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Turn Into The Swerve – Jerry Goodstein


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Retirement rarely unfolds exactly as planned.

For Jerry Goodstein, retirement began with a clear sense of direction and a meaningful endeavor. But unexpected challenges, a deeply emotional experience helping his daughter move across the country, and an encounter with the world of ADHD coaching changed everything.

In this conversation, Jerry shares how his retirement story became less about executing a blueprint and more about learning how to “turn into the swerve”  by staying open to reinvention, purpose, lifelong learning, and becoming someone new later in life.

This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, letting go, service, and the surprising ways purpose can evolve, over time and in ways you may not expect, after retirement.

In This Conversation, You’ll Learn

  • Why God laughs at your retirement plans
  • How unexpected “swerves” can open new directions in life
  • The opportunities to repurpose your skills in retirement
  • Why letting go of identity is often difficult for high achievers
  • How lifelong learning can reignite energy, curiosity and engagement
  • What coaching taught Jerry about listening and presence
  • Why service became more important than living a life of leisure
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    Bio

    Jerry Goodstein is Professor Emeritus, Carson College of Business, Department of Management, Information Systems, and Entrepreneurship at Washington State University. Dr. Goodstein received his Ph.D. in Business Administration from the University of California, Berkeley, and his MBA and BA in Economics and Geography from the University of California, Los Angeles.

    He conducted research and taught business ethics, leadership, and strategy at the undergraduate and graduate levels for over three decades at Washington State University and the University of Illinois. His research on restorative justice in organizations, corporate and stakeholder responsibility, and second chance hiring has been published in leading management and business ethics journals. He is co-editor, along with Dr. Mary Gentile, of Giving Voice to Values: An Innovation and Impact Agenda, published in 2021.

    After retiring from Washington State University in May 2020, Dr. Goodstein continued work he had begun in 2019 to bring together businesses, criminal justice partners, and community-based organizations to develop employment-based opportunities for formerly incarcerated men and women. In January 2023 Dr. Goodstein made a major retirement/life shift to become a Certified ADHD Life Coach. He founded Where You Are ADHD after completing his ADHD life coaching program in December 2023. Since then, he has been coaching youth (teens and tweens) with ADHD. Dr. Goodstein partners with public and community-based organizations, especially those working with at-risk youth, to support both youth and their families in meeting the ADHD-related challenges they are facing in their lives.

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    For More onn Jerry Goodstein

    Where You Are ADHD

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    Wise Quotes

    On Being Open to Reality

    “There are just some unanticipated swerves that come up…Turn into the swerve…Don’t turn against it.”

    On Becoming a Beginner Again

    “It absolutely feels like a new beginning for me….“It’s never too late to learn. It’s never too late to evolve.”

    On Purpose

    “I don’t think of myself as retired anymore….I’ve repurposed my purpose.”

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    About The Retirement Wisdom Podcast

    There are many podcasts on retirement, often hosted by financial advisors with their own financial motives, that cover the money side of the street. This podcast is different. You’ll get smarter about the investment decisions you’ll make about the most important asset you’ll have in retirement: your time.

    About Retirement Wisdom

    I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

    Schedule a call today to discuss how the Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one — on your own terms.

    About Your Podcast Host

    Joe Casey is an executive coach who helps people design their next life after their primary career and create their version of The Multipurpose Retirement.™ He created his own next chapter after a 26-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

    Joe has earned Master’s degrees from the University of Southern California in Gerontology (at age 60), the University of Pennsylvania, and Middlesex University (UK), a BA in Psychology from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and his coaching certification from Columbia University.

    In addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, ranked in the top 1% globally in popularity by Listen Notes, with over 2 million downloads. Business Insider recognized Joe as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

     

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