What if you stopped waiting for the right moment—and just got real with God right now?

This episode of Be Free is as raw as it gets. Jim Burgen, Jesse DeYoung, and Karen Berge talk about the weight people carry, even church staff, and how retreating into “thin spaces” with God opens up places we didn’t want to go… but needed to. It’s honest talk on leadership, brokenness, parenting adult kids, false grace, and the lies culture tells us about freedom. This isn’t about being saved, it’s about living free. And it starts with choosing truth over comfort.

From carrying secret pain to stepping into calling, this is what freedom looks like in real life.

Jim unpacks what happened at the Flatirons staff retreat, tears, confession, silence, healing, and how that led to a bigger realization: freedom isn't one-and-done. It’s truth, then grace, over and over. Forgiveness doesn’t always feel good, but it’s the way forward. The Be Free journey isn’t about behavior, it’s about your heart. And this conversation might be the push you didn’t know you needed.