Alex Wagner is back to speak with a former guest in Hungary about lessons Americans might take from the election defeat of Viktor Orbán that shocked the world.
On the last episode of Trumpland, the team travelled to Budapest to try and learn why Donald Trump and American conservatives were so fixated on authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán’s style of “illiberal democracy” as a possible blueprint for governance in the US. Wagner talked to Hungarians about how Orban had been so successful in consolidating power, how it had impacted everyday people, and what lessons Americans might learn about those who had been spent years resisting.
Given Orban’s monumental election defeat, we came back for a special bonus episode to speak with some of the Hungarians we met last year about what life has been like since election day and what comparisons might be made to political life right here in the US. Alex speaks with Hungarian MP Márton Tompos, who had previously led the opposition Momentum Party.
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Alex Wagner is back to speak with a former guest in Hungary about lessons Americans might take from the election defeat of Viktor Orbán that shocked the world. On the last episode of Trumpland, the team travelled to Budapest to try and learn why Donald Trump and American conservatives were so fixated on authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán’s style of “illiberal democracy” as a possible blueprint for governance in the US. Wagner talked to Hungarians about how Orban had been so successful in consolidating power, how it had impacted everyday people, and what lessons Americans might learn about those who had been spent years resisting. Given Orban’s monumental election defeat, we came back for a special bonus episode to speak with some of the Hungarians we met last year about what life has been like since election day and what comparisons might be made to political life right here in the US. Alex speaks with Hungarian MP Márton Tompos, who had previously led the opposition Momentum Party. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Alex Wagner is back to speak with a former guest in Hungary about lessons Americans might take from the election defeat of Viktor Orbán that shocked the world.
On the last episode of Trumpland, the team travelled to Budapest to try and learn why Donald Trump and American conservatives were so fixated on authoritarian leader Viktor Orbán’s style of “illiberal democracy” as a possible blueprint for governance in the US. Wagner talked to Hungarians about how Orban had been so successful in consolidating power, how it had impacted everyday people, and what lessons Americans might learn about those who had been spent years resisting.
Given Orban’s&nbsp;monumental election defeat, we came back for a special bonus episode to speak with some of the Hungarians we met last year about what life has been like since election day and what comparisons might be made to political life right here in the US. Alex speaks with Hungarian MP Márton Tompos, who had previously led the opposition Momentum Party.
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Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too. New episodes drop every Thursday, starting February 12th. Search for “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” and hit “follow” so you don’t miss an episode.
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Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too. New episodes drop every Thursday, starting February 12th. Search for “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” and hit “follow” so you don’t miss an episode. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels were once at odds as White House staffer and White House reporter. Now they’re friends and colleagues—each co-hosting their own shows at MS NOW. But their off-air conversations are where the real action is. Their new show, “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” is an invitation to their groupchat, the liveliest—and most informative—in news. Whether it’s ICE getting dispatched to the Super Bowl because Bad Bunny’s doing the halftime show, or Nicolás Maduro’s Nike Tech fit, or Michael B. Jordan’s sole Oscar nomination despite playing three roles in Sinners, there is no collision between culture and politics that this show won’t document and decipher. Symone and Eugene see exactly what’s going on—and they want you to clock it, too.&nbsp;New episodes drop every Thursday, starting February 12th. Search for “MS NOW Presents: Clock It” and hit “follow” so you don’t miss an episode.
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