How do you come to run the first pub in the world ever to have been awarded two Michelin stars? Well, it's certainly been quite the ride for Tom Kerridge. He and Simon discuss Tom the actor, hedonist, businessman, TV presenter, drinker, teetotaler, campaigner and plenty more besides - not least his extraordinary rise as a chef through a string of top kitchens. They also reflect upon the influence of the great Marco Pierre White upon both Tom and the British culinary landscape, and consider what needs to be done to save the hospitality industry in the face of the pandemic. We also find out which Kent seaside resort is home to his favourite hidden gem and put his barbecue skills to the test in our recipe challenge.

As always, there's a premium Weber barbecue up for grabs too. For your chance to win, head to weber.com/grilling.

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