Ben Wizner is the Director of the ACLU Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, and primary legal advisor to Edward Snowden. Ben and Leo talk about Edward Snowden and the important role journalism plays as a balance to government intelligence agencies. They also discuss the ACLU's history fighting the Communications Decency Act, the Patriot Act, the secrecy behind the US No Fly List, and Apple's battle against the FBI.

Host: Leo Laporte

Guest: Ben Wizner

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