Jim talks with David Chapman about rethinking nobility for the modern age through his recent "nobility tetralogy" of essays. They discuss character & virtue as "risible" concepts, noblesse oblige & elite education, nobility as intention vs status, "The Battle of Maldon" poem & its lessons, postmodernism & postmodernity, the failure of elite universities, effective altruism & Sam Bankman-Fried, Elon Musk & hubris, meritocracy & institutional change, Nietzsche's master-slave morality, Tolkien's models of nobility, Vajrayana Buddhism's life-affirming approach, software engineers eating the world, meta-rationality & the tech industry, new institutions, visions for a more playful & connected future, and much more.

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"Nobility: table of contents," by David Chapman

"Ofermöd," by David Chapman

"You should be a God-Emperor," by David Chapman

Meaningness, by David Chapman

"Software engineers are eating the world," by David Chapman

"Why Software Is Eating the World," by Marc Andreessen

David Chapman writes and speaks about understanding meaning, purpose, and culture through resolving fundamental, unthought emotional stances that can make us miserable; leveling up technical work by going beyond formal rationality; Vajrayana, the life-affirming branch of Buddhism offering a vaster, brighter, freer way of seeing, feeling, and acting; and artificial intelligence (he has a PhD in it).

Jim talks with Thomas Schindler about heliogenic civilization as a vision for a regenerative future. They discuss the current multipolar trap shitshow of global civilization, M3 money supply & GDP growth requirements, the doubling of energy demand, exit to planet as an alternative to traditional business exits, biomimicry & biological approaches to manufacturing, solar energy as a fusion reactor, nature's material production vs human industrial production, construction systems using earth blocks & natural materials, bioregional self-sufficiency, feminine scaling vs traditional growth models, the Oslo Project as an inverse Manhattan Project, deep ecology & Arne Næss's philosophy, governance structures, education systems as symptoms of industry, coordination among farmers in Kenya, project governance & preventing OpenAI syndrome, Bernard Lietaer's alternative currency experiment, biological computing possibilities, solar energy & hydrogen electrolysis, ocean floor mining & environmental impacts, copper vs aluminum for electrical transmission, material constraints on renewable energy transition, and much more.

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Thomas Schindler's website

In service of Life. | Thomas Schindler's Substack

Project MIRACLE

Auroville Earth Institute

Carbon Crusher

Bind-X

Thomas is co-founder of delodi.net, a mission-driven software studio and the engine behind the not-for-profit initiatives MOTHERLAND, GITA, IRM, and Project MIRACLE. The throughline of his work lies in reimagining how societies generate value—shifting from extractive models to regenerative, life-centered systems that empower local communities. He’s particularly focused on helogenic civilization frameworks, bio-regional material commons, infrastructures of generosity, systemic change methodologies, and the intersections of technology, culture, and ecology. Motivated by the conviction that aligning collective creativity, open protocols, and local agency is essential to address today’s ecological and existential challenges, he writes, speaks, convenes and assemblies to catalyze these conversations and collaborations.

Jim talks with Anders Indset about his book The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, co-authored with Florian Neutkart. They discuss the "final narcissistic injury of humankind," Freud's three historical narcissistic injuries, machine consciousness vs human consciousness, the "undead" state, human cognitive limitations, game theory dynamics & multipolar traps, Artificial Human Intelligence vs AGI/ASI approaches, consciousness preservation, chess AI & human cognition, coevolutionary dynamics between AHI & AGI/ASI, "playing to win" vs "playing to become," organizational design for anticipatory leadership, trust & friction as progress drivers, the three pillars of forging & investment & efficiency, reactive vs reflective societies, technical hygiene, "zombie apocalypse" scenarios, the role of agency, questions of identity & authenticity in an AI world, and much more.

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Wild Knowledge: Outthink the Revolution, by Anders Indset

The Quantum Economy: Saving the Mensch with Humanistic Capitalism, by Anders Indset

The Viking Code: The Art and Science of Norwegian Success, by Anders Indset

Ex Machina: The God Experiment, by Anders Indset and Florian Neukart

The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, by Anders Indset and Florian Neukart

Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion, by Paul Bloom

The Beginning of Infinity, by David Deutsch

Anders Indset is a business philosopher and author of four Spiegel bestsellers, with works translated into over ten languages. He has been recognized by Thinkers50 as one of the most influential thinkers in technology, economy, and leadership. In addition to writing books including The Quantum Economy, Ex Machina, and his newest title, The Singularity Paradox, the Norwegian-born polymath is also Chairman of the Njordis Group, a driving force behind initiatives like the Quantum Economy, and a deep-tech investor. He is a sought-after speaker at conferences such as the World Economic Forum, the Global HR Summit, and the Mobile World Congress.

Jim talks with J. Doyne Farmer about his book Making Sense of Chaos: A Better Economics for a Better World. They discuss deterministic chaos & strange attractors, how chaos makes time possible, bounded rationality, economic equilibrium & Nash equilibrium, traditional economics' failures, standard economic theory basics, "as if" vs "as is" approaches, heterogeneity in economic systems, agent-based modeling & its critiques, the "metabolism of civilization" analogy, financial markets as an ecology of strategies, the Prediction Company experience, climate economics, weather forecasting as an analogy for economic forecasting, energy investment modeling, technology cost curves & climate change solutions, the vision of a "conscious civilization," and much more.

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Making Sense of Chaos: A Better Economics for a Better World, by J. Doyne Farmer

The Eudaemonic Pie, by Thomas A. Bass

A Vast Machine: Computer Models, Climate Data, and the Politics of Global Warming, by Paul N. Edwards

J. Doyne Farmer is Director of the Complexity Economics programme at the Institute for New Economic Thinking and Baillie Gifford Professor of Complex Systems Science at the Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment, University of Oxford. He is also External Professor at the Santa Fe Institute and CEO and Chief Scientist at Macrocosm. His current research is in economics, including agent-based modeling, financial instability and technological progress. He was a founder of Prediction Company, a quantitative automated trading firm that was sold to UBS in 2006. His past research includes complex systems, dynamical systems theory, time series analysis and theoretical biology. His book, Making Sense of Chaos: A Better Economics for a Better World, was published in 2024.

Jim talks with Samuel Arbesman about the ideas in his book The Magic of Code: How Digital Language Created and Connects Our World—and Shapes Our Future. They discuss Sam's motivation for writing the book, the wondering vs. utilitarian stances toward computing, early personal computing experiences, scale in programming, AI as a "hinge of history" moment, the democratization of code through AI tools, the dual nature of code as text & action, analogies between code & magic/mysticism, HyperCard as an early programming tool, the evolution of web development & protocols, layers of abstraction in computing, code golf, imperative vs. functional languages, recursion in programming, tools for thought & note-taking software, numeric modeling & world simulation, agent-based modeling & artificial life, the simulation hypothesis, research into "glitches in the matrix," and much more.

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Overcomplicated: Technology at the Limits of Comprehension, by Samuel Arbesman

The Half-Life of Facts: Why Everything We Know Has an Expiration Date, by Samuel Arbesman

The Magic of Code: How Digital Language Created and Connects Our World—and Shapes Our Future, by Samuel Arbesman

The Orthogonal Bet podcast

"As We May Think," by Vannevar Bush

Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, by Harold Abelson, Gerald Jay Sussman, Martin Henz, Tobias Wringstad

The Art of Computer Programming, by Donald E. Knuth

Network Wars

Numerical Recipes: The Art of Scientific Computing

Samuel Arbesman is Scientist in Residence at Lux Capital. In addition, he is an xLab senior fellow at Case Western Reserve University’s Weatherhead School of Management and a research fellow at the Long Now Foundation. He is the author of The Magic of Code, Overcomplicated, and The Half-Life of Facts, and his writing has appeared in such places as the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, and Wired, where he was previously a contributing writer. He lives in Cleveland with his family. The first computer he used was a Commodore VIC-20.

Jim talks with Mark Stahlman about the new Pope Leo XIV and the Catholic Church's evolving role in a digital age. They discuss Trump as an avatar of the digital paradigm shift, the significance of Leo XIV's name choice, Francis as a thug, Francis's background as chemical engineer and bouncer, Synodality & Church decentralization, the exterior vs interior personas of Pope Francis, Leo XIII's 1891 encyclical Rerum Novarum, the three pillars of Catholic social teaching, financial system reforms and new settlement currencies, the role of Dubai in blockchain/crypto development, multipolar traps & solidarity, generational changes & media consumption, the growth of Catholicism in France despite overall European decline, the Catholic Church's diplomatic efforts and interfaith outreach, the future of global systems, and much more.

JRS EP290 - Mark Stahlman on Trump as the Avatar of the Digital Paradigm Shift

Center for the Study of Digital Life (digitallife.center)

Mark Stahlman's Substack (exogenous.substack.com)

First Things (magazine)

Trivium University (online graduate school mentioned)

Rerum Novarum, by Pope Leo XIII (1891 encyclical)

Quadragesimo Anno, by Pope Pius XI (1931 encyclical)

Centesimus Annus, by Pope John Paul II (1991 encyclical)

Aeterni Patris, by Pope Leo XIII (1879 encyclical)

Return of the Strong Gods, by R.R. Reno

"The Two Popes" (movie)

"Dictator Pope" (book)

God's Diplomats, by Victor Gaetan

Mark Stahlman is a biologist, computer architect and ex-Wall Street technology strategist. He is the President of the not-for-profit Center for the Study of Digital Life (CSDL, 501(c)3,  digitallife.center) and its educational project Trivium University (Triv U, trivium.university). He is also CEO of Exogenous, Inc. (EXO, exogenousinc.com), a strategic risk analysis group and on the editorial staff of its publication, the Three Spheres Newsletter (TSN). He studied for but did not complete advanced degrees in Theology (UofChicago) and Molecular Biology (UW-Mad). He has been widely interviewed and published, including teaching online courses (available on YouTube via 52 Living Ideas).

Jim talks with Daniel Mezick on the theme of games and their relationship to governance. They discuss Jane McGonigal's four properties of games, the nature of authority, position-based vs role-based authority, formal vs. informal authority structures, finite & infinite games, mutable games, the paradox of self-amendment, the U.S. Constitution as a game, progress tracking in governance systems, roles, artifacts, rules, events, Constitutional reforms, problems with a two-party system, unintended consequences in rule design, game theory & system design, gaming virtue, and much more.

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JRS EP151: Daniel Mezick on Ritual and Hierarchy

JRS EP219: Katherine Gehl on Breaking Partisan Gridlock

Reality is Broken: Why Games Make Us Better and How They Can Change the World, by Jane McGonigal

Hierarchy in the Forest: The Evolution of Egalitarian Behavior, by Christopher Boehm

Tribal Leadership: Leveraging Natural Groups to Build a Thriving Organization, by Dave Logan

"The Tyranny of Structurelessness," by Jo Freeman

Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility, by James Carse

"The Paradox of Self-Amendment," by Peter Suber

"Designing the Future," by Jay Forrester

Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play Element in Culture, by Johan Huizinga

Coaching executives and teams in Agile since 2006, Daniel Mezick leads Improving Agility. Daniel has guided dozens of organizations in the art and science of Agile improvement. An author and co-author of three books on organization change, Daniel is a frequent keynote speaker at industry conferences and events. He is the originator of OpenSpace Agility, an engagement model for enabling authentic and lasting organizational improvement. He is also an Advisory Board member and co-Founder of The Open Leadership Network, a certification body and community of practice dedicated to implementing Open patterns and practices inside business enterprises worldwide.

Jim talks with Zak Stein about the psychological and developmental risks of AI in K-12 education. They discuss education vs schooling, technology's role in human-to-human interaction, GPS & skill atrophy, prosthetic vs enhancement technologies, multipolar traps in AI, cognitive diminishment & skill development, teacherly authority, attention as a constrained resource, attention as a service, parasocial attachment, risks of anthropomorphizing AI, object relations theory, bad parenting & AI parenting, Daniel Dennett's proposal about criminalizing misrepresentation, design principles for responsible AI in education, non-anthropomorphic design, age limits, neurological safety, fiduciary security, the transhumanist ideology behind AI development, the need for better cultural & legal frameworks, and much more.

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Education in a Time Between Worlds, by Zachary Stein

JRS Currents 067: Ending Nihilistic Design (with Zak Stein)

JRS EP57: Zak Stein on Education in a Time Between Worlds

JRS EP60: Zak Stein on Educational Systems Collapse

JRS EP62: Zak Stein on Education, Tech & Religion

First Principles and First Values: Forty-Two Propositions on CosmoErotic Humanism, the Meta-Crisis, and the World to Come, by David J. Temple

Reconstructing Value & Preserving Human Freedom In the Age of Artificial Intelligence: Exit the Silicon Maze Vol. 1, by David J. Temple, Marc Gafni, Zak Stein

The Politics of Invisibility: Public Knowledge about Radiation Health Effects after Chernobyl, by Olga Kuchinskaya

"The Problem with Counterfeit People," by Daniel Dennett

Wayfinding: The Science and Mystery of How Humans Navigate the World, by M.R. O'Connor

Dr. Zachary Stein is a Co-Founder of the Civilization Research Institute and the Center for World Philosophy and Religion. He was trained at the interface of philosophy, psychology, and education and now works in fields related to the mitigation of global catastrophic risk. He is a widely sought-after and award-winning speaker and a leading authority on the future of education and contemporary issues in human development.

Jim talks with Daniel Rodriguez about the state of AI software development and its implementation in industry. They discuss Daniel's background at Microsoft & Anaconda, transformer-based technologies, software engineering as hard vs soft science, vibe coding, barriers to entry in software engineering, cognitive styles needed for programming, Daniel's history with LLMs, unit testing & test-driven development with AI, social aspects of AI adoption, quality concerns & technical debt, style consistency & aesthetics, approaches to steering LLMs through roles & personas, philosophical perspectives on LLM consciousness & intelligence, personification & interaction styles, memory & conversation history in models, agent-based systems & their historical origins, the future of agent frameworks, customer/user interaction within agent ecosystems, distributed systems, future predictions about inference costs & protocols, IDEs & linting tools, and much more.

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JRS EP 289 - Adam Levine on AI-Powered Programming for Non-Developers

Daniel Rodriguez is Chief Architect and acting Technical Lead at r.Potential, the first enterprise platform for optimizing hybrid teams of humans and digital workers. As the venture’s overall technical architect, he designs and integrates a full stack of AI systems, combining Agentforce with advanced data, simulation, and orchestration technologies to bring that vision to life. Before r.Potential, Daniel bootstrapped and scaled retrieval-augmented AI services and agentic infrastructure at Anaconda. Earlier, at Microsoft, he maintained Azure TypeScript SDKs and co-created Visual Studio Code’s Jupyter and Data Wrangler extensions, expanding cloud and data-science workflows.

Jim talks with Ryan Blosser about the ideas in his book Mulberries in the Rain: Growing Permaculture Plants for Food and Friendship, co-authored with Trevor Piersol. They discuss the motivation behind writing a permaculture book, the human sector in permaculture design, financial challenges of permaculture farming, 8 forms of capital, food forest design principles, plant guild functions & relationships, persimmons, hunting stories, willows, redbuds, bourbon, black locust properties, rhubarb as a barrier plant, spring bulbs, garlic, Hawaiian adventures, the benefits of tulsi, growing cannabis, uses of comfrey, beets for deer plots, burdock as medicine, community, climate considerations, water management, soil fertility, aesthetics in design, and much more.

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Mulberries in the Rain: Growing Permaculture Plants for Food and Friendship, by Ryan Blosser and Trevor Pearsall

Jitterbug Perfume, by Tom Robbins

Ryan Blosser is a farmer, educator, permaculture designer, writer, and mental health professional. He is co-founder of the Shenandoah Permaculture Institute and owner/operator of Dancing Star Farm. In addition, he holds a teaching license in the State of Virginia and earned an MA and Ed.S. in clinical mental health counseling from James Madison University. Ryan served as Executive Director of Project GROWS, an educational non-profit farm dedicated to growing healthy communities. He also taught permaculture design and gardening in Staunton Public Schools before accepting a position with Waynesboro School, where he directs the continued development of the Waynesboro Education Farm. The intersection of his twin passions for growing food and helping people fuels his unique perspective on building community health and resilience through permaculture design. Ryan lives in Churchville, VA.