The team chats through David 'Kochie' Koch's departure from Seven's Sunrise and who's likely to replace him (2:28), and if next-day TV ratings are too old fashioned, as Seven's Mel Hopkins argued in an op-ed this week (6:23). Plus, a discussion about last week's media grad salaries exclusive (12:19). Then, a catch up with Kochie on his time at Brekky Central (20:57), before Cox Inall Ridgeway's Yatu Widders Hunt checks in to talk about how brands should approach The Voice referendum (28:06).