How a music-obsessed Midwesterner built a sonic legacy from the mix stages of Hollywood to the classrooms of tomorrow — and why the future of sound is still human.

In this sound-rich episode, Corey sits down with Lenny Jones, a virtuoso in the trailer audio world and founder of 24/96 Sound & Music Design. With over 190 feature film campaigns under his belt and a teaching post at the New York Film Academy, Lenny shares his journey from humble beginnings in Indiana to becoming a go-to source for immersive sound design in trailers, TV spots, and features.

This episode is a masterclass in navigating creative evolution, embracing new tech like AI, and maintaining human connection in an increasingly digital industry.

In this episode, we highlight A Place Called Home (APCH), a transformative nonprofit in South Central LA that provides a safe, nurturing environment for young people to learn, grow, and thrive. Through arts, education, counseling, and mentorship, APCH helps build brighter futures — and stronger communities.

🎉 Shoutout to Brett Winn, this year's honoree at the APCH Gala! 🎟️ Upcoming Event: 2025 Gala – October 23rd, 2025

👉 Learn more or donate: https://apch.org

• [00:00:00] 🎬 Welcome & Introduction: Corey introduces Lenny Jones, founder of 24/96 Sound

• [00:02:00] 🎓 Ball State to LA: Lenny's journey west & the Indiana trailer-maker pipeline

• [00:04:00] 🥁 From Drumming to Mixing: Music engineering roots & career pivots

• [00:05:00] 🧵 Soundproofing & Creativity: Inside Lenny's home studio (blankets, neon sculptures & Burning Man)

• [00:07:00] 🔊 Demystifying Mixing: What does a trailer mixer actually do?

• [00:10:00] 💽 Tech Transitions: From analog to Pro Tools to AI—how Lenny adapted

• [00:13:00] ⚙️ Staying Ahead: Tools, forums, and keeping sharp in a fast-moving field

• [00:16:00] 🚀 SSI to Entrepreneur: Why Lenny left a top post house to start 24/96

• [00:19:00] 👨‍🏫 Teaching the Next Gen: Sound design at New York Film Academy

• [00:21:00] 🌍 Global Sound: Representing composers from Finland to Japan

• [00:24:00] 🎧 Case Study – Dave for FX: Breaking down a sound-rich launch trailer

• [00:29:00] 🥁 Travis Barker Spot: Behind-the-scenes with AV Squad & movieTickets.com

• [00:30:00] 🏢 Working with Studios vs. Agencies: Key differences & workflows

• [00:33:00] 🌪️ Navigating Industry Shifts: Covid, streaming slumps, AI & more

• [00:38:00] 🤖 AI in Audio: Helpful assistant or creative threat? Lenny weighs in

• [00:44:00] 🎨 Favorite Campaigns: Judas and the Black Messiah, TRON, & more

• [00:47:00] 🛠️ Career Advice: Build something you own + the people-first philosophy

• Balance Tech & People: Mastering tools like Pro Tools is essential, but relationships build lasting careers.

• Diversify Your Creative Income: Lenny juggles commercial work, a sound library, and teaching to stay adaptable.

• Leverage AI Carefully: Use tools like ChatGPT for metadata and titles, but don't let them replace human creativity.

• Keep Learning & Networking: Conferences, forums, and award shows remain vital for staying connected and inspired.

"When you mix a trailer, you're sculpting the experience—balancing music, dialogue, and effects frame by frame." — Lenny Jones

"The future of sound isn't AI replacing humans, it's AI empowering humans to do better, faster work." — Lenny Jones

"Start your own company—even if you're working full-time. It's your safety net and your legacy." — Lenny Jones

• Website: 2496soundandmusic.com

• Instagram: @2496soundandmusic

• LinkedIn: Lenny Jones

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• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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📌 Episode Summary

In this edition of our tribute series to Andy Kuehn—widely regarded as the father of the modern trailer industry—we're joined by special co-host Benedict Coulter and iconic guests Dawn Baillie and Clive Baillie, two of the co-founders of BLT Communications. Together, they retrace the creative and entrepreneurial journey that shaped BLT, and honor the enormous influence Andy had in nurturing creative independence and cultivating Hollywood glamor.

This conversation is a deep dive into the culture and mentorship Andy built at Kaleidoscope Films, and how that environment catalyzed the formation of one of the most successful creative shops in entertainment advertising.

🕰️ Timestamps & Highlights

[00:00:00] Welcome & intro 🎙️

[00:01:00] Meet Dawn & Clive Baillie of BLT Communications

[00:02:00] Why BLT was formed: reclaiming artistry with the advent of Macs 💻🎨

[00:04:00] Clive's journey: set carpenter on Masters of the Universe to key art designer

[00:06:00] Working at Cannon Films, Seiniger and Dazu

[00:08:00] Dawn's unconventional entry from movie extra to design star

[00:10:00] Building BLT with Rick Lynch, and a pivotal meeting with Andy Kuehn 🤝

[00:14:00] The bold idea: artists using their own computers—pre-Photoshop!

[00:16:00] First impressions of Andy: bronzed, elegant, and unforgettable

[00:19:00] Portfolio meets passion: BLT's pitch wins over Andy & Kaleidoscope

[00:21:00] Benedict's POV: how BLT raised the creative bar at Kaleidoscope

[00:24:00] Cross-medium collaborations: from Natural Born Killers to AV-Print synergy

[00:28:00] Culture as a cornerstone: open creativity at Kaleidoscope

[00:30:00] Andy's Hollywood home and unforgettable holiday parties 🎄🏡

[00:32:00] The essence of Andy: glamor, grace, and supportiveness

[00:36:00] BLT reflects on the culture Andy helped build and their growth since

[00:40:00] Warm memories from Kaleidoscope's Seward Street days

[00:43:00] Benny shares how Andy shaped his leadership style at Trailer Park

[00:47:00] Departures, transitions, and keeping Andy's legacy alive

[00:49:00] Final reflections, laughs, and why we need to bring back Ascots

"Andy embodied that old Hollywood mystique—you wanted to be around him. You felt elevated just being in the room." — Dawn Baillie

"We learned that the most important thing in a company is culture—and Andy created that." — Clive Baillie

"If you support me creatively, I'll fly. Andy gave me wings." — Benedict Coulter

📚 Related Links

• 🌐 AJK Foundation: ajkfoundation.org – Support film preservation & LGBTQ+ cinema history.

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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From Madison Ave to Hollywood: The Birth of a Trailer Empire

This week, we continue our heartfelt tribute to Andy Kuehn, a visionary often considered the father of the modern trailer industry. This week, Corey and special co-host Benedict Coulter of REBEL welcome longtime industry luminary Jim Gibbons (EVP of Paramount, founder of Flamingo Films) who takes us on a journey through the formative years of trailer creation—from New York's Madison Avenue to Hollywood's 7️⃣0️⃣2️⃣6️⃣ Santa Monica Blvd.

In this edition, we explore the early days of Kaleidoscope, Andy's legendary influence, and how the art of trailers evolved into what it is today. From pioneering trailer edits to running parallel campaigns against studio execs, Andy's legacy looms large.

• [00:00:00] Welcome & intro by Corey Nathan

• [00:01:00] Greg McClatchy on Andy Kuehn's AJK Foundation and film preservation 🌈🎞️

• [00:03:00] Enter Jim Gibbons: From liquor stores to Kaleidoscope in 1969

• [00:06:00] The story of Andy defying studio orders with A/B testing campaigns 📊🔥

• [00:08:00] Jim's memories of Andy's legendary NYC loft salons 🥂🎭

• [00:10:00] Launching Kaleidoscope in LA, reunions at 7026 Santa Monica Blvd

• [00:14:00] From Kaleidoscope to Utopia, and starting Flamingo Films

• [00:20:00] The evolution of trailer shops—from National Screen Service to creative boutiques

• [00:25:00] Behind-the-scenes on Star Wars, lasers, and early VFX 💥🛸

• [00:30:00] From competitor to client: Jim working with Andy at Paramount

• [00:34:00] Collaboration with Benedict at Trailer Park

• [00:40:00] Reflections on transitioning from indie shops to studio system

• [00:44:00] Modern-day trailer creation: Streamers, social, digital 🎥📱

• [00:45:00] What Jim misses most about Andy Kuehn

• [00:47:00] History of Kanew-Manger-Deutsch, Geronimo, and the rise of trailer giants

• [00:48:00] Signature sounds, trailer style debates, and fun industry lore 🎧😂

• [00:50:00] Final reflections & gratitude

"Andy created a standard... the tone was: be innovative. Don't settle for the norm." — Jim Gibbons

"He was always Andy. That smile, that mustache. You couldn't miss him. You felt him in the room." — Jim Gibbons

"We all owe a lot to Jim... he was part of the original group that really started it all with Andy." — Benedict Coulter

• 🌐 AJK Foundation: ajkfoundation.org – Support film preservation & LGBTQ+ cinema history.

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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🎬 Spielberg, Scott, Streisand & the Trailers Behind the Legends

This week, we continue our heartfelt tribute to Andy Kuehn, the visionary known as the father of the modern trailer industry. In this episode, we're joined by Greg McClatchy, President of Motor Entertainment and longtime Kaleidoscope editor, along with returning guest Benedict Coulter, co-founder of REBEL and the original rock-star trailer editor.

Together, they revisit their years at Kaleidoscope, the groundbreaking agency Andy Kuehn co-founded. From crafting trailers for The Omen and Top Gun to working with Spielberg, Barbra Streisand, and Tony Scott, this conversation offers a rare glimpse into the formative years of modern trailer-making.

🎧 In this episode:

• The AJK Foundation and Andy's legacy work in film preservation

• How Kaleidoscope dominated the trailer industry in the 70s–90s

• Andy's unique style: part Clark Gable, part Don Draper

• What it was like working directly with legends like Spielberg and De Palma

• How Andy gave countless creatives their big break

• Reflections on Andy's mentorship, leadership, and generosity

💬 "Andy Kuehn wasn't just a boss. He was a mentor, a friend, and a creative force unlike any other."

🔗 Speecial Mention:

• AJK Foundation: ajkfoundation.org

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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The Words Behind the Magic – with special guest Margery Doppelt

🎙️ In this sixth installment of our special tribute to the legendary Andy Kuehn—founder of Kaleidoscope Films and godfather of the modern trailer—we're joined by a true industry icon: Margery Doppelt, one of the most influential and celebrated writers in motion picture advertising. 🎞️

Margery's iconic taglines and copy helped define decades of cinematic promotion—from Jurassic Park to Fatal Attraction and beyond. Her creative fingerprint is embedded in the DNA of trailer history. Joining us for this conversation is none other than Benedict Coulter, a legendary editor and co-founder of REBEL, who brings firsthand insight into Kaleidoscope's heyday and Andy's enduring legacy.

Together, we share behind-the-scenes stories, reflect on a golden era of creativity, and celebrate the unique bond that made Kaleidoscope more than just a company—it was a creative home. 💫

• [00:00:00] Welcome & remembering Andy Kuehn's impact through the AJK Foundation 🌈

• [00:05:00] Introducing Margery Doppelt: writer behind the most iconic taglines

• [00:08:00] Her hilarious first taco at Lucy's El Adobe and surviving on $81/week 💵🌮

• [00:10:00] How a missing script led to her first interaction with Andy

• [00:14:00] Margery's first big hits and her transition to writing 🎬

• [00:18:00] Ryan O'Neal, outtakes, and the power of improvisation 😂

• [00:25:00] Jurassic Park: the story behind "An adventure 65 million years in the making" 🦖

• [00:29:00] Collaboration with editors and the lost art of copy in trailers

• [00:33:00] Why Andy's leadership created a golden age for creatives ✨

• [00:37:00] The ripple effect: How Kaleidoscope alumni shaped the industry

• [00:45:00] Favorite campaigns, unforgettable lines, and why copy still matters

• [00:47:00] Parting reflections on Andy's legacy and what made him so special

• Margery's approach to copy was fearless, playful, and deeply intuitive.

• Andy's genius lay not just in his creative vision but in his ability to champion others.

• Kaleidoscope was more than a trailer house—it was a training ground for some of the industry's best.

• The collaboration between writer and editor was once a sacred space in trailer-making.

• The power of copy can still define a campaign—sometimes in just one unforgettable line.

"Andy had this amazing gift—he was so talented and confident that he enjoyed other people's success." — Margery Doppelt

"I know you f** her—anything else?"* — Margery, in a legendary moment with Ryan O'Neal 🤯

"A comedy and a drama—just like life." — Tagline from Nothing in Common

"If adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones." — One of Margery's enduring classics 🏆

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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K-scope's Blueprint: Andy K. & The Architects of Modern Movie Advertising

🎙 Introduction: Joined by special guest Vincent Arcaro, President of Dark Light Pictures and a Kaleidoscope alum, and co-host Benedict Coulter. Together, they honor the legacy of Andy Kuehn, a creative force behind some of the most iconic trailers and a beloved mentor in the industry. Vince shares stories of his early days at Kaleidoscope, how Andy shaped the modern trailer business, and how deep personal bonds were formed through a shared love of movie magic.

📚 What We Discuss:

• How Andy Kuehn cultivated a culture of creative freedom and excellence at Kaleidoscope

• Vince Arcaro's journey from messenger to head of production and beyond

• The evolution of featurettes and their impact before EPKs

• Behind-the-scenes stories of major productions like Taxi Driver, Annie, and Smokey and the Bandit

• Why relationship-building and a producer's "black book" are still essential tools in the business

🎬 Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Vince Arcaro's start at Kaleidoscope in 1976 [00:03:00] Becoming a production manager "by fire" [00:06:00] Andy's management of creative "renegades" [00:12:00] Andy immerses himself as an extra on Eyes of Laura Mars [00:20:00] Vince's serendipitous hiring story [00:26:00] Kaleidoscope expands into titles and second unit work [00:35:00] Vince on hiring: "It's not about the degree—it's about the drive" [00:45:00] Favorite campaigns: Taxi Driver, Jaws, Annie PBS special [00:50:00] Final reflections on Andy's legacy

💬 Featured Quotes: "Andy had the perfect storm for creating movie advertising. He knew how to manage his creative staff... they were renegades." – Vincent Arcaro "Andy wasn't afraid to make a good mistake. He encouraged his editors to go for it." – Vincent Arcaro "Your most important asset as a producer is your black book." – Andy Kuehn (as shared by Vince) "He was like a big brother / father figure. I miss the stories, the dinners, the genuine interest in what we were doing." – Vincent Arcaro

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• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
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Andy's Nurturing Legacy and the Aura of Old Hollywood

So cool to sit down with veteran entertainment advertising executive Mark Trugman to continue our tribute and honor the legacy of Andy Kuehn — a pioneer of the modern movie trailer industry and beloved founder of Kaleidoscope Films. And we're joined once again by our special co-host, Benedict Coulter. Mark shares his journey from graphic design and television promotion into the world of trailers, his first encounters with Andy, and the profound influence Andy's leadership style had on generations of creative talent. Together, they reflect on the culture Andy fostered, the careers he helped launch, and the personal memories that made him unforgettable.

• How Mark Trugman transitioned from television graphics to running one of the industry's most respected trailer companies.

• The leadership philosophy Andy Kuehn embodied — nurturing, non-proprietary, and deeply passionate.

• Inside stories about the unique culture at Kaleidoscope Films during its heyday.

• The ripple effect of Andy's mentorship on multiple generations of creative leaders in entertainment marketing.

• Anecdotes that reveal Andy's charisma, generosity, and larger-than-life presence both in and out of the office.

• [00:02:00] Mark recalls his first job with Kaleidoscope Films — and a rookie mistake involving a "two-pop" that still makes him laugh.

• [00:09:00] The first meeting with Andy Kuehn, complete with a calf tan, a parrot, and quick-witted banter.

• [00:13:00] Life inside a small but mighty Kaleidoscope team — and the rite of passage that was Andy's 5 p.m. wine gatherings.

• [00:16:00] How Andy's and Steve's management styles gave editors room to create and clients reason to trust.

• [00:22:00] A vivid description of Andy's Moroccan villa and legendary holiday parties.

• [00:27:00] The last-minute speech Mark delivered at the Key Art Awards, honoring Andy after his passing.

• [00:36:00] Reflections on what Mark misses most about Andy and why his presence might have made the industry a kinder place.

• [00:42:00] The hilarious Academy Awards "seat switch" story that put Andy in Oliver Stone's spot on live television.

• "Andy was the most passionate, supportive, enthusiastic person I've ever dealt with — there wasn't an ounce of cynicism in him." – Mark Trugman

• "It wasn't about heavy-handed management; it was about giving you the space to create and the encouragement to solve problems your way." – Mark Trugman

• "If you love doing something, why stop? It feeds your soul." – Benedict Coulter

• "The Beatles are always going to be the Beatles for a reason… Benedict, you're one of those rock stars." – Mark Trugman

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
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🎙Crafting Legends & Honoring the GOAT

For the 3rd installment of our tribute to Andy Kuehn, we're joined by legendary trailer editor Deborah Luster as well as our special co-host Benedict Coulter. We reflect on Deborah's incredible career in the film industry—and offer her memories and all the ways she was inspired by the late, great Andy Kuehn, the pioneering force behind Kaleidoscope Films. From working on iconic trailers like Jaws, Star Wars, and Raiders of the Lost Ark, Deb shares her journey from history major to senior trailer editor, offering behind-the-scenes stories that shaped a generation of movie marketing.

📚 What We Discuss:

• How Deborah Luster transitioned from history major to trailblazing trailer editor

• Why Jaws revolutionized the trailer industry—and Deb's role in its creation

• Andy Kuehn's lasting influence on Hollywood and the editors he mentored

• The culture and camaraderie of Kaleidoscope Films in the '70s and '80s

• How the trailer industry evolved from analog to digital—and what was lost

⏱ Episode Highlights:

• [00:02:00] Deborah Luster shares how she transitioned from aspiring history teacher to trailer editing at Kaleidoscope

• [00:03:30] Working on the groundbreaking Jaws campaign and what made it such a shift in the industry

• [00:06:30] How hard it was to explain what a trailer editor did in the 1970s

• [00:08:00] First impressions of Andy Kuehn—his movie-star looks, big cigar, and magnetic presence

• [00:10:00] Andy's unique mentorship style: encouraging assistants to cut and giving them credit

• [00:11:00] Deb's work on iconic campaigns like Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Karate Kid, and War Games

• [00:15:00] The collaborative, non-competitive environment at Kaleidoscope and how it fostered growth

• [00:17:30] What production life was like before digital—three-martini lunches and slow film processes

• [00:19:00] Substance use in the 1970s–80s industry culture and how creativity evolved through it

• [00:21:30] Kaleidoscope's lasting influence through its alumni and standards of excellence

• [00:24:00] Remembering Andy's graciousness and leadership—even years after Deb left Kaleidoscope

• [00:29:00] Bill Cox's mentorship and the value of old-school editing rigor

• [00:37:00] Favorite trailers ever: Life of Brian, Alien, Taxi Driver, and more

• [00:41:00] How working with Andy opened doors to working with legends like Clint Eastwood

💬 Featured Quotes:

"He was like the GOAT of trailers. Let's face it." – Deborah Luster "Andy wanted you to shine and be acknowledged for your work." – Benedict Coulter "It's basically like you're paying a studio to cut a movie for them because you want that prestige on your website." – Deborah Luster "Everybody participated in the Kaleidoscope of it all." – Benedict Coulter

🔗 Resources Mentioned:

• Jaws Trailer (1975) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1fu_sA7XhE

• Star Wars Original Teaser (1977) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ734NWnAHA

• Raiders of the Lost Ark Trailer (1981) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkkzKHCx154

• The Life of Brian Trailer (1979) – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKPmGjVFbrY

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• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
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"Kaleidoscope University" - The Trailer Industry's Wild Beginnings

Continuing our Tribute to Andy Kuehn, we're joined by Mike Camp, who got his start at Kaleidoscope Films under Andy, went on to serve as EVP at Paramount, EVP at Fox on the International side, and ulitmately was co-founder of the boutique agency ACME. And we're once again fortunate to have special co-host Benedict Coulter—often thought of as "the original rock star editor of the trailer industry" and now co-founder and owner of REBEL.

What We Discuss:

• How Andy Kuehn inspired a generation of trailer editors and producers

• What it was like working at Kaleidoscope Films during its golden era

• Mike Camp's role in shaping campaigns for classics like Top Gun, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Titanic

• What it takes to launch a successful creative agency in Hollywood

• The art and philosophy of trailer-making, from the analog days to now

Episode Highlights:

• • [00:02:45] – Mike Camp reflects on how a favor for a college friend landed him at Kaleidoscope Films, launching a decades-long career in trailers.

  • [00:07:10] – The unique, rowdy, and creatively explosive culture at Kaleidoscope: office wine tastings, horse racing bets, and midnight brainstorms.

  • [00:14:30] – A pivotal phone call from Dawn Steel brings Mike to Paramount, where he joins a dream team at just 27 years old.

  • [00:17:55] – The legendary 1986 Paramount slate: Top Gun, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Crocodile Dundee, and Star Trek IV.

  • [00:23:20] – Andy Kuehn's distinctive trailer sensibility and how he elevated the artform by focusing on mood, music, and emotion.

  • [00:28:40] – The creation of ACME: how Mike and his partners went all-in to build a new agency, and what set them apart.

  • [00:36:50] – Mentoring and collaborating with a new generation, including the rising talent of Skip and his revolutionary graphics work.

  • [00:49:15] – Reflections on Andy's enduring impact on trailer culture and how he empowered creatives with freedom and trust.

  • [01:02:00] – The legacy continues: why Mike and Benny remain passionate about storytelling and honoring the roots of the craft.

Featured Quotes:

• "A trailer is a song—it's meant to give you emotion. You're not selling the movie; you're selling a feeling." – Mike Camp
• "Andy championed us. He never said no to a wild idea. He always said: try it." – Benedict Coulter
• "The trailer's job is to get asses in seats. If the film does its job, they'll stay there." – Mike Camp
• "Andy was the heart of Kaleidoscope. He made you feel like you were truly in the movie business." – Mike Camp

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
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Unearthing the Craft of Trailer Making

In this special episode, we kick off a heartfelt tribute honoring Andy Kuehn—the father of the modern trailer industry and founder of Kaleidoscope Films. Corey is joined by two legendary figures: Skip Chaisson and Benedict Coulter. Together, they reflect on Andy's creative legacy, leadership style, and lasting influence on the art of trailer-making.

🔑 What We Discuss:

• The origin story of Kaleidoscope Films and Andy Kuehn's role in building the trailer industry

• Skip and Benny's personal experiences working under Andy's leadership

• How Andy's creative instincts elevated the craft of trailer editing

• Insights on leading through uncertainty and uplifting your creative community

• The evolution of trailer companies into full-service creative content studios

⏱️ Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Tribute Series kickoff – Why Andy Kuehn still matters [00:03:00] Skip Chaisson's incredible legacy in trailers [00:06:00] Corey shares a moving message on inclusion and supporting each other [00:13:00] Skip's journey from Columbia intern to Kaleidoscope to Skip Film to Wild Card [00:23:00] First impressions of Andy – "like a 1940s movie star" [00:30:00] Andy's 1000-foot view – how his feedback sharpened creative vision [00:37:00] A story about Andy recommending the perfect piece of trailer music [00:46:00] How Andy built a culture that empowered talent and community [00:52:00] Skip's dance scholarship and how it inspired his music choices

💬 Quotes to Remember: "Andy had this ability to look at a cut once and hone in on exactly what it needed." – Skip Chaisson "Some men need to succeed in order to belong. Some women need to belong in order to succeed." – Andy Kuehn (as remembered by Benedict Coulter) "He unearthed the talent in us... and championed it." – Benedict Coulter "We're going to need each other." – Corey Nathan

• 24/96 Sound & Music Design: 2496soundandmusic.com
• The Golden Trailer Awards: goldentrailer.com/
• Brent Allen Hagel: www.brentallenhagel.com
• Soundstripe: app.soundstripe.com

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