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  • TP289 – An Update on the Disruptive Healthcare Trifecta: Google, Facebook and Amazon

    Four years ago, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith discussed the impacts that the “disruptive healthcare trifecta” - Google, Facebook and Amazon - were predicted to have on the industry. In this episode, they reflect back on how these organizations have evolved and changed their strategies. They cover Google Health’s recent announcement of expanding the AI capabilities to organize patient data, Facebook’s shift to an ad-centric model (and the challenges of misinformation), and Amazon’s recent acquisition of One Medical as a cornerstone in their strategy from more than five years ago. Are these three companies still causing as much disruption as was predicted four years ago? Tune in to find out!

    Mentions from the Show:

    • Why Health Care Is Ripe for Digital Disruption
    • Customers, Tech Drive Health Care Disruption
    • Google is developing its own prescription for U.S. health-care costs: smarter artificial intelligence
    • Project Baseline: Alphabet's five-year plan to map the entire journey of human health
    • ViVE 2022: Google Health expands AI capabilities of Care Studio to organize patient data
    • Verily's clinical research and healthcare businesses are growing, execs say, as company eyes post-pandemic opportunities
    • Facebook Says Its Update Will Make It 'Better' for Your Mental Health. Here's What You Should Know.
    • Turn Off Messenger Kids, Health Experts Plead to Facebook
    • Facebook Users Press Privacy Claims Over Tracking At Health Sites
    • Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites
    • Facebook is bombarding cancer patients with ads for unproven treatments
    • Removing Certain Ad Targeting Options and Expanding Our Ad Controls
    • Here's How Amazon Could Disrupt Health Care (Part 1)
    • Amazon in healthcare: disruption in motion or a nothing-burger?
    • Amazon Wants to Be Your Doctor, Too
    • Amazon will see you now: reading between the lines of the One Medical acquisition
    • Touchpoint podcast Twitter
    • Reed Smith Twitter
    • Chris Boyer Twitter
    • Chris Boyer website
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      57 min
    • TP288 - The Patchwork Quilt of Healthcare Data

      Health systems face significant challenges in today’s age when developing first-party data strategies. In this episode, hosts Reed Smith and Chris Boyer discuss the need for digital marketers to adopt a data first strategy, including prioritizing data security and understanding the various different data security laws being implemented across the United States. They are joined by Jeremy Rogers of IU Health who shares his organizations journey to leveraging data to improve patient experiences. 


      Mentions from the Show:

      • 2022: The shift to first-party data
      • Data Security Must Be Prioritized In The Healthcare Industry
      • How New Federal, State Laws Impact Healthcare Data Privacy
      • Jeremy Rogers on LinkedIn
      • Jeremy Rogers on Twitter
      • Touchpoint podcast Twitter
      • Reed Smith Twitter
      • Chris Boyer Twitter
      • Chris Boyer website
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        57 min
      • TP287 - The Digital Front Door is an Experience Strategy, Not a Technology One

        In this episode, Chris Boyer and Reed Smith discuss the concept of the “Digital Front Door” (again) and really attempt to define it and outline the various technologies and approaches that comprise typical health system front door initiatives. Ben Dillon shares his expertise in the “Ask the Expert” segment of the show. Overall, they conclude that perhaps the challenge with trying to define the “Digital Front Door” is that it perhaps instead of defining it as a technology strategy, it should be defined as an experience strategy.

        Mentions from the Show:

        • TP90 – Enter Through the Digital Front Door Oct 2018
        • TP183 – The Digital Front Door is Neither the “Front” Nor a “Door” Aug 2020
        • TP208 – When One Digital Front Door Closes, Another Opens, Jan 2021
        • TP247 – The Digital “Revolving” Door, Oct 2021
        • Digital Front Door 2021: A View Through the Eyes of Market Leaders - 2021 KLAS report
        • The evolution of the digital front door in healthcare
        • What’s Behind Your Digital Front Door?
        • Ben Dillon on LinkedIn
        • Ben Dillon on Twitter
        • Geonetric.com
        • Reimagining the Healthcare Digital Experience
        • Touchpoint podcast Twitter
        • Reed Smith Twitter
        • Chris Boyer Twitter
        • Chris Boyer website
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          1 hr 3 min
        • TP286 - ICYMI: Digital Transformation is Not a Line-item on Your Budget

          For many health systems, digital transformation initiatives that began in the pandemic are starting to falter, which begs the question: why is digital transformation so difficult? In this episode, hosts Reed Smith and Chris Boyer share insight on the seven skills that digital leaders need to have, the importance of embracing a shared governance model and how some digital transformation efforts are potentially impacting provider burnout. They are joined by Tom Kiesau, Senior Partner and Director of the Chartis Group, who shares his perspective on how it’s time to move beyond digital investment to actual transformation. 


          Mentions from the Show:

          • 7 skills of successful digital leaders
          • How Geisinger made governance a key to its digital transformation
          • Is digital transformation in healthcare contributing to provider burnout?
          • Healthcare’s Digital Revolution: It’s Time to Move Beyond Investment to Transformation
          • Tom Kiesau on LinkedIn
          • The Chartis Group
          • Touchpoint podcast Twitter
          • Reed Smith Twitter
          • Chris Boyer Twitter
          • Chris Boyer website
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            52 min
          • TP285 - The Problem with the Pixel

            Recent news revealed that a number of hospital websites were found to have passed sensitive PII (personal identifiable information) to the Meta company via the use of the Facebook Pixel. In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith discuss the importance of pixel tracking for digital marketers, how many websites encourage the use of tracking pixels and the legal and privacy concerns that arise from the widespread usage. Jeremy Harrison from Multicare joins to share his perspective on the challenge of the Facebook Pixel for health systems. 


            Mentions from the Show:

            • Meta hit with class action suit alleging it mined providers’ patient data
            • What Is A Tracking Pixel—Explained In 800 Words Or Less
            • Top 11 Pixels To Add To Your Website
            • Is Facebook Pixel HIPAA compliant?
            • We’re Living Through A Digital Privacy Catastrophe: It’s Past Time For A Serious Nationwide Privacy Law
            • Jeremy Harrison on LinkedIn
            • Jeremy Harrison on Twitter
            • Touchpoint on Twitter
            • Reed Smith Twitter
            • Chris Boyer Twitter
            • Chris Boyer website
            • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

              58 min
            • TP284 - Marketing Is Like Communications (or Is It the Other Way Round?)

              Marketing and communications are sometimes considered the cornerstone of any business plan. However, for hospitals and health systems, often these disciplines are often treated as separate and distinct. In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith discuss the differences (or similarities) between marketing and communications. They are joined by David Shiffrin of Jarrard Inc., who shares insights from their latest National Healthcare Survey. 


              Mentions from the Show:

              • TP45 – Marketing and Communications: Two Sides of the Same Coin
              • The Difference Between Marketing and Communications
              • Five Components Of A Successful Strategic Communications Plan
              • Five Essential Elements Of A Marketing Plan
              • David Shifrin on LinkedIn
              • David Shifrin on Twitter
              • Dark Suits & White Coats: Healthcare’s Acute Divide - Jarrard Inc’s National Healthcare Study
              • Touchpoint on Twitter
              • Reed Smith Twitter
              • Chris Boyer Twitter
              • Chris Boyer website
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                56 min
              • TP283 - Who Really is our Audience?

                As health systems consider the needs of the modern healthcare consumer and reflect on how their current brand efforts align, it’s always important to understand our audiences. In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith discuss different audience segmentations. Justin Wartell from Monigle joins to share the latest findings from their 5th Annual Humanizing Brand Experience study. 

                Mentions from the Show:

                • Focusing on heavy users of healthcare is the wrong way to control costs
                • Humanizing Brand Experience: Healthcare Edition – Volume 5
                • Justin Wartell on LinkedIn
                • Justin Wartell on Twitter
                • Monigle.com
                • Touchpoint on Twitter
                • Reed Smith Twitter
                • Chris Boyer Twitter
                • Chris Boyer website
                • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                  58 min
                • TP282 - The CMO Plus and the Disruption of Healthcare Retailization

                  The role of the health system CMO is changing - in both responsibilities and their mindset. In this episode, hosts Reed Smith and Chris Boyer discuss how marketers need to embrace a “disruption mindset” (tip of the hat to Stephen Moegling), and the metamorphosis of the modern CMO. Laura Kreofsky from Pivot Point Consulting joins to share her insights on how Healthcare Retailization is forcing us to embrace transformation. 

                  Mentions from the Show:

                  • Healthcare Marketers: Do You Have a Disruption Mindset? 
                  • The CMO Role Isn’t Dying, It’s Just Going Through A Metamorphosis
                  • Why retailers see health care offerings as a post-pandemic booster
                  • Google Health hires FDA's former digital health chief to lead global strategy
                  • Laura Kreofsky on LinkedIn
                  • PivotPointConsulting.com
                  • Pivot Point Consulting on Twitter
                  • Touchpoint on Twitter
                  • Reed Smith Twitter
                  • Chris Boyer Twitter
                  • Chris Boyer website
                  • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                    1 hr 1 min
                  • TP281 - ICYMI: What is ROMI (and Does it Differ from ROI)?

                    In this encore episode, hosts Reed Smith and Chris Boyer are back to talking about ROI, and sharing the differences between true ROI, ROMI and ROAS - the three stepbrothers of marketing measurement. They share the basics of Marketing ROI to outlining the activities needed to measure marketing impacting and then are joined by Dan Small, Senior Director of Digital Strategy at Hartford HealthCare, who shares his organization’s journey to ROI. 

                    Mentions from the Show:

                    • The Basics of Marketing ROI
                    • Evaluating the effectiveness of advertising campaigns: ROMI, ROI and ROAS
                    • Three Activities to Prioritize for Maximum Marketing ROI in 2021
                    • Dan Small on LinkedIn


                    • Find Us Online: 

                      • Touchpoint on Twitter
                      • Reed Smith Twitter
                      • Chris Boyer Twitter
                      • Chris Boyer website
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                        1 hr 2 min
                      • TP277 - An #HMPS22 Round-up

                        In this episode, hosts Chris Boyer and Reed Smith reflect back on the most recent Healthcare Marketing and Physician Strategy Summit, and share insights and topics that were discussed including improving ways teams work together, approaches to digital transformation and content, as well as how to better engage our employees through communication and content. Kirsten Lecky from WriterGirl joins to share her experience working with health systems on building effective and authentic internal communications strategies. Also featuring additional insights from Ben Dillon, Brittney Hanson, Chris Bevolo, Chris Hemphill, Colleen Massa, Dalal Haldeman, Jeremy Harrison, Jerry Grady, Josh Fieldman, Kriss Barlow, Rob Klein and Stephen Moegling.


                        Mentions from the Show: 

                        • Kirsten Lecky on LinkedIn
                        • Kirsten Lecky on Twitter
                        • WriterGirl.com
                        • Chris Boyer on LinkedIn
                        • Chris Boyer on Twitter
                        • Reed Smith on LinkedIn
                        • Reed Smith on Twitter
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                          57 min

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