Our guest is Ruth Collins or Ithacamaven on Instagram. Ruth has developed the Top Down Center Out method for fitting pants. This pants fitting method is still being tweaked by Ruth and she's the one who knows all the ins and outs of the Top Down Center Out method. 

You'll find the 5 steps of the Top Down Centre Out method on her instagram account and on the podcast website.

To learn more about Ruth's Top Down Centre Out method of fitting pants, make sure you follow Ruth on her Instagram account -  @IthacaMaven. Ruth will answer questions and continue to provide up to date information about this pants fitting method she created and shares with her followers. Also check out Stacey @TheCrookedHem who is creating series of videos to demonstrate the method on YouTube account.