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We're coming at your this week with another old list/new list! We've done murdered on vacation stories before, but it's such a good topic, we figured we should do it again (also, 'tis the season!) 

These cases are frustrating and weird, and of course very, veyr sad. But they are also a warning to be careful while vacationing, especially if doing so alone! Be sure to have the time of your life, emphasis on the life! 

Cases Covered:
1. Alice Gruppioni
2. Chynna Deese and Lucas Fowler (Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod)


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Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Northern_British_Columbia_murders
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/schmegelsky-mcleod-homicides-manhunt-rcmp-1.5299115
https://abc7.com/venice-beach-boardwalk-hit-and-run-crash-nathan-campell-alice-gruppioni/1002513/

This week, we are turning once again to the wild world of the romantic, and looking at first dates that went horribly horribly wrong. It’s very dangerous, it seems, to be a person trying to date! These tales of horror from the dating world include a suspicious accident on the freeway, two dates who were terrifyingly uncaring, and a date that would be the chilling end for a young tourist. Be careful in your next forays in the dating world, twisted listeners - you never know who may be out there!

Cases Covered:
1. Grace Millane
2. Orlando Boldewijn


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Sources:
https://nltimes.nl/2024/03/19/suspect-convicted-teen-dates-drowning-sees-jail-time-slashed-10-weeks-appeal
https://news.sky.com/story/grace-millane-what-happened-in-the-last-hours-of-british-backpackers-life-11866557
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Grace_Millane

We're back this week with a classic topic, and one we've covered before. Sadlly, there are so many cases under this topic that we decided to cover it again - and we'll likely do it again sometime! These are cases of people murdered (or, as you'll see, murdered?) On a first date. These tales are mostly of sucky dudes behaving as such, and the horrific things that happen as a result. One case will leave you scratching your head wondering if the courts got it right (a common question) while the other are sadly a bit more cut and dry. 

Cases Covered:
1. Sade Robinson
2. Jennifer St Clair


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Sources:
https://www.courttv.com/news/accused-sade-robinson-killer-denied-computer-access-in-jail/
https://www.fox6now.com/news/sade-robinson-mother-pleads-suspects-parents-officials
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=b1ced915f33cbde0&rls=en&sxsrf=ADLYWIJmOgj8SuJom9l9ShxM_pWrg3TXEw:1717858325351&q=jennifer+st+clair+florida&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwic9ob6oMyGAxUHH0QIHe5JBE4Q7xYoAHoECAcQAQ&biw=1462&bih=756&dpr=2
https://www.wptv.com/news/state/jennifer-st-clair-family-says-woman-on-first-date-with-man-died-after-fall-off-motorcycle-on-i-95

Part 2 of this horrific list now posted! And the stories here aren't any better. We have one tale of a completely senseless murder where the alleged killer wears the victim's clothes, and another that turned into a national story, with politically charged opinions and actions from all sides of the government.


Cases Covered:
1. Laken Riley
2. Kirsten Kluyts


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Sources:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/laken-riley-murder-suspect-plea-arraignment/story?id=110715582
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7511
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/laken-riley-dad-today-interview-rcna143742
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/kirsten-kluyts-murder-accused-denied-bail-20231229
https://www.news24.com/citypress/news/kirsten-kluyts-cause-of-death-revealed-as-head-trauma-strangulation-and-smothering-20231220

As many of you know, Diva is staunchly against any sort of outdoor activity, and will take any chance she can find to explain to you why it's a terrible idea. As such, she has chosen the horrible topic of people who were murdered while jogging! This list serves as both a cautionary tale for all fitness enthusiasts, as well as a commentary on the sad state of the world when people, and women especially, can't even enjoy being outdoors without fear of harm. It's a terrible reality, but definitely one Diva herself will never experience, and we hope the same for all of you, dear listeners. So please enjoy your lives, the outdoors, but above all else, stay off our lists! 


Cases Covered:
1. Sydney Sutherland
2. Roberta 'Bibi' Lee


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Sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/ax97on/the_murder_of_roberta_bibi_lee_in_oakland_ca_in/
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Killer-of-Berkeley-student-Bibi-Lee-to-be-3159489.php
https://people.com/crime/sydney-sutherland-murder-farmer-pleads-guilty/
https://katv.com/news/local/quake-lewellyn-pleads-guilty-to-murder-rape-in-sydney-sutherland-case

We’re back in the swing of things, twisted listeners, and for our first episode after the break, we’re taking you to southeastern Pennsylvania. These cases from Philadelphia and the surrounding suburbs are really wild, so buckle up for a wild ride full of gruesome twists and turns. Featuring an atrocity of police brutality turned museum display, a wannabe cult leader with Earth Day pretensions, a lesser known serial killer, and a disgusting incel bitch who murdered his ex-GF. So get cozy, grab a cheesesteak, and enjoy this disturbing doozy of a list!


Cases Covered:
1. Morgan McCaffery
2. MOVE bombing


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Sources:
https://www.montgomerycountypa.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/52
https://www.morgans-light.org/morgans-story/
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move
https://commons.lib.jmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1054&context=jmurj

Patient listeners, we're back! So sorry for the unexpected absence, but as a famous 80's character said, life moves pretty fast, and for us, that meant taking a podcast break. But now, we are back and better than ever, with some truly messed up tales of murder in South Eastern Pennsylvania. This is a listener request, and with good reason! These cases are all doozies! Cindy always wanted to do murder of Pennsylvania, as there seem to be SO many, and boy are there! From serial killers to stalker ex boyfriends, these cases run the gamut, and are a great way to get back into what we love the most: talking true crime! 

Cases Covered:
1. Ira Einhorn "The Unicorn Killer"
2. Harrion Graham


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Sources:
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42711922
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/us/ira-einhorn-dead.html
https://murderpedia.org/male.G/g/graham-harrison.htm
https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/harrison_graham/1_index.html

Formerly Patreon only episode now live!

This story is about Patrick Drum, a man who had had enough of the fuckery in his town, and decided to take matters into his own hands.It's a pretty straightforward tale, not a ton of twists and turns - just a little bite sized story to keep you held over until our next list pops up when Diva is back!

This week, we travel to one of Cindy’s favorite places: New York City! Join us as we regale you with some of the gnarliest annals of the infamous city’s true crime history, featuring a ton of NYPD fuckery, the life and death of a hip hop legend, and a serial killer who preyed on the city’s queer community. However you feel about the Big Apple, you won’t want to miss these harrowing cases from the city’s hard streets.

Cases Covered:
1. Christina Yuna Lee
2. Jam Master Jay


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Sources:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/suspect-in-gruesome-chinatown-stabbing-death-of-christina-lee-deemed-unfit-for-trial/4415987/
https://nypost.com/2023/05/20/nyc-cops-stood-by-while-christina-lee-was-killed-in-her-home/
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-queens-men-convicted-drug-related-murder-run-dmc-dj-jason-mizell-also-known-jam#:~:text=Jason%20Mizell%2C%20Also%20Known%20As%20%22Jam%20Master%20Jay%22,-Tuesday%2C%20February%2027&text=Today%2C%20a%20federal%20jury%20in,hip%20hop%20group%20Run%2DDMC.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/run-dmc-jam-master-jay-family-reflects-killers-justice-1235006379/

This week, we're traveling to the Big Apple to talk about murders that happened in New York! We're looking at the city this time, and not the state, but we still have more than our fair share of cases to choose from, and they are all doozies! From famous murders to serial killers, this list runs the gamut, and then some! So tune in and enjoy, and even if you live or visit the amazing city that is NY, do your very best to stay off of this list!

Cases Covered:
1. Richard Rogers
2. Romona Moore


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Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Romona_Moore
https://fr-ca.findagrave.com/memorial/79285585/romona-moore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Rogers_(serial_killer)
https://mashable.com/article/last-call-killer-true-crime-explainer