Martin and Des tackle the over hyped LIV Golf claims head on and also debate the problems facing the LIV golfers maintaining OWGR ranking over the next couple of years, why Greg Norman will get ousted as CEO and what the remaining PGA Tour players really think. After this podcast we want to concentrate on real golf played by real competitors and look forward to both the Scottish Open and the Open giving us some actual excitement over the next ten days. As usual please interact with the podcast via our Twitter portal @ITFOG_podcast.