In this conversation, Mark and Doug discuss various topics including Doug's birthday, the June fur auction, the Alberta Trappers Association Rendezvous, and the arrest of Paul Watson. They also touch on subjects such as government regulations, international whaling, and the work of the Fur Institute of Canada. In this episode, Doug and Mark discuss the extreme activism of Sea Shepherd and its founder, Paul Watson. They also talk about the listing of the Eastern Wolf as a threatened species and the challenges of managing its population. The conversation then shifts to the awards given out at the FIC AGM, recognizing individuals who have made significant contributions to trapping and fur bearer conservation. Finally, they discuss the sighting of a harbor seal in the Ottawa River, highlighting the changing dynamics of wildlife populations.

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