Adam Simpson and Terry Robinson discuss The Chaos Factor, the (almost) end of the cross-line exploits of Sam Haight, the kinfolk ghoul mage that we all wanted to play as kids but just weren't bad ass enough to do....also he ends up as an ashtray.  Included are discussions of early 90s supplements, the difficulties of game maps, how hard it is to run a crossover chronicle, ways of dealing with them, the power differential between nightfolk, why you shouldn't mess with a Baali Methuselah, and why bad guys just seem to cooperate better some times.

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