the guest ）

【Book】The Psychology of Money: Timeless Lessons on Wealth, Greed, and Happiness, Morgan Housel 

This episode touches a topic that is so intimate, yet easily forgotten.

=== Introducing our guest ===

Gary Teh

Our guest and peer mentor is Gary Teh. We thought of Gary because he seems to have figured everything out -- working for his dream job (one of the top global technology companies), living a fulfilled life with many hobbies such as cycling, and never lacking the drive to go for the next challenge.

No, Gary is not going to give us the answers about our dreams or the secrets to fulfilling work. We hope to find our own paths at the completion of the season after talking to many of our best friends and trusted advisors.

===Join Us===

We would like to invite you to join the growth journey with a lot of fun, laughter, and deep conversations. If you would like to be our next guest or share your stories, visit tingtingandkakas.com!

===This Season of TingTing and KaKa’s ==

While we were adjusting to a new norm of working under an unprecedented COVID lockdown, KaKa quitted her job and reconnected with her purpose after a 2-month career break while Tingting just began hers.

This season we answer the question “What is work?” through brutally honest and fun conversations with our friends, colleagues and loved ones.

这周的婷婷和卡卡的度假篇 - 分享婷婷8年爱情长跑中解决摩擦的小撇步, 如此魔性的咒语你敢试试吗

婷婷和卡卡度假篇第二集 -- 这周分享我们在喝奶茶时闲聊到的婷婷写婚礼誓言时的小感悟。婚姻和爱情真是聊不完的话题。

下周一见咯～

喜欢我们的话，请继续关注我们，让你的朋友也来听听。

Welcome to the 2nd episode of TingTing and KaKa's Holiday (special). This week Tingting shares her new realizations about love and marriage when writing her vows. What an endless topic -- love and marriage

婷婷和卡卡度假篇的第一集- 这周我们分享了一个很简单却充满能量的发现呢，可以大声喊出来真的蛮爽的！一起来听听看吧

下周一见咯～

喜欢的话，请继续关注我们啦，让你朋友也来听听

This is the 1st Ep of TingTing and KaKa’s on holiday.

What we discover this week is a simple truth of our life, we feel so grateful for our life after saying it out loud :)

See you next Monday!

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