In today's episode, we welcome back Brian Graham, a fan favorite who always brings his unique blend of humor, thoughtfulness, and insight to our discussions.

After our previous episode with Brian, we received an overwhelming response from listeners who wanted to hear more from him. So, we invited him back to chat about his recent trip to the IIDA Industry Roundtable in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Brian and Doug share their biggest takeaways from the event (including their take on the 2022 Oxford Dictionary word of the year....Goblin Mode).

Join Doug and Brian as they explore the significance of placing trust in the universe, embracing risks as a designer, and the crucial role of robust leadership and mentorship in the design industry.

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