In this episode, we dive deep into the science and ethics of interrogation with experienced guest Mark Fallon. We explore the crucial differences between obtaining confessions and uncovering the truth, emphasizing the importance of research-backed interview techniques over outdated, high-stress methods. From his extensive career in counterterrorism to groundbreaking contributions to humane interrogation standards, we uncover strategies that not only enhance the accuracy of information but also uphold human rights. Join me in understanding how modern interrogation methods can transform our justice system and restore trust in law enforcement in this compelling episode.

Timestamps: 

• (00:00) Former counterterrorism director, author, interrogation expert Mark Fallon.
• (08:01) Torture yields inaccurate information; historical methods effective.
• (12:55) Torture undermines justice, causes long-term consequences.
• (15:42) Social media hashtag hides Guantanamo's human rights issues.
• (24:46) Gather truthful information for informed decisions efficiently.
• (31:12) Post-9/11 study: bad information led flawed decisions.
• (36:14) Research validates and improves interrogation techniques' effectiveness.
• (40:04) Speaking at ICP conference about interrogation research advancements.
• (43:39) Developed interview method used in hostage negotiations.
• (52:07) Scientific grounding crucial for effective global policing.
• (58:23) Science-based, ethical law enforcement is universally supported.
• (01:01:18) Challenges and positive shifts in law enforcement.

Links and Resources:

• Mark Fallon | LinkedIn
• Unjustifiable Means: The Inside Story of How the CIA, Pentagon, and US Government Conspired to Torture
• Interviewing and Interrogation: A Review of Research and Practice Since World War II
• Interrogation and Torture: Integrating Efficacy with Law and Morality (Ethics, National Security, and Rule Law)
• ORBIT: The Science of Rapport-Based Interviewing for Law Enforcement, Security, and Memory-Enhancing Techniques for Investigative Interviewing: The Cognitive Interview
• Principles on Effective Interviewing for Investigations and Information Gathering | APT

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