What does it really mean to belong, and what happens when belonging feels like betrayal?

Beatriz Nour has lived this question. Born in France, raised between Brazil and Egypt, and based in Dubai for nearly a decade, she's the creator of the podcast InBetweenish and someone who knows firsthand what it costs to reject your heritage, and what it takes to slowly find your way back to it.

In this conversation, Beatriz and Saadia Khan go deep on the kind of identity work that doesn't show up on a visa application: the grief of cultural rejection, the negotiation of belonging across languages and life stages, and why staying "in betweenish" isn't indecision, it might be the most honest thing you can do.

"I'm most comfortable being inbetweenish, not choosing sides, not owing anyone a full allegiance to one identity."

This episode is a rerun brought back because it's exactly the kind of conversation Immigrant Heritage Month was made for. If it's your first time, welcome. If you've heard it before, you'll catch something new.

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