And we're back! As summer fades into the rearview mirror Martin & Des hit the studio to catch up on the big stories since the Open Championship. With the Ryder Cup @ Bethpage literally around the corner, the boys discuss the final makeup of both team plus debate whether Europe can win on US soil in 2025. Both teams look good on paper but who has the edge?

Also our usual roundup of stories from around the wide world of golf, including a rant from Martin about Greg's claim that LIV Golf has created a new asset class for capital investment.

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