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Kezie Apps is one of rugby league’s most decorated female players: Tigers captain, co-captain of the Jillaroos and the most capped Blues player in State of Origin. Oh and she's a Dally M winner too. Where's the NRLW heading next? She joins us this week to chat it through.

She made it to the top after being forced to give up the game at 12 because there weren't any clubs for the girls. What's the pathway for young players now? She's been immortalised in portrait at the Museum of Contemporary Art. How did that come about and what does it mean for visibility for the league? And she's played in twenty State of Origin games, this year as an integral part of NSW's historic clean-sweep series win. How did the Blues manage it?

We also talk the rapid rise of the NRLW, why the standard of the game keeps getting scarier (in the best way possible), and the power of visibility in women's sport to the talent coming through the pathways system. Plus: club culture, mentoring young players, life after footy, commentary dreams, TikTok slang confusion, and a fiery debate about sporting dynasties.

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We try to make sense of an avalanche of gold medals, record-breaking performances and some remarkable athlete stories coming out of the Comm Games. A week ago we were wondering where the hype is, now it's everywhere. Lachie Kennedy broke the national 100-metre record with a time of 9.85 seconds. Torrie Lewis won Bronze and broke her own record with a time of 10.99. In the pool Australia’s swim team closed out Glasgow 2026 with 76 medals in total, a haul that eclipses the previous record set in 2018 on the Gold Coast. 

Plus, we unpack the county cricket controversy that has the whole internet talking, with a fielder now dubbed "Clicky Ponting" accused of snapping his fingers to help sell a wicketkeeper catch to the umpire. Plus, the Diamonds' uniform debate, Gina Rinehart's athlete bonuses, Col Pearse's powerful advocacy statement, and the bigger question hanging over the Games: if the Commonwealth Games continue with a reduced program, what does its future look like?

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The World Cup is over but the memes live on, and we're already counting down to the Women's World Cup in Brazil next year - what can we expect from our Matildas? The Commonwealth Games are underway; how are our athletes faring? And there are new rules around the TV coverage designed to stop the over-sexualisation of female athletes on broadcasts. What's happened exactly and why did it take this long? 

Plus, a debate that lit up the comments section: is the AFLW being set up to fail? Why is the NRLW racing ahead, and is the AFL's approach to women's football helping or hurting the competition? And why isn't a sold-out stadium a success story? Also on the agenda:

• The sports stars making us believe in romance again
• Chloe Kim's very reasonable request for fans taking selfies
• Ninja Warrior is about to change forever - what's happening?

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Fresh off the side of a mountain somewhere in France, Australian cycling legend and SBS commentator Simon Gerrans (the only Aussie to win a stage at all three major tours) joins Two Good Sports to explain why Tour de France riders might just be the toughest (and most unhinged) athletes on the planet.

As the Tour De France wraps up this weekend, we get a crash-course (pun intended) on cycling and why it's actually more of a team sport than we think.

From winning the Tour Down Under a record four times, to wearing the iconic yellow jersey, Simon shares stories of racing with a broken collarbone, surviving three weeks in the peloton and what it's really like watching Tadej Pogačar rewrite cycling history.

Plus: Georgie admits she only learnt to ride a bike in her 30s, we discuss the great Australian divide of MAMIL's (Middle-Aged Men In Lycra) vs everyone else, and Simon reveals the one thing every Tour de France rider dreams about after 21 days of racing. Spoiler: it's not a croissant.

The Tour de France is on SBS and SBS On Demand.

 

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Abbey and Georgie are off this week but will return on Friday the 24th of July after a much needed rest. In this episode we look back at some of our favourite moments from the past few months to keep you going. 

• Surfing icon Layne Beachley tells us how over a decade of campaigning led to finally achieving equal pay for women. 
• The Wiggles Simon and John joined us earlier in the year, to talk resilience as an Eels fan, fatherhood and their love of sport.
• Luke Bateman, former NRL star and current BookTok hearthrob shared how it was growing up in Queensland as a lover of books.
• And Niav Owens, friend of the pod and host of SBS' World Cup coverage, told Abbey how she dealt with 1:30am wake up calls and hosting with Harry Kewell.

We'll be back soon with regular programming.

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Layne Beachley has a list of achievements as long as the beach at Manly. She was inducted into the Sport Australia hall of fame in 2011, and elevated to legend in 2023. She won seven world surfing championships, including a record six in a row. She was a game changer in so many ways that her legacy goes well beyond the silverware. 

From fighting for pay equity in surfing to learning how to detach self-worth from achievements, Layne drops so many life lessons that Abbey immediately starts planning a wall of Post-it notes.

We discuss:

• Why women’s surfing was a “misogynistic shit show” for much of her career and how it changed
• The battle to achieve equal prize money and how it was done
• The difference between dream team members and dream thieves
• The one breathing technique that can change your day for the better
• How to find purpose after retiring from the very top
• What really happens when a giant wave wipes you out
• Why Kelly Slater still blows Layne’s mind
• The surprisingly small amount of prize money Layne earned across 19 years on tour, and why it's not unusual

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It was an historic night at Suncorp as the Blues won the decider by 18 points. Laurie Daley will keep his job and Nathan Cleary shut up the 'can't do it in Origin' haters. It was one of the all-time great games - unless you're Georgie Tunny. We unpack the dubious calls and tries that maybe shouldn't have stood on a crazy night of rugby league.

Friend of the pod Sophie Molineux and the greatest team in Australian sporting history won the T20 Women's World Cup. Why aren't they getting the media coverage they deserve?

Plus, Erling Haaland keeps doing genuinely ridiculous things at the World Cup, Socceroo Awer Mabil says some truths, Wimbledon brings the drama as Sabalenka threatens to get blind drunk, and someone set a record at the Gold Coast marathon that is truly unbelievable. 

 

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T'was the night before Origin.

It's the most special time in our lives: it's Game 3 of Origin and it's winner takes all. Origin nights at Suncorp are always crazy but this one's going to be extra special.

Queensland's most feral fan Georgie Tunny went up to the Sunshine Coast to get the lowdown from the players on how the Maroons are preparing to face a Blues side who will be fired up after a bruising loss in Game 2. Kalyn Ponga, Murray Taulagi, JoJo Fifita and Patty Carrigan talk to us about what makes Origin so special, how the celebrations really are after the game and how they plan to stop Nathan Cleary.

Plus, what's Billy Slater really like as a coach? Why are Queenslanders so much more feral than NSW fans? And how do you learn to switch off as a player at the elite level when the game is done?

 

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We didn't know that a simple stat about Caitlin Clark, a rookie basketballer in the WNBA who outsold LeBron on jersey sales, would cause such madness on the Two Good Sports Insta page.

Caitlin has become one of the most talked-about names in sport. Her meteoric rise in just 2 years, manufactured drama and a rivalry with Angel Reese - we debate it all and discuss why she’s such a polarising figure, what her status says about the state of women’s sport, and why fans can’t seem to handle her competing with (and beating) men. Also why was she left off the 30th anniversary poster? 

Plus, Serena Williams’ Wimbledon return doesn't go to plan (but joy for our own Maya Joint), and a proper conversation on why female athletes are still being held to completely different standards.

 

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It's about time we talked about the World Cup. The Socceroos have (arguably) defied expectations and made it through the group stage. Now we play Egypt in the first knockout round on Saturday morning. Is it winnable? 

Niav Owens thinks so, and she knows her football. The host of SBS' World Cup coverage joins us to chat our chances of progressing to the round of 16 and meeting Messi and Argentina (unless Cabo Verde pull off the biggest ever World Cup shock), why this squad is so exciting, and what the A-League does with a $30mil player when Barcelona come calling. 

Plus, Harry Kewell captured our hearts in 2006 and now he's doing it again 20 years later, how we can shut down Egyptian superstar Mo Salah, Norwegian crowd rowing vibes and World Cup knockout-round tactics.

And of course France are looking unfairly good, England haven't quite got into gear, and why everyone suddenly thinks they’re a football expert.

The only place to watch the FIFA World Cup is on SBS and SBS on Demand. 

 

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