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Bishop Richard Williamson, a courageous man of faith, passed away on January 29 at the age of 84. He was best-known for the persecution he suffered after made headlines in 2009 for his remarks in an interview with a Swedish television channel:

“I believe the gas chambers did not exist,” he stated “I think 200,000 to 300,000 Jews died in Nazi concentration camps, but not in that way (...). I do not believe six million Jews were gassed.”

By opposing the false religion of Holocaustianity—the unofficial state religion of the Western empire—Bishop Williamson was subjected to various indignities by the modern-day Inquisition.

I was lucky enough to have had several conversations with Bishop Williamson. The audio file above and write-up below is from our August 6, 2017 interview, while the video is from November 2023.

-Kevin Barrett

Write-up for 2017 interview

Bishop Richard Williamson is one of the world’s most notable traditional Catholics. Formerly a leading disciple of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), he is now allied with SSPX Resistance, which aims to uphold the original principles of Archbishop Lefebvre while resisting the “liberal reforms” of the Second Vatican Council. He is now officially outside of the Church as represented by the current leadership in the Vatican. But some say it is Bishop Williamson and his colleagues who are within Catholicism as it has been understood for most of its almost 2,000-year history. As Bishop Williamson says, citing Archbishop Lefebvre, “the truth is still exactly the same Catholic truth. It cannot change!”

In this interview, Bishop Williamson discusses the path that led him to his current position. He asserts that the modern world’s authorities, including the contemporary Vatican, are disciples of the French Revolution, freemasonry, and moral relativism…trends whose ultimate source is satanic. (For more on the sources of this “contamination,” see my interview with Michael Hoffman.)

We also touch on the “sacred” Holocaust and 9/11 narratives, both of which play a foundational role in conditioning populations to accept the rule of the satanic/demonic. (Bishop Williamson’s problems with the official Catholic authorities stem in part from his challenging such official narratives; he is on record saying that 9/11 was an inside joband that the Holocaust is a false religion based on a grossly inflated death toll and false tales of hydrogen cyanide gas chambers – claims that led to his being fined $16,822 by a German court.)

The interview also contains a fair bit of interfaith dialogue. I note that the traditional Catholic worldview, as summarized by Bishop Williamson, is almost identical to the Islamic one. The major exception, as the Bishop forcefully notes, is the Catholic belief in the holy trinity, which Islam rejects.

Excerpt:

Kevin Barrett: When we're trying to speak the truth about empirical issues, whether it's gas chambers or 9-11 or what have you, it does seem that the authorities don't really mind having a chaotic situation where there are people trying to speak some of these suppressed truths, people like us, as long as it just contributes to the chaos. But if we try to say, this is where you're lying, there is a truth here, the whole culture rejects that.

Bishop Richard Williamson: Exactly. Exactly. The whole culture rejects that precisely because the Freemasons are in control. And they hate dogma. They cannot tolerate dogma. So that attitude, that position, the destruction and undermining and dissolution of objective truth, has penetrated inside the Catholic Church. And the Catholic Church is melting like ice in the sunshine. If you subject a dogmatic institution to the dissolving of objective truth, there's very soon not going to be much left of that dogmatic institution. And when you say that today's authorities don't mind what people think, you're right. But a state or a country, a nation in which everybody is free to think two and two are five, and which many people do think two and two are five, or they at least think that two and two can be five, that state is in dead trouble. And that's why the whole modern world today is in dead trouble, because it's forgotten, it's refused objective truth. It's refusing the object.

Now, a number of subjectivists are in good faith. They've learned subjectivism. In other words, there's no objective truth. Two and two can be five. That's what they've learned from their school. That's what they've learned at their university. That's what they've learned in church. That's what they've learned from their parents. A number of poor souls today are wandering around with total confusion in their minds because they've never known any better.

On the other hand, there are a few people who know perfectly well that there's an object of truth, and they are fighting it tooth and nail, because their motivation is to dissolve all truth and make the confusion such that all souls finish up for eternity in the fires of hell.

That's interesting because the Straussian philosophy, which is a kind of a materialistic, atheist, secular materialistic take on a kind of radical Freemasonry, it seems that they are interested in telling big lies and projecting shadows on the walls of Plato's cave to delude the masses and feed them myths and lies, which is what they think religious truths are. They're doing this. apparently because they believe that they, as people who know that there's no such thing as good and no such thing as truth, have the right and the duty to rule over the sheeple who are so deluded as to think there is such a thing as goodness and truth and who are willing to buy myths. So their motivation is to get power for themselves as a kind of a class of supermen, of Nietzschean supermen. And of course, Strauss was a fan of Nietzsche.

And you're saying that it's worse than that. You're saying that it's not just worldly power that they're after, but they're essentially after total spiritual degradation and hellfire for everybody, including themselves. At some deep level, this is a kind of satanically inspired movement.

Yes. That's what's driving the modern world. And you can see it. The Satanism you can see in the pedophilia, the child sacrifice, the Satan worship at the highest levels of government, and not just the United States or just the United Kingdom, but many other nations as well. The devil has got the modern world by the throat. He exists. There's no question about that. And he's got zillions and zillions of mini devils running around at his orders.

There is a chief of evil, and that is Satan. He exists. God has him completely under control. But God uses Satan like a trainer uses a sparring partner for a boxer. The better the sparring partner, the more the boxer will learn, the better the boxer will be trained. If it's a useless sparring partner, the boxer just trips out of his corner, flips a couple of punches, and goes back. But if it's a good sparring partner, the boxer's got to be on his toes and he's got to learn how to box. He's got to get in training.

So Almighty God allows Satan a tremendous amount of power, partly as a punishment of faithless mankind, of truthless, godless, faithless mankind, which is what we've got today. And this humanity of today deserves very severely to be punished, and a very severe punishment is not far away, because God is God and he's not mocked.

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Ori Goldberg, an Israeli Middle Eastern Studies scholar with a focus on Iran, got my attention with his eloquent protests against the Gaza genocide. I emailed him, opening with “Your country may have lost its humanity but I’m glad you haven’t.” Below is a transcript of the beginning of our conversation.

Kevin Barrett: Welcome to Truth Jihad Audiovisual. I'm Kevin Barrett, looking all over the world for people with something important to say that the mainstream isn't attending to. I've been doing that now for, what, two decades plus. And now I am going to Israel, of all places, to talk to Ori Goldberg. I've been looking for an Israeli I can relate to. And most of the Israelis I can relate to have left—people like Gilad Atzmon and Miko Peled. But Ori is still there, and I've been following his X/tweets for a week or so. And they are really eloquent and beautiful. And so I saw his background is actually similar to mine, former academician and Middle East Studies PhD. And we both are kind of disgusted with our own countries and outside of academia now. So I found somebody I can relate to. Hey, welcome, Ori. It's good to have you.

Ori Goldberg: It's just great to be here, Kevin. It's very kind of you to think of me and thank you for all those kind words. Yeah, I know just as well as you do that good conversation is often hard to find and these days much, much more difficult than it was a while ago. So I'm very, very grateful for the opportunity.

Well, I'm grateful for what you've been saying. People can get arrested these days for saying uncomplimentary things about the genocidal Zionist entity. Even just that phrase, maybe it'll get me stopped at the next European airport I go through. And there you are in the belly of the beast, putting out this very, very eloquent…you're not pulling any punches.

Thank you but in a sense it's easier for me than it might be for you because in the belly of the beast, as you say, I am not even a negligible minority. Of course there are people in Israel who think like me and write and talk and try to protest and do all sorts of things, but we really have absolutely no popular sway. And in that sense, it's better to let us spout off than to arrest us, especially since we're Jewish, right? If I was a Palestinian, I would most likely have already been arrested.

Because I'm Jewish, I serve two purposes. I let it be seen that Israel is capable of hearing criticism and dealing with it, not having a tantrum when faced with criticism from Israelis. And also, I demonstrate the resilience of Israeli democracy. We've got freedom of speech here. Anybody can say whatever they want. And it's a cost-benefit analysis, ultimately. I was actually told this by organs of state security that they don't care. They read me. They know what I'm saying. They don't care. They're all for my right to express myself freely.

So it’s easier for me than it is for somebody in Germany, for example, or maybe even in the United States or Australia. Nobody pays any attention to me in Israel. I tweet in English, but that's not the reason. The reason is that... I don't think most of the stuff that I and people like me are saying is something Israelis are capable of even hearing, let alone processing.

I can relate to what you're saying. My background is that I was teaching Intro to Islam etc.—I'd finished my Phd in 2004 Just as I was finishing that I discovered problems with the official account of 9/11. And I started investigating that and writing about it. And the hammer came down in 2006. And I was dragged on to Fox News and CNN, and I spent six months having my 15 minutes of fame as a 9/11 dissident in the United States. And that was a similar situation (to Israel today) in that for a while after 9/11, there was this mass hysteria and very few Americans were speaking out critically. But by the time I was attacked by the media in 2006, it had gotten bigger.

So anyway, I ended up becoming sort of a professional dissident after that because I could no longer teach in the West. And whenever I lectured in Muslim countries—Turkey and Malaysia and Morocco and Iran and so on—the first thing that people would always ask me, was: How can they let you say this stuff? If what you're saying is true, how could they possibly let you talk? And then I explained that I actually talked to former members of state security in the United States who told me things like, hey, that article you just wrote, Kevin, was so good that as many people as it takes would be killed to prevent that article from showing up in The New York Times. But because you're publishing it over here (in alternative media) it actually doesn't matter that much. And the cost-benefit calculation is to let you say it.

These are efficient operations and they know the principles of knowledge control—let's call it that—very effectively. They wrote the book and they know what they're doing and they are very much aware of risks, which is why I can say pretty much whatever I want. I'm off the Israeli radar. Occasionally, I get in trouble, but only if I hit upon a particular exposed nerve. Most of the times I can say whatever, and I've already been written off. I'm (viewed as) not a serious academic. Politically, I am at best naive or a bleeding heart, and at worst, treasonous to the core. But I am what I am, at least at this point.

I don't really understand why we are such a minority. It's just so much easier to tell the truth. It's so much easier to bargain with people in good faith, to find win-win solutions. I don't understand why the powers that be pursue these seemingly bizarre and self-destructive not to mention evil policies.

Yeah. Often, I think it's because the more powerful you get, the greater the illusion you have of being able to control life and death for more people, the dumber you get. In a way, you're effective, you know how to do things, you know how to maintain your operation in tip-top condition, but what happens when you maintain that sort of operation is that more and more of your resources are necessary for the simple maintenance. Because at heart these—I'll call them operations for lack of a better word—they're founded on deceit and oblivion: lies and nothing. And if you don't invest a lot of effort in extolling and defending the structural integrity of the edifice that you built on top of lies and nothing, then ultimately it collapses because it's founded on lies and nothing. So you have to devote a great deal of effort to simply perpetuating, and if possible, expanding, but simply perpetuating that structural integrity, which is bogus to begin with. And if you do that, you get to be very, very efficient at doing it, but you gradually lose sight of not just of the truth, but of the world, of basic human standards, not even in terms of morals, but just how humans behave.

Let me just say something about things that are happening as we speak. A lot of Israelis, a lot of my friends on the Israeli left, were really certain that Israel will not allow the displaced, ethnically cleansed, potentially, Gazans, to return to the ruins of their homes in the northern Gaza Strip. They were absolutely sure that Israeli fighter planes will simply bomb these people or that Israeli snipers will open fire and that they will simply go back where they came from.

It was very obvious to me that as soon as Israel will be faced with a critical mass of Palestinians, Israel will be able to do nothing. It may be able to kill a few. It may be able to try and disrupt. It may even keep them at bay for two days as it negotiates with Hamas. But if these people are there, these people will return, because there's nothing Israel can do that can stop them. Why? Because that's the dynamics of human behavior. It has nothing to do with morality. If you are operating with a heavily armed military and the entire raison d'etre of your operation is that you have the power, and if you are faced with people who say, “well, okay, do your worst. We've got nothing to lose. We've got nothing to return to anyway.” And if they congregate in large enough numbers, that army is paralyzed.

And again, not because we can talk for days about how this is a good thing and how life defeats death. I've written about that. But in this case, it's just simple human behavior. The thing is, when you're used to seeing the world through the sights of an assault rifle, or you're used to planning strategic operations, or simply maintaining a repressive occupation that for decades and decades does not let people live, lift their heads, that's how you see the world. You see it all in terms of a very distorted power balance, and you simply don't have a clue about the way human beings behave in human situations.

And that's exactly why what's happening now is happening. That's Israel's failure. It's not clever negotiations on the part of the Palestinians. Hamas is not necessarily a very clever organization. It's just a human situation to which Israel was completely oblivious because we have been in the business of dehumanization for so long that we've gone and dehumanized ourselves. Sorry, I was ranting, but it's just a very, very clear demonstration of what you were saying.

Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And again, it sort of does puzzle me how that dehumanization can reach that level. I've been calling attention to polls of Israeli public opinion showing 90%-plus Jewish Israelis approve of all of these completely genocidal, self-destructive policies, and trying to figure that out. In America, most people don't realize that. They think there's this Israeli left, and (Israeli public opinion) is evenly split between the liberal Israelis who are really just like us, and the other half of them who are crazy settlers. (Americans think) the (liberal) half are basically normal. But no, they're not, are they?

Not in that sense, no. The consensus about the genocide is probably the broadest, most sweeping Israeli consensus I've ever seen. But even there, before we can definitely talk about reasons or how this happened, it's really important to note the very immediate human aspects of the situation. The great majority of Israelis did not support the genocide because they are sworn to bringing about as many Palestinian deaths as possible. The great majority of Israeli citizens supported the genocide because they really thought that it might work: It might remove the Palestinian problem. They were willing to—and I say this, of course, tongue in cheek—they were willing to suffer the indignities of being genocidaires. If it works. Because they knew—and I think, by the way, that they were not wrong—that if it worked, the world would just give Israel carte blanche.

I think that's one of the reasons why the international community basically supported this genocide, because they thought we could pull it off. And had we been able to pull it off, I don't know that much would have been done. But at some point...

What would “pull it off” mean? Like getting Egypt to accept them or what?

Yeah, driving them off the land, basically. Or forcing them to stay with a clear understanding of their status, which is a subject of the Israeli empire.

Well, good luck with that.

As you can see, obviously, abject failure. And I think at some point, we've been living a life that is defined by a broad variety of cognitive dissonances here. Those Israelis who your Western friends assumed, or your American friends assumed, were liberals just like them—they really see themselves as liberals. They protest against Netanyahu. They want a country that is less overtly religious. They want to curb settler influences. They call them messianics and fanatics and see themselves as standing on the other side of the barricade as a fight for Israel's soul. They think of the Netanyahu government as crazy and not even crazy, befuddled. Settlers are crazy, but the government is befuddled. They're just not up to it.

That's on the one hand. But on the other hand, they all support Netanyahu's policies with regard to the war. Nobody comes out and says—for months and months and months—nobody comes out and says the war has to end. The public even struggles about the hostages. They've only been saying that for like a month and a half now, two months maybe at most. Until then, nobody said those words because Israelis think that this is the most justified war Israel has ever fought. And it's not a genocide, and even if it is, so what? We have to do it. We're just resolving the problem.

So as long as you can hold that dissonance, as long as it seems coherent, then it works just fine. Repression, inner repression, is the most effective defense mechanism known to man. The problem is that once it fails, it fails completely and absolutely. Once you can no longer believe your own lies, then you just see the world differently. You can't accept it anymore. And I think that shift is what has been occurring in Israel. I think our prime minister, who's not an ideologue by any means, understands this. I think he wants to leverage this to his own political benefit. He wants to be the leader who fought the necessary war, but also brought the necessary peace. And I think this is all very much a political thing for Israelis now about Israel.

Because see,—the really big point here, as far as I'm concerned, is that we really don't acknowledge the existence of anyone else except Israelis. We are the only real people in the world. Palestinians, of course, more than most (are not human) because they tried to kill us. But it starts with Israel and it ends with Israel.

What extent is that a settler colonial thing and to what extent is that a Jewish thing?

I think it's more of a Jewish thing historically and politically than it is a settler colonial thing. It's settler colonial in the sense that our sense of self is constructed on a very, very deep-seated sense of supremacy. The whole notion of the Jewish state just for Jews, which obviously means that people who live here who are not Jews must be inferior to Jews to provide Jews with the proper status for maintaining a Jewish state. So in that sense, very much a settler colonial project. Even if I will get in trouble with some of my friends who will explain why Zionism is not settler colonialism, it doesn't matter. That part of it is part of the colonialist heritage.

But the very radical collapse of the supremacy that occurred on October 7th, 2023, brought about shift. It's no longer about supremacy. It's about solipsism. Our supremacy failed. There's no way we can restore it. That's obvious. This wasn't just the defeat in the war. This was the resurgence of all of our demons. Our id kind of traded places with our superego. And the only way we could come to terms with that was by replacing the supremacy with solipsism. It's not just about a hierarchy now. It's about what's real and what isn't real. And the only real thing is that “they are animals who are trying to kill us. Not all of them. Or let's say some of them are wolves, even if most of them are sheep.”

I remember encountering that in some Israeli literature. I remember being told Amos Oz was supposedly some liberal Israeli writer and then reading his fiction. His jackals and desert reptiles are obviously stand-ins for Palestinians.

He is the Ulfata of Israeli liberalism, Zionist liberalism. The animal metaphor is there, very easy to evoke. And the Hamas attack massacre of October 7, 2023, made the animal metaphor very accessible. “Because they're animals. Who does this if not animals? We're not animals because we bombed from above. We've got fighter planes, assault rifles and tanks and bulldozers. We do it, you know, war is unfortunate. We have to do this, but at least we have the grace to admit that it is unfortunate. We don't do it with the glee that they do it.”

People who are not exposed to Israeli discourse would be, I think, surprised by how much of it is inundated with talk about intent, even more so than the actual actions, intent that reflects the true inner nature of Hamas and by proxy of Gazans generally and by proxy of all Palestinians. But the point is that “once this happened, they are beyond the pale. There's no talking to them. They're not people. So we don't want to kill them. We want to kill the bad ones. We don't want to kill everybody. But if they're there, if the bad ones are hiding amongst them, they're using them as human shields, what are we to do?”

And that raises a question of that reaction that you're describing, which does remind me a lot of the American reaction after 9/11, although that reaction did dissipate fairly quickly. But it raises the question of to what extent is that reaction built on anything from discernible reality? And to what extent is it built actually on lies that are at some level known to be lies? Rene Girard had developed this whole theory, an anthropological view of human nature, that all human societies are based on sacrifice, which is ultimately lynching a scapegoat and then lying about it. And the actual lies create the myth that is the foundational myth for the human community. And truth wouldn't work. It has to be lies.

So in this case, I wonder, just as with 9/11, where we had just a blatantly obvious lie. It's obvious to anyone with eyes that those buildings are coming down in explosive demolitions. They're not randomly falling down from building fires, jet fuel kindled office fires. At some level, everyone knows this. So I'm wondering if in Israel, is there some level where people realize that the IDF appears to have killed probably the majority of civilians who died on October 7th? And that the behavior of Hamas soldiers was, as far as we can tell, exemplary, based on Israel's inability to find any evidence of war crimes from the hundreds and hundreds of cameras that the Hamas fighters all wore. (And were recovered from dead or wounded Hamas fighters.) And that indeed atrocities committed that day were presumably committed by angry non-Hamas people who streamed out of Gaza and opportunistically committed crimes, although there don't appear to have been all that many of those either.

So based on what I've seen, it looks like the whole narrative of the horrible Hamas atrocities of October 7th is a complete lie. And I wonder if the fact that it's a complete lie actually is the reason that it's been so effective.

Well, I think I disagree with you there, Kevin. 9/11, I don't know. I know you learned the research, and it seems logical. But I don't know. About what happened on October 7, I've heard it's the word atrocity that is so laden with baggage, exactly because of the need to push those who committed it beyond the pale to make them not eligible for negotiation or interaction or communication. That's the point. As far as I know, both Hamas and Gazan civilians committed horrible crimes. To the best of my knowledge, the behavior of Hamas soldiers was not exemplary.

It didn't just end with killing Jews. To the best of my knowledge, Hamas committed war crimes and crimes against humanity that day. But I have to tell you the truth. I don't need to absolve Hamas of having done that. I don't need to accuse Israel of having orchestrated October 7 to talk about what's happening in Gaza right now. The whole notion of the balance of what lets you do these things or get off the hook or gives you validation…I find it redundant to the discussion. I think that sort of puts it into a context that many people find off-putting and best, not that I care that they do, and also a context that may have a powerful effect on revealing the most factual of truths but is rarely conducive, I think, to political action.

So what's the best way then to bust through that myth of Hamas and Palestinians as vicious animals?

Just for me, and I'm only speaking personally, okay? For me, it's the convictions, based on my reading, knowledge of psychology, of Palestinians, of such accusations in past contexts, that human animals—let's call them that without insulting the animals—are exceedingly rare everywhere you look. Human beings are human beings. That's not to say that they're good necessarily or kind. It's to say that they are capable of exhibiting a whole host of behaviors, including rage, lethal violence, abuse and negation of their victims. That doesn't make them inhuman as far as I'm concerned. That's part of being a human being.

Isn't there a place to talk about the empirical reality? Honestly, I don't understand how anybody who studies intensively the available material on October 7th could ever conclude that this was a particularly heinous kind of operation and that the behavior of the Hamas soldiers was particularly heinous compared to other military situations.

As you talk about the particularity of it, I think that's the part where I…I don't think it's particularly heinous. I think it's heinous and I find it horrible. And I was traumatized just like all of my compatriots on October 7th. But as Israel began bombing Gaza, having lifted all existing defenses for civilians as part of his bombing campaign, it was very clear to me that Israel was committing a crime, okay? And that is what I'm interested in. That is the point around which my moral and political compass revolves. I think you can't resolve crimes with crimes. And once that happens, I'd like to stop the crimes from being committed.

Now, I do think Hamas committed severe crimes on October 7th. I think Israel was responsible for a lot of civilian death there. But I do think Hamas committed severe crimes. Having said that, Hamas committed those crimes on October 7th, Israel has been committing them for 15 months in really unbelievable, ungraspable dimensions. And the moment where my countrymen begin to say, well, you know, they…I'm not even talking about the lies. The lies are certainly there, and we all know them, about the “beheaded children,” a lot of lies.

But I'm not even talking about the lies. I'm talking about the truth. Kidnapping as though a kidnapping mother with two young children is worse than pulverizing a house that is home to a family of 11 and leaving those 11 bodies buried in the rubble until somebody comes and salvages them, which most likely will not happen. That is the part where I lose it, where Israel claims moral superiority because what they did was so much worse. I think what they did was horrible. I think what we're doing is horrible. I'd like to apply, I won't call them objective standards, but basic standards like the passage of time, like repetitiveness, like the existence of a pattern. For me, it's obvious that if you do something for 15 months, then you don't do it by accident. You don't do it through chance. I don't know that we can talk about that if there's a plan in place, but it is criminal behavior that is not just worthy of sanctions and punishment and must be stopped. It's criminal behavior that is so all-pervasive that it shapes Israeli society.

We do it, and then it shapes us right back in its own image. After 15 months of a genocide, we are not the same society we were. The genocide is not simply an expression of the evil that is Israel. Of course, we are changed. It is like Yeats' Easter 1916. Changed utterly, not just changed. That is where I am. That's where my sense of morality, but also my strategic understanding and my political will, that is their rallying point. I want to fight that and I want to stop these crimes and I want to criticize them as vocally and as consciously as I can.

Because part of what genocide does is it dumbs you down. It subjugates your entire being. It demands that you fully devote yourself not to killing Palestinians with your bare hands or with an assault rifle, although a lot of Israelis have done that with a fighter plane, but to allowing it, to enabling it, to staying silent about it, to saying it's unfortunate, but what else are you going to do? That takes...a remarkable amount of energy and that energy could have been invested in first of all stopping it, and also in ending the evils that we do and have been perpetrating every day for decades: ending the occupation and reaching a settled solution. So I am less concerned with what you call empirical truth. I am satisfied with the knowledge not that there was symmetry, but that there was an almost unlimited amount of horror.

And I can't have it stop at October 7th, which is another zany aspect of Israeliness over the past 15 months. It's as though everything stopped on October 7th. The passage of time stopped. That is something that infuriates me, I think, as a person.

And that actually points at what I was getting at about the Girard sacrificial myth template. The experts in the construction and maintenance of public myths like Philip Zelikow, who ran the 9-11 commission investigation, know that societies tend to be based on these sacrificial events that split time into a before and an after, as Zelikow wrote in 1998 when he wrote about what would happen if the World Trade Center were destroyed. And he said that time would be split into a before and an after, and nobody would remember what life had been like before it happened. And of course, that happened on September 11th 2001.

And likewise, with October 7th, we see the same pattern. There's a sacrificial event. There is…I would argue that the gross falsification of the reality of the event is critically important—you don't have to agree with that—but but then it splits time into a before and an after. And the myth, the lie about that event, then becomes the foundation for the new society that emerges…

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On December 10, 1896, a new king seized the throne in Paris: King Ubu. It happened during the one and only public performance of Alfred Jarry’s play Ubu Roi, which begins with a bloodcurdling scream “sheeeeee-it!” and only gets more vulgar from there.

When Trump was first elected president in 2016, quite a few commentators noticed that Trump is an American Ubu. As Charles Simic explained in the New York Review of Books:

The only character I can think of in the world literature who resembles Donald Trump is Père Ubu in the play Ubu Roi (“Ubu the King”) by Alfred Jarry that famously opened and closed in Paris on December 10, 1896, after starting a riot. A parody of Shakespeare’s Macbeth and now a classic of the theater of the absurd and the forerunner of the Dada and Surrealism movements, the play is a depiction of the lust for power, full of insolent nonsense and violent horseplay. Père Ubu is a buffoonish pretender to the throne of Poland, a brutal and greedy megalomaniac who, after killing off the royal family, starts murdering his own population in order to rob them of their money. One audience member at the premiere of the play, the Irish poet William Butler Yeats, was aghast at what he had witnessed and reputedly said afterward: “What more is possible? After us, the Savage God.”

That’s how elites are reacting to Trump’s chaotic restoration: “What more is possible? After us, the Savage God.” But the commoners are cheering. They like Trump’s “deport ‘em all” rhetoric, his trashing of DEI and gender-bending, his withdrawal from the WHO and banning gain-of-function research, his threatening political enemies with retribution (including revoking Secret Service protection for Pompeo and Bolton), his releasing assassination records, banning censorship and saving TikTok, pardoning the J-6 protestors and abortion protestors, banning Central Bank Digital Currencies…and above all, promising to restore economic prosperity for working people….though the details, involving invasions of Greenland and Canada and Panama, trade wars and tariffs against the whole world, and ending restrictions on drilling for oil and gas, more tax cuts for the rich, even more lavish and wasteful military spending, and so on, are questionable.

Though Trump’s gangsterish threats to Pompeo and Bolton are both entertaining and defensible, his genocide-endorsing call to “clean out” Gaza of its human population is Ubu-esque in the bad sense. Trump’s incitement to genocide, which in a civilized world would trigger his summary execution, is presumably related to Kosher Nostra son-in-law Kushner’s plan to develop the ‘very valuable’ potential of Gaza’s ‘waterfront property’ and make billions of dollars for ubu-rich Jewish genocidal gangsters like himself.

Was Alfred Jarry an Antisemite?

It is of course a well-known antisemitic trope that rich Jews are excruciatingly vulgar and greedy beyond belief.* If they weren’t robbing us blind, robbing the Palestinians even blinder (not to mention deader), committing an in-your-face genocide while mendaciously inverting their own racist history of despising and persecuting and dispossessing goyim, and generally crying out while they strike you—putting Western peoples, Middle Eastern peoples, and planet Earth in extreme jeopardy—we would all be rolling on the ground laughing at their Ubu-esque psychopathy.

Which raises the question: Since Ubu seems in many respects a quintessential Jew, was Jarry’s play a satirical depiction of the Jewish conquest of power in the West? In other words, was Jarry an antisemite? Should he be reported to the ADL so his works can be banned and his name first smeared, then forgotten, as has happened to most of the other great Western thinkers and creators who noticed the rise of Père Jewbu?

Since I don’t have Jonathan Greenblatt on speed-dial, I called on the next best thing, ChatGPT, to find out whether Jarry was an antisemite. The AI Oracle, which is hilariously wrong about almost everything,** told me:

There is no definitive, concrete evidence that Jarry was an antisemite in the same overt or systematic way that some of his contemporaries, like Charles Maurras, were. However, there are aspects of his life and works that have raised concerns about his attitude toward Jews…Have you come across any specific examples of his work or writings that made you wonder about this?

I pointed out: “When Ubu Roi was written, the ‘vulgar, greedy Jew’ was a common antisemitic trope.”

ChatGPT answered:

You're absolutely right to point out that Ubu Roi contains elements that, through a modern lens, could be seen as reflecting harmful stereotypes, including the "vulgar, greedy Jew" trope. Pere Ubu, the central character, is depicted as a grotesque, corrupt, and power-hungry figure, which in the context of early 20th-century Europe, could be interpreted as a kind of parody or distortion of antisemitic caricatures that were widespread at the time. These stereotypes were deeply embedded in European culture, and Jarry, in his extreme, satirical style, certainly seems to be using them.

MERDRE! Guilty as charged!! String him up! Disembowel him! Poke his eyes out with a stick! Burn every last copy of Ubu Roi in the Auschwitz Incinerator!

And as for Donald Trump…no less of an authority on antisemitism than the insufferable Bernard Henry-Levi, Europe’s leading pro-genocide (i.e. Jewish-Zionist) intellectual, thinks Trump seems like an antisemite and is definitely an Ubu.

Today, the prevalent stereotype is that antisemites are the vulgar ones, while Jewish elites are the effete, polished, well-mannered genocidal scumbags like Bernard-Henry Levi. So Trump-Ubu must have learned his New York City real-estate-shyster manners from acolytes of Hitler rather than from ex-porn king turned 9/11 insurance fraudster Larry Silverstein.

In any event, Trump’s Ubu-esque qualities, as horrifying as they often are, can also be not only entertaining, but refreshing. Though he may not be literally the Antichrist, Trump is definitely one of the outriders of the Apocalypse, a term whose root meaning is unveiling. Whereas Biden hid everything, from the JFK files to genocidal-Jewish control of the White House to his own accelerating dementia, Trump lets it all hang out: “The Jews own me! So let’s murder the Gazans and drive the survivors into Egypt and put up luxury hotels!” Ubu couldn’t have said it better.

Greedy, power-hungry people have always tended towards brutal vulgarity. But since Jewish bankers replaced royalty and nobility in Europe during the 19th century (a process satirized in Ubu Roi) and then replaced America’s WASP elites after World War II (with the two key moments being the JFK and 9/11 coups) the world in general, and the Western Empire in particular, has fallen into a black hole where brutal vulgarity endlessly accelerates towards infinity.

And now Trump, our present day King Ubu, presides over that black hole.

*Please note that even if I endorsed this antisemitic trope, I would only be talking about rich Jews, not middle class and poor ones.

**I contribute paid articles to two publications, American Free Press and Crescent International, and frequently need to dig up, verify, and source quotes. When I try to do this via ChatGPT, it lies outrageously and just keeps on lying. For example, I asked it: “Can you give me the specific quote in which Trump said he had figured out that it's the Israelis, not the Palestinians, who don't want a deal?” ChatGPT replied: “Yes, I can! The specific quote you're referring to is from a 2020 interview with Axios on HBO, where Trump said:

"I’ve come to the conclusion that, for the most part, the Israelis don’t want to make peace... and I’ve seen it, and I’ve read it, and I’ve heard it.”

But thats b******t. Trump never said that. ChatGPT just made it up, like it makes up fake versions all the quotes I search for.

I responded: “I tried to find that quote and come up empty. Are you sure Trump really said that?”

You're right to be skeptical—upon double-checking, I realize I made a mistake in providing that specific quote. I can't find any record of Trump saying those exact words in the Axios interview or any other official interview. I appreciate your patience!

So then I ask for a correct quote, and the same thing happens again, and again, and again, with ChatGPT making up an endless series of fake Trump quotes, and then apologizing when I point out that they’re fake. This is intelligence? I mean, how hard can it be for an AI to verify whether or not a specific string of characters i.e. a quote has been cited, between quotation marks, in the media? Search engines could do that, easily and quickly, more than 20 years ago! But now they, too, are maddeningly incapable of such simple and important tasks. It’s almost like somebody doesn’t want us to accurately understand our own history…

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NASA whistleblower Richard Cook critiques Alexander Dugin on Trump’s revolution and notes Blinken/Biden’s blood-soaked legacy.

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I spend a lot of time in the hinterlands. The flyover zone, you might say. I have very strong ties and contacts in Texas. And the anger

that has been building, particularly in the last four years with the Biden administration, and all that has happened in the United States with the woke culture, this anger is very palpable. And there are tens of millions of ordinary people in the United States whose sense of betrayal and disgust with the Democratic Party and its woke culture finally burst.

And it's not only that. I am very much in favor of the initial actions to close the border, to begin the deportations, and to declare the drug gangs terrorist organizations. That has been a long time coming as well. I have close contacts in the Department of Homeland Security. One of the lead people that I've talked to actually was down on the Texas border watching the Mexican Army escort drug gangs across the border. This is a very real phenomenon that has been corrupting American life now for quite a long time.

I also have spent a good bit of time in Montana the last few years. And you go on to an Indian reservation and you talk to people and you read the accounts of what's been going on out there, that they have been subject to an invasion of Mexican drug gangs. Some of these people drive in from California, chiefly, or in some cases, Washington State. They are picked up by the police with carloads of fentanyl and loaded guns that they then unload on the Indian reservations. And I even told somebody who was questioning me about this, “why don't you and I go out there and we'll go to a morgue and we'll see how many of the bodies in the morgue are of Indians who've died of fentanyl overdoses. And then we'll go to a federal district court where these drug gangs are on trial and we'll see what names they go by and we'll see what they bring in and then we'll see the prison sentences they get.” And if you do that and actually talk to the real people on the ground in this country, you realize the disaster that's been unfolding here for so long.

And quite honestly, the news about Ukraine, even the news about Israel, is kind of far away to the people who elected Trump. And what I have said is that Trump is riding a populist wave. Who knows what the guy really believes about a lot of things. You witness his impromptu press conference in the Oval Office, where he says “I think Spain is in BRICS, isn't it?” And you begin to question, who's this guy talking to?

Well, that's the S, right?

Where is he getting his information? So it's a complex situation. But I have written in one of my publications, the e-book I published with Global Research. The title is World War III is on and America Has Lost Already. The American Civil War has begun. And the only salvation for humanity is spiritual. But the Civil War is on. And the Civil War very much follows the pattern of the Republicans and the Democrats as we saw them back in 1860, with Trump playing the Lincoln role and Biden playing whatever role he played. Biden, Harris, whoever they are.

But the battle lines are the same, and what Trump is doing is he's recreating the American system that the Republicans were trying to create in 1860, and that the Republican presidents continued to create throughout most of the 19th century. And it's no accident that Trump has shown himself to be a big fan of William McKinley, because William McKinley was the last great Republican president, the last Republican president who believed in the American system, the American economic system. And a cornerstone of the American system was tariffs. The McKinley tariff, which actually was passed not when McKinley was president, but when he was in Congress before that, was the cornerstone of American economic policy all the way up to the start of the 20th century. And so it's no accident that Trump somewhere has in his entourage a speech writer who knows about William McKinley.

Didn't the banksters assassinate McKinley?

Yeah, they did. It was another one of these lone gunman things. And the guy who took over from McKinley was Theodore Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt was a British fifth columnist at the head of our government. The LaRouchies have documented this pretty well, and I have too in my book, Our Country Then and Now. And it was Theodore Roosevelt who opened the floodgates to the money trust and the Rothschild takeover of the banking system in America and produced the Federal Reserve system of 1913.

And so what Trump is doing is he's hearkening back to the pre-Federal Reserve days. He's criticizing the interest rates of the Federal Reserve. He wants the Federal Reserve rates to come down because as everybody knows, that's the only way you're gonna get economic growth in the United States. The high interest rates that were installed by the Federal Reserve during the Biden administration were largely to benefit British banking interests by restoring to them the flow of interest out of the United States into their own coffers after the Federal Reserve had cut rates almost to zero. Trump wants them to cut them almost to zero again, because that will lead to a cheap money situation that will feed American industry. It's part and parcel of the high tariff policy. They go together.

And so what we're seeing on the domestic front are these developments that are very much in line with very, very old, venerable Republican and Whig party doctrines. And the people who live in the flyover states, that is all the states between New York and California, love it. They see their jobs coming back again. They see communities that have been destroyed by unemployment and drugs having a chance once more to regenerate themselves. And this is the hope, this is the wave that this New York City boy is riding. I guess it corresponds with his instincts, I don't know.

But to these people, all of these, the Ukraine war makes no sense at all. And so Trump is going to bring that to a sharp end, we hope.

The situation in Israel is much more complicated. And it's much more complicated because the people in the heartland go to church, and so many of the Protestant ministers, and even Catholics in a lot of cases, are Christian Zionists. And the Christian Zionists have totally swallowed the line of greater Israel that goes back to the early 20th century, the Schofield Bible that you are familiar with and all that stuff. So they're conflicted. They're very, very conflicted on the Israel situation. And I think that's where the real danger lies.

Also, the military has been a primary employment source for people in the heartland ever since really going back to the Civil War for generations. And the government put all these military bases in the South. And that's the way the New South was built. It was built by federal money pouring in to the military bases and giving a decent job to thousands, maybe millions of young people in the South and Midwest who couldn't get work otherwise because all the factories were sent to China.

The South more than the Midwest. The Midwest is kind of the hole in the military spending donut.

Yeah, you're right. Way more in the South.

The military spending is on the coasts, all of the coasts: the East Coast, the West Coast and the South Coast. And right there in the middle and especially the upper Midwest, Wisconsin, where I'm from—that's called the hole in the military spending donut. Wisconsinites pay high taxes for military spending. It all gets spent somewhere else…

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Mr. Barrett, it's great to have you with us. What message do you think the Al Ghassan Brigades, the military wing of Hamas, are sending by releasing this recent footage? And also, what does this show about the effectiveness of the Palestinian resistance?

This is yet another indication that the Israeli genocidal war on Gaza was a complete abysmal failure, especially from a military perspective. The announced goal of the Israelis was to completely eliminate Hamas and to free all of their captives through military action. And that, of course, was a pipe dream from the very beginning. But their failure to accomplish that was absolutely spectacular. And we saw from these videos that when the Zionists pulled out from Gaza as this ceasefire deal comes into effect: they backed off under fire, under very heavy fire.

And that right up until these last moments that the Islamic resistance movement in Gaza is a formidable military presence there. So this has just underlined what we saw throughout this entire period, this 15-month genocide. The Israelis were very much capable of randomly murdering women and children, but they were utterly ineffective in confronting their military peers, the Hamas forces that overran them on October 7th and humiliated them in several stand up battles at military centers close to Gaza. That was what Scott Ritter memorably called the greatest military raid of the century.

That military defeat of Israel on October 7th has been followed by a much longer period of military defeats. And of course not it's not just that the Israeli military is ineffective in this kind of fighting. Maybe they're too cowardly to go into the tunnels and risk their lives in great numbers. And maybe they just don't have the the wherewithal or the stamina for this kind of difficult fighting. But I think the real fault on the Israeli side goes straight up to the leadership, that is, to Netanyahu, who got into this situation for political reasons, pursued a genocide for political reasons, set objectives that couldn't possibly be realized for political reasons.

And now it's all blown up in his face and blown up in the face of the Zionist entity. And this is a crushing defeat, a historic defeat that will be viewed in retrospect as a landmark in the liberation of Palestine.

Mr. Barrett, you just mentioned the issue of war crimes being committed by the Israeli regime there. What steps, in your opinion, must be taken to prosecute the Israeli war criminals in international courts? In other words, how can the issue of accountability begin to take shape?

We're living in a new world now where accountability through international law is going to be…perhaps not what it should be, but it's going to be more possible. It's a real possibility in ways that it wasn't in the past. And there are two reasons for that.

One is that the United States Empire, which has always insisted on impunity for itself and its so-called allies… though Israel is not a U.S. ally, because it will not officially declare its borders because it wants to keep stealing more territory. For that reason, the US is prevented by law from actually forming an official alliance with Israel. But nonetheless, the Zionists are so powerful in the United States, with Jewish Zionist billionaires owning much of the media, much of the financial system, and most of the politicians, that the Americans can extend this umbrella of impunity over the Israelis. The thing is, though, that the American empire is starting to totter. And we have a president and a new administration now in the United States that explicitly recognizes that the days in which the U.S. could pretend to rule the world through alliances and impose its will on Europe and on Asia and on Africa and so on through this system of alliances and international institutions that were built up after the Cold War, is now falling apart. And indeed, the US war on Russia through Ukraine is also a war on Western Europe. And Western Europe is starting to wake up to this after its economy has been devastated because the US has plundered Europe by essentially cutting off industrial Europe and Germany from Russian gas, and selling Europe extremely overpriced American gas in its place. So the United States is plundering the world. And now it's nakedly out for itself with this Trump administration. And these alliances are gonna break down. That means that Europe will prosecute Zionist war criminals in the future because it won't be intimidated by the United States. And the rest of the world will also be more independent in the future. And the whole world is horrified by this genocide. The United States is really the only country with the leadership that's fully behind this genocide. So other countries other than the United States are going to be able to prosecute these war criminals. The ICC, the ICJ, which Trump hates, well, they're not going to obey the Americans when some ugly American leader like Trump that everybody in Europe hates is insulting them. So they're likely to be even more independent in the future than they are now.

And so that's one reason that the Zionists will be prosecuted. The other reason is that we have facial recognition technology and the Zionist war criminals have posted themselves committing war crimes. Thousands of them have done this. And we can find them wherever they go. If they leave Israel, we can find them. We can track them down. We can go after them. We can perform citizen's arrests. We can have authorities arrest them. There's one of them that's actually under arrest here in Morocco right now. And if the Zionists dare to come to Morocco or to Europe or to any other country except the United States they will be identified and they will be arrested.

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James Perloff leads off with a discussion of “Donald Trump: Rebranding Globalism as Nationalism.” Then Eric Walberg weighs in on the Hamas victory that has unsettled “Israel.” May the unsettlement be completed soon.

Transcript excerpt:

James Perloff: You and I did a show about Trump’s cabinet. We looked at the fact that every person in a key strategic person was a Zionist, pro-Israel, anti-Iran, pro-war, and that is in perfect alignment with his first administration. And we talked about the things he did in that administration. But regarding Trump's rebranding of globalism as nationalism: Here's what Trump said on Truth Social, and this is this year, January the 6th, 2025. He said, “many people in Canada love being the 51st state. The United States can no longer suffer the massive great deficits and subsidies that Canada needs to stay afloat. Justin Trudeau knew this and resigned.” Actually, I think Trudeau resigned because he knows something really bad is about to happen. But anyway, continue with Trump's quote. He said, “if Canada merged with the U.S., there would be no tariffs, taxes would go way down, and they would be totally secure from the threat of Russian and Chinese ships that are constantly surrounding them together with a great nation it would be!!!”

Now, a lot of people dismiss this and they say, well, Trump's not serious about that. He's just talking. But two days later, he had a press conference and at that press conference, he suggested that Greenland should be incorporated in the United States. I've got the links on my web article. His remarks were dismissed again as being facetious. But just two days later, he sent Donald Trump Jr. to Greenland, which kind of underscores the seriousness of what he's talking about.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, if he sent two or three armed bodyguards alongside Donald Trump Jr., he probably could have taken Greenland right there.

That's a good one. That's probably true. It wouldn't take a lot to conquer Greenland. But it’s being heralded to Trump followers as MAGA. It's making America great again to absorb these other nations. But I’m a student of the New World Order. My first book came out in 1988, The Shadows of Power: The Study of the Council of Foreign Relations. Those guys are the power brokers or at least until 9-11 they were the main power brokers in America. They were the Rockefeller-Morgan branch of the deep state.

In order to write that book, I actually went through every issue of Foreign Affairs, which is their journal, which they began publishing in 1922, the year after they were incorporated. Now, in 1988, there was no internet, as I'm sure your listeners know. And so I had to do everything through hard copy. So I actually sat in the Boston Public Library, and I went through every issue of Foreign Affairs starting in 1922. And what I noticed was that throughout their history, the Council on Foreign Relations, through their mouthpiece Foreign Affairs, was advocating world government, which is what they're all about. They were about the League of Nations and the UN, but they were advocating: “We can't just leap into a world government. We've got to do it gradually. We've got to boil the frog. The way to do that is to establish regional alliances as a stepping stone for world government.

It's the North American Union and things like that.

Absolutely, we're going to get to that….

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As I write this early Sunday afternoon Morocco time, food trucks began rolling into Gaza a little over an hour ago. Al-Jazeera correspondent Hind Khoudary reports from Rafah:

You can’t imagine how happy Palestinians are, especially with the fact that they can move freely now. I am in Rafah right now, on one of the main roads connecting Khan Younis to Rafah. The destruction is massive. For the first time since May, when the Israeli army invaded Rafah, Palestinians have the chance to come to their houses. And they’ve come and found it shocking that their houses are reduced to rubble. To the right of me, a man is just sitting on top of his bombed house; another family is trying to clean up and gather whatever’s left of their houses in order to bring back their relatives. They say that they’re going to clean up, remove all of the rocks, see if there are any bombs or shrapnel left, and then bring their families back. This is the atmosphere now; everyone’s going back to their houses and neighbourhoods. I met very young children, one of them told me, “I know my house is bombed, but I just want to see it.”

This outcome—the Resistance and Palestinian people enduring, even as Israel failed to achieve its two war aims (obliterating Hamas and freeing all hostages through military means)—was entirely predictable. In fact, I have been predicting it since mid-October 2023. Zionist idiots scoffed and said Hamas would be obliterated and the hostages returned within a few weeks, or a month at most. They kept changing their timeline and story over the 15-month war, while I continued to point out that “Israel” was doomed to suffer a catastrophic defeat due to Netanyahu’s idiotic politically-based decision to fight a war he was sure to lose.

Meanwhile, hysterical non-reality-grounded alt-media people whined that Gaza was destroyed forever and would never be rebuilt, that all surviving Gazans would soon be expelled into the Egyptian desert, and that “Israel” would soon turn Gaza into a Club Med for rich Jews. They added that the West Bank would soon be emptied of Palestinians, who would all be murdered with the survivors hounded into Jordan. When I expressed skepticism about the logistics (and geopolitical consequences) of murdering over five million people and expelling the survivors, these folks didn’t have an answer, other than something along the lines of: “The Jews own America, they’re evil, and they can do whatever they want.”

No, they can’t. And almost all well-informed American Jews, from liberals to uber-Zionist Thomas Friedman, agree with me that Netanyahu is an idiot who pursued a doomed war plan for purely political reasons. Now it’s all coming unglued. “Israel” will be lucky to hold itself together in the wake of this monumental defeat.

The Palestinian people are the heirs to the prophets. Their steadfast resistance to tyranny, even under unimaginably horrific conditions, is a stunning inspiration to everyone who cares about truth and justice. In a world with few heroes, Palestinian heroism bestrides the globe like a new Colossus. The sacrifices they have made, and the victory they are well on the way to winning, will be remembered forever. Epitomizing and embodying good (the new multipolar order) defeating evil (the old Zionist-bankster-run Western empire) the epic liberation of Palestine will likely become the founding myth (meaning “sacred story”) of the multipolar world.

The next round of resistance will have even more regional backing, notably from Turkey and Turkish-allied Syria. And the Shia-led Axis of Resistance in Iran, Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon isn’t going away, but will be plotting revenge for however long it takes. Meanwhile the whole world, with the exception of a small number of very powerful lunatics in America, now hates Israel, views it as the new Nazi Germany and Bibi as the new Hitler, and is dedicated to the cause of Palestinian liberation. “Israel” has no more chance of existing in its current form in 2035 than 1980s apartheid South Africa had of persisting into the new millennium.

-KB

False Flag Weekly News transcript extract:

Kevin Barrett: Well, moving on to the genocide news of the week. Is the genocide over? That's our theme. And Israel's cabinet has approved the ceasefire deal. So that's a good sign, provisionally anyway. Well…how provisionally, Wyatt? What do you think?

Wyatt Peterson: Well, it's good news. Anytime mass slaughter and destruction ceases, that's good news. Unfortunately, Gaza has been turned to rubble. And so all this talk about them being able to return to their homes…you ask yourself, what homes? God only knows how many people are buried underneath that. But unfortunately, it remains to be seen if this ceasefire is even going to be honored by the Israelis. They have a history of not honoring such agreements. Most recently, the ceasefire with Lebanon. Within a week, French officials said they'd already violated it 52 times. And even after this one, after the ceasefire was agreed upon, Netanyahu tried holding the whole thing up, claiming that Hamas had reneged on the deal without specifying exactly how. And airstrikes proceeded to kill roughly 100 more Palestinians, over half of whom were women and children.

But what do you expect when you make a deal with a people that have a religious rite, Kol Nidre, that allows them to annul all their vows that they make in the coming year? Kol Nidre is performed in a darkened synagogue on the eve of Yom Kippur. And it literally is a vow to annul any agreement they make in the coming year.

Chris Hedges has a new article out that's pretty cynical about this. And he goes through some historical events of Israel totally just not adhering to ceasefire agreements, starting with the Oslo Accords and working all the way through to the 2008 ceasefire. So I'm not very optimistic it'll hold, but we'll see.

That Kol Nidre prayer on, which holiday is that again?

Yom Kippur, the eve of Yom Kippur. I have it right here. It says, “he who desires that none of his vows made during the year shall be valid, let him stand and declare, ‘every vow which I make in the future shall be canceled.’ So what kind of a people has a right like that, a religious right?

Well, maybe they'll at least have to pause their genocide until next Yom Kippur?

Yeah.

It's like, you know, only pretty dark humor can deal with this kind of thing. But the tweeters are happy. Gaza has won. Palestine won. Resistance won. Imperialism, Zionism, the Democratic Party lost. And... People were “overwhelmed with emotion.” Certainly the Palestinians were. It was great watching the celebrations in Gaza. And the resistance got credit online.

This, I thought, was one of the most touching tweets:

Basically every family in Gaza has experienced the killing of a relative. And so the first thing they're going to do is visit their graves, or in some cases get them decently buried. Israel ought to know that having everybody in Gaza having lost a relative, didn't win them any long-term friends, did it?

No, world opinion is totally against them. And even in America now, public opinion seems to be turning against them. It's no longer verboten to criticize Netanyahu and aspects of war Zionism, even in the mainstream. We'll see what the long-term consequences of that are But I think the world's disgusted at the barbarity of the Israeli state.

Yeah, absolutely. That's what I said on Press TV. They managed to get me on just hours after the ceasefire announcement was made. So I made some of those points. I credited the resistance. One of the reasons that the Israelis went ahead and did this, supposedly under prodding from Trump, was that the resistance was just as strong as ever. Early January apparently had seen some real disasters for Israeli patrols in parts of Gaza where they supposedly claimed that they had completely cleaned out Hamas. Well, they didn't. Indeed, RT reports that there was very heavy fighting in areas that were, quote unquote, overwhelmed by Hamas fighters. And even Blinken admitted that Hamas was totally replenishing its ranks.

So the resistance was a big part of this. Israel couldn't win. They couldn't win the military fight. And maybe at some point they realized that just massacring civilians wasn't really getting them anywhere.

It's very hard to win a war against these insurgency groups, especially if they're fighting for a cause, fighting for their homes and their homeland and the ones they love. The Israeli army, as I've said before, is very good at killing people from a distance, bombing innocent civilians, women, children, elderly, but they're too immoral to really do the dirty work on the ground. Max Blumenthal came out with that documentary for The Grayzone and he's showing these IDF soldiers dressing in women's underwear in houses that they've captured, (undergarments stolen from) these families that they've killed. And that bespeaks of a very immoral army that I don't think is capable of actually winning a protracted war on the ground. There's a big difference between just bombing with state-of-the-art technology that America gives them, and actually getting down there and closing this thing out. And I don't think they have the ability to do it.

No, they're good at killing women and dressing up in the women's clothing, but they're not so good at actually fighting anybody who fights back.

Well, the situation where there's a presidential transition and this big hostage release situation reminded a lot of people of what happened in 1980, 1981, when Reagan took the oath of office in January 1981. And just minutes later, the Iranian hostages were released, obviously the result of a treasonous deal that was made to torpedo Jimmy Carter's presidency. And that's been written about in the books October Surprise by Barbara Honneger, and then the slightly more dubious book also called October Surprise by Gary Sick. Indeed, that so-called conspiracy theory was rabidly denied by the mainstream, including the New York Times, for many decades.

Then just a few years ago, they admitted that actually it was true. A whistleblower with the Reagan campaign blew the whistle and finally did a deathbed confession and admitted that it was all true, that Reagan's people had cut that deal with Iran to hold the hostages until Reagan won the election and got inaugurated. So that precedent makes us a little suspicious about Trump coming in and supposedly getting this peace deal.

Yeah, I thought you did a good job making this comparison on your recent Press TV appearance, because politically it's very good for Trump. He has the image now of: he comes into office while the world's burning, war is breaking out all over the place, and he comes in and plays hardball and he gets the deals done. Unfortunately, when he takes office, we'll see if this endures. Because I really believe that all the money he took from the likes of Miriam Adelson and Bill Ackman and Jacob Helberg et al., is going to influence him more than any humanitarian concerns.

The Zionist right-wing media right now is trying to spin this whole deal, saying that Hamas was so scared of the incoming Trump administration that they agreed to the deal. But that's not really what happened at all. In fact, the deal resembles one Hamas wanted to sign, what, eight months ago? And the Zionist outliers in Israel have been very outspoken against this, threatening to implode the whole Netanyahu government from within. So, you know, we'll see. It's promising. Trump does deserve some credit for getting this done.

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Second hour: Scientist and revisionist historian Germar Rudolf discusses his latest experience of being locked up for voicing and writing his heretical views about World War II history. This time the pretext was a misdemeanor warrant for a minor infraction that, unlike pretty much every misdemeanor warrant ever issued, somehow drew “special attention” that led to Germar’s being extradited across state lines and housed free of charge for over three weeks, all thanks to the generosity of American taxpayers. In this interview he describes a horrible prison experience that made a few days in a Pennsylvania prison more traumatizing than over four years in German prisons.

Germar Rudolf, author of The Day Amazon Murdered Free Speech and the new Holocaust Encyclopedia (free online at www.NukeBook.org) offers “an uncensored and unconstrained look at the pertinent evidence that upholds the orthodox Holocaust narrative.” Unlike all mainstream defenses of orthodoxy that I’m aware of, The Holocaust Encyclopedia is a very easy-to-use reference guide to the relevant evidence and sources.

Has the Holocaust Encyclopedia surpassed Thomas Dalton’s Debating the Holocaust and Nick Kollerstrom’s Breaking the Spell as the best up-to-date introduction to nuts-and-bolts of the revisionist side of the Holocaust argument? Check it out and see.

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Kevin Barrett: Welcome to the second hour of tonight's Truth Jihad podcast. I'm Kevin Barrett doing the show now since 2006, doing a lot of video these days, and bringing on more great guests since I got started with 9/11 Trutt with people like Steven Jones and Richard Gage and those kind of folks back in 2006, 7, 8, 9, 10. And moving on to other issues where we're not being allowed to think freely and figure out what's really going on in the world: It's interesting how many of those issues seem to have something to do with Zionism. Probably a majority of the people who are being witch hunted out of the American academy are being expelled for heresy around Zionism.

So why is that? And why is it that so much of the pushback against free speech all over the world is related somehow to Zionism and in particular its founding official myth—the human sacrifice myth of the modern world, the myth of the Holocaust? By myth, I mean sacred story. I'm not necessarily casting aspersions on its factuality. But I do have a guest who's been known to cast aspersions on its factuality, and that is Germar Rudolf. He is the publisher of the Holocaust Encyclopedia, which looks like a fantastic go-to source, one of the most interesting encyclopedias in the world, actually. And definitely one of the most controversial ones. They won't let him sell it on Amazon. It’s an encyclopedia that you can't sell on Amazon because it takes views of history that they don't want taken, whoever “they” are. Maybe you're starting to get a sense of who that is. Anyway, welcome, Gerber Rudolf. Great to have you on.

Germar Rudolf: Thank you for having me.

The topical issue that led me to want to have you on over the past month is: You were arrested once again. You've been put under lock and key repeatedly because you went after the Holocaust story. And they have been after you ever since.

There was a report that, “oh, no, they arrested Governor Rudolf.” This was like a month ago, I think. And so those of us who know your work and stuff behind the scenes, we were saying, “what can we do? Hopefully he'll be out real soon.” I sent a postcard to your jail address. You probably got out before it arrived. Is that right?

Yes, I don't know where you send it to. I was 17 days in upstate New York awaiting what they call extradition (to Pennsylvania). I was arrested while driving in upstate New York trying to drive out west to a friend who was having severe health issues and I wanted to help her out. And somehow scanning my license plate, which police cars do nowadays automatically, brought up some old issue that was pending in Pennsylvania. And even though in the past they had refused to do extradition to pursue the case, now something has changed their mind. And this old case was pulled up. And they said, yeah, this time they want to have me. So I was 17 days waiting extradition. And then I was shipped over to York County, southern Pennsylvania, just north of Baltimore. And I was there only for a week. And the mail, if you send it to the processing center for the York prison, which is actually in Maryland, the processing takes quite a while. They open and scan all the mail, make copies of it, and I would actually only receive a photocopy. I don't receive the original. For safety, they don't forward anything original to inmates. I don't know. I have no experience with it. It was the first time for me in the prison system. I don't want to repeat it. So I have no idea how long that takes. But by the time mail arrived, I was probably gone…

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Salim Mansur recently published “Into the Second Year of Israeli Genocide in Gaza: The collective West’s complicity reflects moral bankruptcy, as in that of Canada.” It begins:

“Bethlehem has been delivered a mortal wound that now runs through the ancient city where, as both the Gospels of the New Testament Bible and the Qur’an narrate, Virgin Mary brought forth into the world the child Jesus (Yehoshua in Hebrew, and Isa in Arabic). It is the wound that now divides the world in the first quarter of the twentyfirst century, and the beginning of the third millennium, into two unequal parts, the Global North and the Global South. This division is not natural brought about by some feature of geography; it is a division designed and imposed by men of war, plunder and pillage, from the Global North as were once the Crusaders a millennium ago, mortally wounding the township of Jesus’s nativity whose birth symbolized heavenly peace for all people and who later announced, ‘Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.'”

Salim Mansur is a Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Western Ontario and has published in many of Canada’s biggest newspapers as well as international publications. A severe critic of obscurantism and extremism in the Muslim community, he wound up hanging around with the wrong crowd post-9/11, and even once made a shortlist of “Incredible Muslims that Support Israel.” Since then he has figured out who the world’s most dangerous extremists really are, and probably won’t be making that list again.

Note: Upon getting acquainted this week, Salim and I discovered that we share an appreciation of the great Sufi teacher Bawa Muhaiyaddeen.

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Welcome back, everyone. Press TV of rolling coverage here after a Gaza ceasefire has been announced in Doha, Qatar, by the prime minister of Qatar just hours ago, a highly anticipated ceasefire that's to be basically implemented in three different phases involving a complete end to the genocide, the bombing, the indiscriminate bombing and shelling of the besieged Gaza Strip, as well as an initial Israeli troop withdrawal from major cities and ultimately a complete withdrawal aid getting into desperate Gazans, Gazans being allowed to go back to the demolished homes or what's left of them. and aid, desperately needed aid to get into Gaza. And this is supposed to be ended with prisoner exchanges, which are supposed to take place in three different phases. And also in the ultimate phase, we're supposed to see reconstruction begin for Gazans. Now to monitor the ceasefire is going to be the U.S., Egypt, and the Qataris working out of Cairo, the Egyptian capital, to closely monitor that it's implemented by all parties.

Joining us is Ahmed Al-Najjar, press-TV correspondent from the southern Gaza city of Khan Yunus to gauge reactions to this announcement of the Gaza ceasefire and see how Gazans are reacting to it. Hello, Ahmed. Congratulations to this victory for Palestinians after 15 months of a nightmare. Tell us what people are saying and how they're celebrating the ceasefire down there in Gaza.

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Ahmed Al-Najjar: A couple of hours ago, right behind me here next to Nasser Hospital, the streets were filled with people who came, who have no connection to internet or electricity and came here just to have the recent developments regarding the ceasefire and to their fortune. It was announced the Qatari prime minister and foreign minister announced that it will take place on the upcoming Sunday. Within three days it will go into effect. However, since then, they return to their tents, they return to their makeshift shelter, return to wherever they are displaced as they have been put in a state of disappointment that it didn't start right away, as Israel is pressing ahead with more attacks on the Gaza Strip, reminding them that their happiness, their safety, wasn't even completed yet.

We're talking about at least 10 Palestinians who were killed just since the announcement of this ceasefire, just in Gaza City, where the occupation has carried three airstrikes. One of them targeted a residential building for Anabih family within the eastern parts of Gaza City. Another one was a series of fire bursts conducted within area in northern Gaza, and another one that targeted a group of civilians also within Gaza City. Here in Khan Yunis City, at least two airstrikes were committed within the so-called safe zone. One of them targeted a tent in western Khan Yunis. The second one targeted a residential building within Gizan Rishwan area that claimed the lives of at least two Palestinians.

The Palestinians are still hoping that this announcement of ceasefire will eventually lead to the ultimate end of this genocide. However, three days is not a short period compared to Israel's capacity of conducting more attacks on civilians and claiming more lives of the Palestinians who all hope that they will be fortunate enough to survive until next Sunday to witness this ending once and for all.

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Thank you Ahmed. Joining us also now is Kevin Barrett, author and political expert joining us out of Saidia, Morocco, and Sakina Datou, author, journalist, and producer joining us out of London. Dr. Barrett, always a pleasure to check in with you. Hope you're safe and doing well. Now, we know that the ceasefire may have just been announced, but you heard our correspondent. Palestinians have already been killed since the announcement of the ceasefire a couple hours ago. It's not supposed to take effect until Sunday, January 20th, four days away. It seems like the Israelis want to continue the genocide up to the very last minute. Your initial thoughts on the ceasefire and your level of optimism with respect to it.

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Well, it's extremely good news, of course. But it's just so disgusting the way that the Zionists behave. The Palestinian side, once the ceasefire is announced, even though it doesn't take effect until Sunday, they're not going to be going around trying to kill Israeli civilians, children and women. And they're probably not even going to be blowing up Israeli tanks, because they're decent human beings who can get into the spirit of "we're having a ceasefire here, even if it doesn't officially begin until Sunday."

But these Zionists are just cartoon villains. They've been behaving so abominably now for over a year, and it seems like it's hard for them to stop, apparently. They just can't resist the opportunity to commit more murders before the ceasefire goes into effect.

And, you know, as good news as this is, and if it all plays out well, God willing, then....We'll be so happy that the most intense phase of this genocide of Palestine has ended, and inshallah, the whole genocide will eventually grind to a halt.

But we're not going to forget this. And we cannot let ourselves imagine that these people are going to change their stripes overnight. As we've seen, they're still killing people, even though the ceasefire has been announced. What kind of people are these? It's outrageous.

And then another point to make just quickly here, before we go to the other guests, is that this easefire comes in on Sunday. It's basically in time for the inauguration of Donald Trump. And this reminds me of what happened back in 1980 when the Reagan-Bush campaign timed the release of the American hostages in Tehran for the incoming Reagan administration after having helped bring down the Carter administration through back-channel dealings with the Iranian government at the time. And that didn't work out all that well for Iran, given that the Reagan-Bush administration wasn't really any better than the Carter administration had been, to say the least.

Nobody expects the Trump administration to really be any better (than Biden). This unexpected move of Trump pressuring Netanyahu and his evil government to get this ceasefire done, that's a good sign. But I certainly wouldn't put any faith in this crazy ultra-Zionist Trump administration in terms of what kinds of policies that they'll be pursuing.

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And before we go to Sakina Datu out of London, Dr. Barrett, really quick, I want to put this question to you and then go to our other guests. How do you assess the winners and losers of this 15-month campaign—militarily, politically, and in the sphere of public opinion—between Palestinians and the Israelis?

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This is an overwhelming victory for the Palestinians. Netanyahu and the Israeli government clearly announced the goals of the war, which were to completely destroy Hamas, so there wouldn't be any Hamas left when they were done, and to free the captives by military means.

They completely failed. The Israeli military killed far more of their own captives than they rescued. And Hamas is stronger now than it was in October of 2019. And Anthony Blinken just admitted that. He just publicly stated that Hamas is recruiting more than enough people to replace its fighters who are martyred.

So Israel has failed completely in its objectives to this war, and it's done so while it's demonstrated to the world that it can't win a military fight, but it can massacre huge numbers of civilians. It can commit genocide in Gaza. It can force Lebanon to back off by mass murdering Lebanese civilians.

All Israel can do is commit genocide. But militarily, it's a complete paper tiger. It has failed utterly, and its loss of this war to Hamas and this great victory for the Palestinian resistance will be one for the history books, and it will mark a turning point in the eventual complete liberation of Palestine.

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Very optimistic, and thank you there, Dr. Sakina Datu. Welcome back to the program. Your assessment, if you could, I'd like to put that same question to the winners and losers of this campaign, the Palestinian resistance or the Israeli entity.

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Sakina Datu: Definitely Palestinians. Palestinians in different formats. The axis of resistance that, like the previous guest said, has not been dismantled, which was what we were hearing all along was the goal of the Zionist regime, but also ordinary Palestinians because of the resilience that they have shown and the fact that they refused to go away anywhere. They refused to be defeated and for their homeland to be stolen from them. So they are definitely the winners, but there are also other winners. I think in the region, I would say a country like Yemen, I see it as a winner. Yemen was a wild card. I don't think anybody expected them to create the kind of resistance that they showed. So Yemen is definitely a winner. I think Iran has shown a huge leadership, the military exposure that people didn't have and did not understand the power of Iran, that came forth in these months.

So those are the winners. The losers, yes, then I think Syria, it can be counted as a loss. But again, you know, Syria is a loss on the surface. But if you dig deeper, Syria really is a minefield. And so Israel thinking that they have been able to capture some of the territory in Syria or even the ISIS that have gained power over there, this is temporary because that region is going to prove to be very, very difficult for them. And of course, the Zionists, everything that they wanted, they failed to achieve. And this deal we are talking about, of course, it is welcome. And we hope, really hope that so much atrocities that we have seen will now, there will be some level of peace. However, we have seen Israel not able to hold a ceasefire for long. They have done that in Lebanon already. Despite the ceasefire, we constantly seen that they are violating those those agreements. So I am optimistic, but I'm also cautious about how much this will hold, especially if the deal involves the release of hostages, the detainees. What happens after that? Are they really going to continue holding the ceasefire?

Now, the issue of Trump, I think, is very interesting here. There are some news, and of course, this is not confirmed, but we are hearing that in exchange for a ceasefire, he has offered Netanyahu some kind of a deal for annexation of the West Bank. And of course, Trump is a huge supporter of the Zionist entity. So much as it is good news and we're happy for the Palestinian people who have been subjected to a brutal genocide in the last months. Going forward, we really don't know how this is going to unravel. So it is with a pinch of salt that we are optimistic about this ceasefire.

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And Dr. Barrett, I'd like to put this question to you as well. What has the Gaza genocide taught us? And when I say us, not necessarily us, me, you, and Sakina Datu, the three of us seem to be pretty passionate students of history when it comes to the Palestinian cause and struggle. But the global community, in essence, as a whole, what has this Gaza genocide taught us about Israel, about the Palestinians, the Palestinian struggle, about the U.S., about the Europeans, and about the necessity, the pressing necessity for an autonomous, self-governing Palestinian future?

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Kevin Barrett: Well, this genocide has really opened up a huge new gap between the global South and the American empire. And it's not really a new development. This has been going on for centuries. But Western colonialism and imperialism has changed. It dominated the globe now for a few centuries. But that period is coming to an end as the global south is the site of virtually all economic and even demographic growth these days.

So there's a global transformation happening. And right at the moment of this transformation as, for example, China, becomes the world's biggest economic producer and leader of technology and displaces the United States in that role with military power probably not far behind—At that moment, we have this display of the absolute depravity of the Western soul as the Imperial Center in Washington, D.C. gives complete support to months of the most sick, depraved genocide that you could ever imagine. And it gets live streamed, not only by its victims, but even by its perpetrators, who film themselves committing the most disgusting abominations, slaughtering children and dancing in the houses of the people that they've slaughtered and expelled.

And so this has been put on display for the whole world to see. And everyone who's awake with a conscience paying attention has seen it. And that means that the world will never be the same. The global south is never going to forget this. And it's going to know that we need a completely new set of global institutions. And so as we get this hyper-nationalist Trump coming in who wants to demolish the actual architecture of the American empire, pull out of NATO, get out of all these alliances, basically end all American cooperation with its vassals, which is the way it's been running its global empire. That's in a sense a surrender. Trump's ideology represents a surrender of the American empire.

So we're seeing a global transformation and an impending retreat from U.S. empire. Maybe they'll invade and occupy Greenland instead of the rest of the world. That would be an improvement, I guess, for everybody but the people in Greenland.

But the genocide of Palestine has been the event that symbolizes to the whole world that we absolutely have to change. We have to take power out of the hands of these genocidal madmen in Washington, D.C., and these bankers and financiers and Zionist lunatics who have so much influence over them. And we need a new, more democratic world in which the 80% of the world that is the global south has 80% of the power. Currently, it's more like the 20% of the world, the Western empire, holds 80% of the power and vice versa. And we need to flip that. We need a more democratic world. And I think that the world's being appalled by this genocide will contribute to pushing people to make those changes.

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