Trash & Treasures

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Hmm, a 2000s-era supernatural love triangle YA novel by a Utah-raised author with a lot of extremely unfortunate implications baked into the lore....this all sounds familiar, but we can't put our finger on it. Maybe it's just Pike specifically name-dropping Stephanie Meyer all over the place. If only this protagonist had as much going on internally as Bella Swan.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of disordered eating and fatphobia, ableism, racism, anti-vax rhetoric/alternate medicine, eugenics, body horror, sexual harassment, and misogyny

Alex's YA Recs: https://theafictionado.wordpress.com/tag/book-recs/

0:30 Commission!

2:00 Content Warnings

5:00 Drink Recipe

8:00 Stealth Mormonism

11:00 Our Stunning Perfect Heroine

18:00 Mmm, Gender Politics

23:00 Missing Body Horror

27:00 The Bad Boy One

32:00 Fairy Biology and Cosmology

41:00 Holy Eugenics Batman

47:00 A Climax Allegedly Ensues

56:00 The Shadow of Homeopathy

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Our summer celebration of Pride comes to a close (with many apologies for the delay) on a return to a familiar face: Jamie Babbit, best known for the landmark lesbian film BUT I'M A CHEERLEADER. Today we look at her 2007 follow-up, its deliberate attempts to introduce young viewers to the world of queer activism, and how well it achieves those goals. Also, the fact that you've probably never heard of it.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of misogyny, body-shaming, fatphobia, homophobia and gaybashing, transphobia, racism, infidelity, age-gap relationships, and war crimes.

RAFIKI: https://www.kanopy.com/product/rafiki

OF LOVE AND LAW: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/oflovelaw

1:00 Wolfe Media

10:00 “Clits in Action”

17:00 Generational Activism Divide

32:00 The Act Three Problem

39:00 The Ghost in the Film

44:00 Theory vs Accessibility

49:00 Bonus Recs

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Listen, this is a queer podcast 365 days a year. Pride Month won't be stopped by a little thing like June being over. It's time for the 90s, and the film its director describes as "an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 on acid."

On the board for this episode: the difference between "queer representation" and "queer cinema," the queer reclaiming of mainstream genre work, and the pros and cons of making intensely of-the-moment art.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of suicide, racism, child sexual abuse, homophobia+biphobia, religiosity, gore/animal death and body horror

Variety Interview: https://variety.com/2019/tv/features/gregg-araki-starz-now-apocalypse-1203155576/

Black Is, Black Ain't: http://newsreel.org/video/BLACK-IS-BLACK-AINT

Disclosure: https://www.netflix.com/title/81284247

Poison: https://zeitgeistfilms.com/film/poison

1:00 Intro to Araki + New Queer Cinema

12:00 24 Hours of “Nowhere”

14:00 Ethics and Young Actors

17:00 The Teen Soap Gang

22:00 Alien Invasion

26:00 At the Party

32:00 Nihilism and Vulnerability

37:00 Pop Culture Time Capsule

40:00 Fuck Harmony Korine Corner

45:00 Queer Cinema Recs

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It's time at last to spotlight the patron saint of this podcast, the pope of filth himself: John Waters. While he's better known for Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble is the most potent and maybe the best of his 1970s work, a razor-sharp satire of heteronormative culture that can only flourish because it comes from such a tight team of collaborating artists and weirdos.

But it's also worth asking: what happens when an outsider artist becomes a public figure? What does that new element of privilege do to their art and how they relate to the marginalized community they come from?

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, incest, homophobia, transphobia, child abuse (physical/emotional/sexual), cults, and ableism

I Am Divine (Documentary; also on Netflix): https://vimeo.com/ondemand/iamdivinefilm

Female Trouble Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5xziMBpf0Q

Shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HjIljJd-o0

John Waters Interview (2015): https://www.indiewire.com/2015/08/john-waters-on-caitlyn-jenner-we-cant-make-fun-of-her-241129/

John Waters Interview (2018): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/08/john-waters-homotopia-festival-liverpool-manson-murders

1:00 John Waters and Filth

9:00 Divine and Gender

11:30 Content Warnings

13:00 The Life and Times of Dawn Davenport

26:00 Queer Satire

31:00 Modern Waters and Serial Mom

38:00 Should You Watch This

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Happy Pride Month, listeners! It's time for our annual four-episode journey through the history of queer film, and this year we'll be looking in particular at camp and outsider cinema.

While Bride might be quite famous, it's also a perfect starting place for our discussion: director James Whale's camp masterpiece, which those who knew him spent years after his tragic death denying as a queer work (possibly, we suspect, because they feared it would be pigeonholed as "gay art" rather than cinema for everyone). Which leads to an even thornier question....how are queer artists pushed to define their audience?

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, sexual assault, homophobia, and suicide.

The Hollywood Blacklist: http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/2016/06/21/blacklistarchive

"Bela and Boris" Miniseries: http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/2017/11/21/belaandborisarchive

1:00 Pride Intro

2:30 The Code Era Returns

10:00 A MORAL Sequel, Dear Viewer

16:00 That’s Pretty Gay, Bro

29:00 Craving for Legitimacy

41:00 Listener Question

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The sequel's still better.

We revisit the weird double image of Magic Mike, a "quiet lives of desperation" dance movie that was marketed almost solely based on its five or six minutes of male strip revues. Which both sells the subtler moments of the script short and disguises the unmasked contempt that the film overall has for women. It's...well, listen. There's a reason we're covering it here.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of toxic masculinity, misogyny, sexual assault, racism, whorephobia, classism, biphobia, and Matthew McConaughey

1:00 Production Info

12:00 Class in 2012

15:00 About That Misogyny

25:00 SHAME SPIRAL feat. Biphobia

32:00 Toxic Masculinity Central

37:00 The Alleged Happy Ending

47:00 Should You Watch This

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We're back, and not a moment too soon; there's a twister in Kansas! As season two kicks off Clark gets boner powers and Pete finally gets a role in the plot, while Dr. Hamilton continues to mosey through his episodes being both inscrutable and delightful. Oh, and Lionel is blind now. It's handled as tactfully as you'd imagine.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, rape culture, misogyny, ableism, toxic masculinity, racism, and nationalism.

2:00 Bite-Sized Summaries

6:30 Monsters of the Week

31:00 Heart of the Show

34:00 And That’s Terrible

42:00 The Jukebox

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Today we were set a daunting challenge: find something that hasn't yet been said about infamous cinematic trainwreck Showgirls. As the modern conversation swings from "reclaimed camp" to "was it in fact Good Actually all along" following the release of the documentary YOU DON'T NOMI, it felt like time to wade into those claims. What the hell was Showigirls trying to do, anyway?

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, ableism, homophobia, misogyny, rape culture, sexual assault, whorephobia, fatphobia, drug use, ageism, and auteur bullshit.

Showgirls! The Musical!: https://soundcloud.com/showgirlsthemusical

You Don't Nomi: http://www.youdontnomifilm.com/

0:30 Commission Stuff

3:00 Content Warnings

5:00 In Summary

18:30 Some Notes on Camp

24:00 Eszterhas v Verhoven

29:00 A Second Bite at Flashdance

40:00 Versayce (The Characterization Problem)

48:00 Showgirl History

52:00 Failed Satire

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For our 100th mainline episode, we decided to look in on one of Dorothy's childhood favorites, a cult hit that inspires a mix of terror and deeply held affection in all who remember it. And since Dorothy is also a megafan of Baum's books, it also provided a chance to talk about how the Oz series has been adapted over the years. Thanks for 100 episodes, listeners, and here's to 100 more.

Content Warning: Discussion of ableism, medical horror, body horror, the House of Mouse's Bullshit

1:00 Showing Our Age

5:00 Production Notes

15:00 From Book to Film

41:00 Many Adaptations

46:00 100 Episodes

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This month we stretch our muscles by getting into some ~literary fiction~! More precisely, the work of Dennis Cooper, a big name in queer outsider art who influenced previous DBC alumni Billy Martin (aka Poppy Z Brite) and Chuck Palahniuk and whose published alongside inevitable future subject Brett Easton Ellis.

FRISK, the story of a dude who has a lot of sex and even more fantasies about violently murdering his partners, is considered his most intimidating work so....let's plunge right into that deep end! Pack a bag, because we did a LOT of extra reading for this one. Also, all the content warnings. My God, all of them.

CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, pedophilia, coprophagia, water sports, snuff, necrophilia, graphic descriptions of gore/dismemberment, racism, queerphobia, transphobia, grooming, ageism, and misogyny.

The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction: https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm

The JT Leroy Scam: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2006/04/jtleroy200604

William S Burroughs' Nike Commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6LjfxSBqwM

Cooper's Formalism and "The Sluts": https://electronicbookreview.com/essay/is-this-for-real-is-that-a-stupid-question-a-review-of-dennis-coopers-the-sluts/

Interview w/ Cooper's Biographer: https://minorliteratures.com/2020/07/16/the-dangerous-art-of-dennis-cooper-an-interview-with-diarmuid-hester-author-of-wrong-a-critical-biography-of-dennis-cooper-by-paul-jonathan/

Article BY Cooper's Biographer: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/dennis-cooper-the-last-literary-outlaw-in-mainstream-us-fiction-1.4274856

Personal Relationships in Cooper's Writing (Salon): https://www.salon.com/2000/05/04/cooper/

Cooper's Mother (LA Times): https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-apr-29-ca-cooper29-story.html

BOMB Magazine Interview: https://bombmagazine.org/articles/dennis-cooper/

Not Like Other Gays (Honcho Magazine): https://slavamogutin.com/dennis-cooper/

1:00 Content Warnings

4:00 Drinks

9:00 A Helpful Timeline

14:00 OH Shit, it’s the Frankfurt School

26:00 Sexual, Not Erotic

30:00 The Sad But Not Ballad of Dennis Cooper

42:00 “In Your Lane” vs “Blinkers On”

57:00 Interview Diving

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