Episode 4 : Show Notes

* Vicky Cristina Barcelona: some four-ish feels with all the drama, the artist, the wild girlfriend, the emotionality - and maybe, just maybe, Cristina, Juan Antonio, and Maria Elena all as fours.

* Victoria digs Maria Elena's intensity and range.

* Bryce sort of resonates with Juan Antonio.

* Victoria folds Herman Hesse (and his novel "Narcissus and Goldmund") into the episode.

* Bryce resonates with Goldmund, his desire for the sensual experience.

* Our first podcast sound-glitch, oops:)

* Narcissus as the ascetic monk, Goldmund as the worldly sensualist.

* Victoria coins a new phrase: "Top Monk Gun".

* Lionel Richie's "Hello", yep - we have a history with it.

* Bryce's envy for both Narcissus and Goldmund.

* Victoria sees some Goldmund in Bryce, who reflects on pre-marriage romantic life.

* Bryce describes access to his in-his-20s attic room in a house with 3 girls.

* Victoria mentions her erotic short story, "Show and Tell".

* Both Bryce and Victoria have resonance with the erotic in childhood.

* Victoria's erotic nature in late teens and twenties. Bryce has some envy kick up.

* Two fours in relationship: getting one another, seeing one another, growing together.

* Bryce feels fundamentally gotten by Victoria, due to her also being a four. And it's healing.

* Victoria - feeling held and seen and safe - can fully be herself, in all her emotional mess and expression, in relationship with Bryce.

* Victoria's sexual four-ish testing of Bryce, and his capacity to hold without (much) reactivity.

* Victoria's sexual four growth path: expressing less.

* Bryce's self-pres four growth path: expressing more.

* Bryce and Victoria colluding in their personalities in the early years of their relationship: Victoria criticizes and blames as a sexual four, while he as a self-pres four holds in, doesn't communicate, takes in more - and finally reaches a limit, explodes, clarifies, and ultimately "learns to fight".

* Bryce speaks to NOT being a dissociating nine, and instead a hunkering-down, holding-in self-preservation four.

* Victoria clarifies that Bryce's "holding of pain" is a holding of his own pain, and she speaks to her desire to call him in.

* Fours and the general sensitivity to pain, via both self and others.

* The truth and power of Equanimity for the four.

* Victoria's practice of containing, relaxing, holding, presencing, and receiving as a sexual four.

* Victoria's good sexual four work in relaxing her emotional and body experience around Bryce's daughter.

* Victoria calls out Bryce around his narrow perception regarding confrontation.

* As two fours in relationship, a tendency toward withdrawing and distancing, and now - finding consistent repair and greater health.

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