As we discuss ways that prosperity gospel sneaks into the family, we decided to start off by looking at the book of Proverbs, as these are often the verses that are cherry picked and often used to take prosperity gospel ideas in regard to the family.

We invited Old Testament scholar, Chad Bird to discuss the book of Proverbs. He talks about how it is a book of observations, not promises or commands. What does a life look like when it is designed under the order of God?

He talks about what happens when we take the Proverbs to be what they are not, which is the case of Job's friends, who took general truths and applied them toward Job's pain and circumstances.

We look at the verse: Proverbs 22:6, "Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it."

Is this a promise? Can we control our child's salvation? What does it mean to train up a child?

Chad explains the Hebrew word for "train up" in regard to children, that gives a twist of what we often think. We talk about our continuous desire to control the situation, and how that's not going on here.

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