Two or Three Gathered

Two or Three Gathered

By Jared Grant, Caleb Zwaadjik & Christine WeltenReligion & Spirituality
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Two or Three Gathered episodes

  • Ep#045 - Interview with Dr Jacqueline Lloyd

    Kia Ora Twos and Threes

    Today we share the interview with the brilliant Dr Jacqueline Lloyd on the topics of her testimony, her vocational ministry (which is rich, tapestried, and enthralling), and her opinions regarding “Christians and the need for higher learning in Christ’s Body:

    • Doctorate on ‘The Itinerant Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth as archaeological verifiable by the Gospel of Mark”

    • Theological Consultant to a variety of Educational Institutions: NZCPT, Laidlaw College, Carey Baptist College, Otago University, YWAM etc

    • Teacher of over 20+ years experience, from New Entrant to Upper Tertiary

    • Experience in a series of Archaeological Digs/excavations in the Holy Land

    • Involved in Church Planting in UK, associated with the Vineyard Churches

    For the wealth of experience and wisdom this woman possesses, she is profoundly accessible and quintessentially a teacher. Given the similar outworked theme of teaching in her life and service is Jesus’ Kingdom, she possesses an uncanny knack for adjusting the complexity and translation of her ideas; this is something I have come to appreciate having seen her teach in a number of the contexts listed above. It is truly wonderful to see how this sister has been used by our Lord so interestingly in any variety of contexts to equip the saints towards a greater love of Jesus via the use of their minds in worship. With a good mix of anecdote and academic discussion, this is a cast I know you will be blessed for viewing.

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    The 2s & 3s Team


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    Professional Links:

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    Laidlaw College- Snr Research Fellow, Snr
    Lecturer:

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    https://www.laidlaw.ac.nz/staff/jacqueline-lloyd/

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    New Zealand Christian Proprietor’s Trust- “Special
    Character” Coordinator/Theological Consultant:

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    https://www.nzcpt.nz/special-character-coordinator

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    LinkedIn- Summary of her Professional Expertise:

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    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-lloyd-2b6259143/?originalSubdomain=nz

    Links to her Thesis:

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    Otago University: https://ourarchive.otago.ac.nz/handle/10523/7675

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    Mohr Siebeck: Academic Publishing: Archaeology
    and the Itinerant Jesus 978-3-16-159347-5 - Mohr Siebeck


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    1 hr 57 min
  • Ep#044 - Interview w. Luke Collis

    Good day to you 2s & 3s,
    In this cast we had the opportunity to interview the remarkable Luke Collis, a NZ based Evangelist who spearheads the God anointed idea for the ministry “UNASHAMED.” It is phenomenal how God is blessing this enterprise, developing their capacity and enlarging their vision a step at a time. But Luke himself is very humble in his wisdom, heartfelt in his love for young people, and hypersensitive to situations and circumstances to where the Gospel can be authentically and accessibly preached. He was a delight to talk to, and will no doubt endear himself to our listeners
    • Youth Pastoral work in Various North Island Churches over 10+ years
    • Evangelism Consultant to a number of Churches
    • Visionary and Lead Speaker for UNASHAMED
    The cast is one part stories, another part theological and another part constructively critical of the NZ Church’s task of spreading the Good News in our blessed country. There is a clear sense of God’s leading and equipping in the ministry of this brother in Christ, and my hope is that you will have yet another opportunity to praise God for his faithfulness and providence in people like Luke. If this cast is anything to go by, Generation Z are hungry for Jesus and the context is prime for the Gospel to be shared.
    God bless and keep you,
    The 2’s & 3’s Team
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    Authentic Men's Magazine- "Unashamed of the Gospel" - https://authenticmagazine.co.nz/unash...
    The Daily Examiner - "Christian Leader calls out New Zealand Churches" - https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/ch...
    "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word -    • "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word  
    Luke's Plug- Worldwide Mission Organization, "Steiger:" https://www.steiger.org/about-us
    UNASHAMED: Links for Contact/Connection:
    Website: https://www.unashamed.nz/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unashamedNZ
    Youtube:    / @ucfn8ltjgp2j00h_u92tcmvq  
    Luke Collis himself: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...
    Apply for the Evangelism Boot Camps! https://www.unashamed.nz/training-camp/
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    1 hr 49 min
  • Ep#043 - Interview w. A.J. Hendry

    Kia Ora Twos and Threes,

    In this episode, we had the wonderful privilege of sitting down to chat with the mighty AJ Hendry:
    AJ is a former Laidlaw Bachelor of Theology graduate, Husband to Summer Hendry, Father to Wesley, Martin, Lewis and proud ‘Westie’ in the Auckland Context.

    • He is a passionate, pragmatic faith-motivated advocate of a variety of Social Justice Causes causes including Youth Wellbeing, Homelessness and Mental Health.

    • His interests also intersect with matters of Politics, Christian culture, and best practice for Youth Work. His roles (past/present) include working for Manaki Rangtahi, Lifewise Youth Housing Leader, Massey Community Trust Board member which includes recent work as Collaborator on the ‘Safety Net Project’.

    • He has spoken publically in a range of settings - Media, Politics, Radio, Council, Churches, TV, Podcasts, Community Gatherings, ( via the likes of TVNZ, the AM Show, Newstalk ZB, RNZ, and various West Auckland settings) and writes regularly via his letterheads “When Lambs are Silent” & more recently “Letters from the Revolution.”

    • Articles from these sites have been shared by the NZ Herald, Newsroom and Stuff on a national level.

    In all of these settings, the man presents humbly and accessibly but with evident zeal to achieve better than before for our rangatahi (the younger generation) in Aotearoa. His discipline of work and self directed study has seen him emerge with a valued contrasting voice on matters which have been typically very polarized. We hope you are blessed by the conversation

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    - J. C. T. & C.

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    His official FB Page:
    https://www.facebook.com/aejayhendry


    His Letter Handles/Blog Sites:
    https://revolutionletters.substack.com/

    https://whenlambsaresilent.wordpress....


    The Youth Activism Spaces he works in:
    https://www.facebook.com/thesafetynet...

    https://www.facebook.com/manaakiranga...

    https://www.lifewise.org.nz/our-servi...


    Media Interactions ( a sampling):

    - 1 News – Lifewise: Youth Housing Leader: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/01/hu...

    - Newstalk ZB – Youth Development Worker: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/h...

    - Newshub - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...

    - Youth Advocate - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...


    Articles written for National News Media:
    Newsroom - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/climate-ju...

    NZ Herald - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/aaron-h...

    Stuff.co.nz - https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/13098...


    Podcasts and Radio

    - His own: https://wlas.substack.com/podcast?fbc...

    - Real Life with John Cowan (Newstalk ZB): https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450...

    - The Honest Theology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ooN...


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    1 hr 28 min
  • Ep#042 - Testimony w. Tony (Pt 2)

    Kia Ora 2’s and 3’s

    In this 2nd Part of a Two part Testimony with our new co-host, Tony explores how his theologically academic journey was used by God to make sense of God’s bigger story through the lived experience of his own story. This informed the focus of his own Masters Research into the subject of “Figural Reading;” a blending of exegetical and eisegetical approaches to hermeneutics whereby reading Scripture transforms us and simultaneously reinterprets our lives within the formation. This blessed Tony with some remarkable insights, not least of all that God is present with us in our pain outside of time for eternity. He holds both our past and present in tension, envisioning with a glorious future for all of creation and humanity.

    Tony also talks us through the years leading up to now, including a long period back in the UK where he was chaplain in one of the hardest schools in England and how that informed his recent decision to pursue teaching as a career. We hope you enjoy and are blessed for in your viewing,

    God Bless you, - The 2's & 3's Team

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    1 hr 14 min
  • Ep#041 - Testimony w. Tony (Pt 1)

    Kia Ora 2's & 3's

    Its high time we formally introduce our newest inclusion to the "Two or Three Gathered" Team. Meet the remarkable Tony, a gift from God in so many ways, not least of all the unique blend of wisdom, accessibility, dynamism and authenticity in this son of God. We felt the best way in which to engage with some of the many reasons as to why we wanted him to join us would be to share his God glorifying testimony.


    Fair warning: there is some gritty and gory stuff Tony describes in his coming to faith in Jesus Christ, but it is in this that God's love shines through so profoundly. There is a genuine Road to Damascus story here that Tony has shared in a variety of settings (even National Radio at one point!). May your faith in Jesus being mighty to save be refreshingly edified in your viewing


    God Bless you,

    - The 2's & 3's Team


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    1 hr 42 min
  • Ep#040 - Interview w. James Andrew Harris

    To our blessed listeners,

    Thank you for listening to us in 2023- We kick of the year with the profound delight of interviewing “James Andrew Harris:”

    • Former World Vision NZ Community Engagement Manager ( Also worked for WV in  Jordan, Middle East & Nauru, Australia)

    • Former “Zeal” NZ Wellington Manager (and other locations) with wife Jenna

    • Now, Youth Worker in Aboriginal Community Belgo ,WA

    • YouthWork WA 2021 Youth Work Awards Finalist

    • Anglicare New Role in 2022: “Mobilsing Churches for Social Action across Australia”

    • Advocate for Refugee Release from Nauru in Australia, World Vision Forum contacting Jacinda to ensure Nauru Refugees given sanctions


    James is someone I can say genuinely walks and talks his walk with Christ. His heart for “the least of these” is equally challenging and inviting and evident in everything he does. More than just professionally, he and his wife Jenna do all that they do with a devout sense of missional worship. 

    Whether its discussing the merits of various Hardcore bands, Sneaky ninja brewskis with politicians live on air (see below), ‘Zines’ written about times in Palestine and its ‘Other Wailing Wall’ or Open letters to Mai FM about Loansharks; you will see through his insights why we are inspired by this man’s humble but steadfast devotion to Christ.

    Sola Deo Gloria,


    - The 2s & 3’s Team 

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    Youth Ministry Misfits Podcast – 

    https://anchor.fm/tim-mullen/episodes...


    Down to Earth Conversations (Podcast) - https://www.downtoearthconversations....


    Open Letter to Tony Abbot re: Australian Nauru Refugees /Asylum Seekers - https://jamesharris460.wordpress.com/...


    Loan Shark Video - Open Letter to Mai FM: https://www.facebook.com/jamesandrewh...


    "The Other Wailing Wall" Zine: https://www.facebook.com/events/82172...


    (Now sold out) https://changeco.bigcartel.com/produc...


    Newshub Live Conversation feat. Patrick Gower (James ninjas a livestream to talk politics - skip to 16 minutes in): https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNZ/vi...


    “The Voyage” Band Member (Once upon a time): https://www.facebook.com/TheVoyageHC


    Youth Work WA 2021 YW Awards Finalist: https://www.facebook.com/YouthWorkWA/...

    (Crediting - among other things - his co-founding of “Youthwork.io” https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...)


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    1 hr 41 min
  • Ep#039 - Movies that Messed Us Up (Pt 2.)

    Kia Ora Koutou 2’s and 3’s! 

    In this fun-but-rambling conversation, we revisit a format we debuted in #013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PGE...) with the mighty Andrew Denton (https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclac...) , where in this installment all the hosts share 3 movies that ‘messed us up’ in all the right ways and challenged us considering Christian Worldview:

    • The Sunset Limited: A philosophical exploration of Nihilism vs Born Again Christianity 
    • The Green Light: A story of a principled surgeon whose sacrificial ethics explore the realism of doing right even when it is at great cost 
    • Midsommar: A dysfunctional couple travel to Sweden with friends for a Midsummer festival, only to find themselves trapped in the machinations of a Pagan Cult 

      • This is also the 2nd we enjoy the company of our new cohost, “Tony Jee,” (https://justicejee.com/) a brilliant, Spirit-filled Christian who we look to introduce in part shortly to you all, and more in depth at a later date via his amazing God-glorifying testimony. We hope you give these a watch and have a laugh and listen as we seek to critique culture through a Christian lense. God bless you all!

       - The 2’s & 3’s Team 

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      The three films, for your viewing pleasure to be considered: 

      • The Sunset Limited: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1510938/ 
      • The Green Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gree... 
      • Midsommar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsommar 

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        1 hr 24 min
      • Ep#038 - Sex: Before/During/After Marriage (Pt 2)

         Hello again 2’s and 3’s

        In this 2nd part installment, while reiterating some points from part 1 we seek to 1) clarify more Biblical Theology with regards to Sex and Marriage, 2) Go into some aspects in greater depth (particularly concerning the “After Marriage angle”) and 3) use Parts 1 & 2 to then Q & A around some questions we believe Christian couples may have wondered about in the intersection between faith and sexuality, but have felt they have come up short in terms of direction. We thank Christine again for her wisdom, accessibility, transparency, candour and compassion with which she speaks on this subject. Her ever pastoral heart is a glimpse of God’s heart in her to see people know His will for their lives. 

        We hope you enjoy this and find it useful,

        - J.

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        Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:


        C.J. Mahaney - "Sex, Romance and the Glory of God: " https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho...


        Matt Chandler (w Jared C Wilson) - " The Mingling of Souls:" https://www.koorong.com/product/the-m...


        Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...


        Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...


        TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...


        Ask Pastor John (Piper, of Desiring God)- "Is Oral Sex Okay?" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzimK...


        The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...


        Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...


        Jubilee Videos:

        Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...

        Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...

        Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...


        Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...


        Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...


        Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...


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        1 hr 25 min
      • Ep#036 - Sex: Before/During/After Marriage (Pt 1)

        Greetings to all "The Gathered,"

        In this two parter, we defer to our resident expert Christine on a biblically based conversation around Sex. Christine previously had a capacity where she spoke to schools and churches around such subjects, thus enabling communities to break taboos and develop comfort to discuss this important subject as it applies to life. We discuss Biblical understandings, principles and ethics, science and anecdotal stories in the building of what we believe is a lifegiving approach to Sex in line with Christ's ideal for our lives.


        To Christ be the glory,

        - C, J. & C.

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        Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex:


        Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ...


        Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L...


        TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK...


        The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...


        Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4...


        Jubilee Videos:

        Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS...

        Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7...

        Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk...


        Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A...


        Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4...


        Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6...

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        1 hr 26 min
      • Ep#035 - Interview with Mark Powell

        Kia Ora 2’s & 3’s

        What a remarkable privilege this Podcast was! We had the profound, poignant and vastly professionally experienced Mark Powell join us for an interview today:

        • Former CEO of “The Warehouse Group” NZ

        • Masters of Apologetics via Biola University, USA

        • Now Lecturer of Apologetics at Carey Baptist College, Auckland

        • Former Adjunct Professor at Massey Business School, Auckland Business School

        • Executive Positions on a series of Boards across NZ & Australia

        We had an in depth discussion concerning apologetics and evangelism in the 21st Century. Much of Mark’s thinking in both business and theology come down to similar epistemic questions- what do we believe to be true? His consistent belief is that all orthopraxis/pathy/doxy stems from this ultimately. We also had ample opportunity to discuss the strawman perspective of ‘Christianity being against the accumulation of wealth,’ critiquing both common assumptions and some of the  more complex thinking that underlies it at the worldview level.

        Mark possesses that skill of a profound economy of words where he can say a multitude of probing and dissecting things with a measured succinctness. As such, there is so much more here that just the time taken itself that I think will help your faith in Christ weigh in the heady topics mentioned above in practical ways.

        As always, we look forward to your engagement!

        - God Bless you,

        - J, C, T & C.

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        First and most important, Mark’s sons-in-law in Hibiscus Coast: https://www.tahielectrical.co.nz/

        https://www.facebook.com/TahiElectrical

        https://www.linkedin.com/company/tahi-electrical


        Carey Baptist College- Mark Powell -  Short Bio: https://www.carey.ac.nz/team-member/mark-powell/


        The Official Website of Carey: https://www.carey.ac.nz/


        Thinking Matters- Longer Bio, and Association: https://thinkingmatters.org.nz/presenters/mark-powell/


        “No Pressure to Leave – Warehouse Boss Mark Powell (2015):” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/no-pressure-to-leave-warehouse-boss-mark-powell/FWBPIBNVPLK7Y3B25DHLVGK3WI/


        Biola University: a Private Christian University in Southern California - https://www.biola.edu/

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        1 hr 41 min

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      “Two or Three Gathered” is a series of conversations with Christian brothers and sisters, considering their efforts and contributions to the Kingdom vocationally, their stories and testimonies of…