In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Larry O’Connor sits down with bestselling author, Daily Wire host, and cultural commentator Andrew Klavan to go far beyond the day's headlines. They break down the legacy and unique role of Donald Trump, how he withstood relentless cultural attacks, and what his rise says about the future of conservatism in America.

Larry and Andrew tackle it all. Klavan explores how culture, not politics, shapes civilizations—and why his latest book, The Kingdom of Cain: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness, offers a roadmap for reclaiming truth through storytelling and faith.

They also dive into Klavan’s fascinating Substack project The New Jerusalem, written in intimate letters with his son, and touch on everything from Andrew Tate’s popularity to the crisis of young men, the woke takeover of education, and why Christian values and Western literature still matter.

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