In this raw and wide-ranging episode of the Psyche Podcast, I sit down with theologian, author, and former emergent church leader Tony Jones to explore his latest book The God of Wild Places. We reflect on faith, failure, and the search for meaning after both public and personal upheaval. Tony opens up about his years in seminary, his complicated relationship with Christian fame, and the vulnerable process of writing through divorce, fatherhood, and spiritual transformation. We talk about everything from Nancey Murphy’s non-reductive physicalism to predator-prey symbolism, spiritual disillusionment, and what it means to find a more humble, lowercase “g” god in life’s wild places. This conversation is honest, philosophical, and deeply human—perfect for anyone wrestling with belief, identity, and living authentically.

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