What does it actually mean to "touch grass?"

In this episode, Jonathan and David take a phrase that's often used as an internet joke and turn it into a serious conversation about one of the defining challenges of modern life: how do we remain grounded in reality when so much of our lives are lived through screens?

While technology has created incredible opportunities, they argue that it's easy for digital life to slowly replace real life. Without realizing it, we can spend more time-consuming experiences than actually having them, becoming spectators instead of participants.

Rather than calling listeners to reject technology altogether, Jonathan and David make a more balanced case: the internet is an incredible tool, but it's a poor substitute for embodied relationships, meaningful work, and real-world experiences. Technology should support life, not become life itself.

The conversation explores why real experiences are often uncomfortable, unpredictable, and impossible to optimize. And why that's exactly what makes them so valuable. From gathering with friends and participating in local communities to reading physical books and spending time outdoors, the hosts argue that the ordinary practices of living in the physical world are becoming increasingly countercultural.

To close the episode, Jonathan and David issue a simple challenge: intentionally build habits that reconnect you with reality. Because in an age of endless scrolling, choosing to be fully present may be one of the most radical things you can do.

The internet is one of the greatest tools ever created.

But it's still just a tool.

Don't settle for watching life through a screen when you've been invited to participate in the real thing.

Go outside.

Have conversations.

Read a real book.

Build something.

Join a community.

Use technology to enrich your life, but don't let it replace the world God has placed you in.

And as always,

Be Unbound