What can church leaders learn from Trump's economic u-turn? How can churches freely preach in public? Can we be gospel optimistic for the UK?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Head of National Ministries), and John Stevens (FIEC National Director) discuss stories in the news over the past weeks and how they relate to church leadership.

You can watch a video of this episode and get more resources for church leaders on the FIEC website: https://fiec.org.uk/resources/trumps-economics-freedom-of-speech-and-a-quiet-revival.

Show notes

• Trump’s ‘Liz Truss moment’: when economic bravado meets market reality (theguardian.com)
• Woman guilty of abortion clinic safe zone breach (bbc.co.uk)
• When does street preaching become anti-social? (bbc.co.uk)
• The Quiet Revival: Gen Z leads rise in church attendance (biblesociety.org.uk)
• Rising Lights (6-10 April, 2026) (fiec.org.uk)

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00:00 - Introduction

01:09 - Trump's bombastic economic leadership

07:46 - Plurality and admitting failures

11:54 - Freedom of speech and Christian persecution

22:31 - The Bible Society's "The Quiet Revival" report

29:48 - Rising Lights at Easter 2026

30:34 - The most wonderful time of the year for Christians