Two or Three Gathered

Two or Three Gathered

By Jared Grant, Caleb Zwaadjik & Christine WeltenReligion & Spirituality
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  • Ep#015 - Interview with Vanessa Gatman

    To our Blessed Listeners / “The Gathered,” 

    In this episode we had the opportunity to sit down and interview the magnificent ‘Vanessa Gatman;’ a Masters in Education (focusing on Health and Wellbeing), Author of the Book “I Quit Hating my Body so She could Love Hers” and Co-Founder of the Amazing Charitable Trust ‘You Are.’ On the last, she has been instrumental in the mentorship of now thousands of young women in Auckland and New Zealand, helping them to see their internal, beautiful self-worth and value as 'Imago Dei' in a culture that often depreciates it.   Vanessa is an inspiring and engaging speaker, and holds a variety of roles where she speaks from that depth of wisdom and experience. We recommend the following links for reaching out to her:

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     Her Book, seeking to encourage Mothers of Daughters to role model well: https://www.amazon.com/Quit-Hating-Body-Could-Love/dp/0473454904?fbclid=IwAR0XXVIGIQH16bVl4YN0P1S3rAZKu4m4dquDMbhyY-iJzkytWBbsR2Y3dGU  

    Her Stakeholder role with “You Are” Charitable Trust: https://www.youare.co.nz/?fbclid=IwAR2mMeJ-PjCwA9_yZvTgyFHGJh4wlogTG2oPi5l1ZjDrFUA5X9NdUXPkHBo  

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzxQK2OyEEzN3SUkqGdqGJQ  

    The Amazing Daddy/Daughter Video mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7wwaHCvqok  

    Educationally, Kahui Ako Co-Leader and Middle Manager: [email protected]  

    Her own Personal Website: https://www.vanessagatman.com/?fbclid=IwAR0bE0TqqKoftXxjQehcTZMU19VQ61aSGklc4n_33GmhHyqif43LuDiWZCA  

    Additionally, we briefly mention 'Kathy Tolleston;' you can find her work here: http://www.kingdomlifenow.com/  

    We really hope you enjoy this introduction hearing from her, as she is a guest we would love to have back again to discuss ideas around Christ centered Body Image and Theology around Humans as integrally whole as Body, Mind and Spirit.

     - C. & J. 

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    Music: “Bet on It – Silent Partner” Smooth Jazz Music - All songs licensed under Creative Commons – Youtube Audio Library: Jazz/Calm Sourced from: Relax Music Meditation: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiSKdk1VLuw3bpn788ABH-w _________________________________________________________________________

    51 min
  • Ep#014 - Christine Welten's Testimony

    Hey Two's and Threes.

    Today, we are joined by friend of the Podcast, Christine Welten.

    In this episode, Christine shares her life story and testimony of God's incredible grace and mercy. 

    This is a tough episode to listen to as Christine has definitely been through the hard yards, but due to the grace of God, she is able to hold fast to the profession of her faith, because our Lord is faithful.


    For more information about Christine, her various ministries or getting in touch, check out https://www.christinewelten.com/ and for her dream interpreting ministry, https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=what%20did%20i%20dream%3F

    2 hr
  • Ep#012 - Critical Theory, BLM, & Cultural Marxism.

    Hey "2s and 3s" In this episode, we explore the ideology behind the important movement 'Black Lives Matter.' We also seek to explore the connections to Critical (Race) Theory, Cultural Marxism and Cancel Culture. Here for the sake of cultivating nuanced discussion, there are a variety of sources that present perspectives taking differing supportive/detracting perspectives of Critical Theory:

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    US Stats on Police Brutality”

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/police-brutality-race-numbers/ http://copcrisis.com/ https://vittana.org/42-shocking-police-brutality-statistics

    “Welcome to Babylon:” Jeremy Kendall, with guest Ethan Alolai - Critical Theory

    https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/critical-theory-guest-ethan-aloiai-26-11-2020/id1535138695?i=1000500202224\ 

    “What Happened in Vegas” 2017 Documentary on Las Vegas Police Corruption. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6615426/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

    We unfortunately lost the source study for Caleb's referral to Maori interactions with the Criminal Justice system but here are some similar (and just as, if not, more) concerning figures.

    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2018/05/prisons/crime.html#/ https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/the-side-eye/28-06-2019/the-side-eye-the-receiving-end/?fbclid=IwAR25UVugwBddcMqJqhsnMyPsveKBJjcDbzMPO2tdHpyh0GQuaoqR0MteL8g https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/355487/maori-11-times-more-likely-to-face-prison-report

    Unbelievable? Rasool Berry and Neil Shenvi - Are CRT and the Gospel incompatible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbzPDoEgO_s&t=1s

    Dr. Voddie Baucham  Wretched - An extended conversation… on Social Justice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd1swytlzBg Founders Ministries -
    Cultural Marxism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMFBdDDTkI&t=3212s Allie Beth Stuckley - Exposing and opposing Social Justice Theology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK4TT_6QDA8&t=3318s

    Dr. Robin D’Angelo ( Author of “White Privilege”) - Tonight Show w Jimmy Fallon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA  

    Debunking Myths about Race - Robin DiAngelo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO8qdwggIdI

    Laytonicles - “White Fragility: What an Actual Black Person thinks:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sFdi5iZJ5Q

    David Farrier - Webworm:

    https://www.webworm.co/p/an-update-on-the-smug-maga-hat-wearing
    https://www.webworm.co/p/meanwhile-in-new-zealand
    https://www.webworm.co/p/an-open-letter-to-manukau-christian

    The Liturgists Podcast:

    Cancel Culture - https://theliturgists.com/podcast/2020/9/24/4yq2huvn4ywya70ty03x6ns0kygrr9

    Howard Zinn’s “The People’s History of USA” (for a heck of a read, and J’s perspective on what is a thoughtful, necessary and challenging product of Standpoint Epistimology)

    https://libcom.org/files/A%20People's%20History%20of%20the%20Unite%20-%20Howard%20Zinn.pdf

    Prager U :Talib Starks (5 Biggest issues facing Black Americans);  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faolY5_hnIc  

    Whaddoyou Meme - John McCray - “Why Christians dont support BLM”:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY6me04BGM (Apologies for getting his name incorrect in the cast)

    Allan Parr:

    The Beat  “Should the Church speak out on Social Justice Issues?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_g8dnC1NvU  
    “Should Christians support Black Lives Matter?” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5U1li4QuIs 

    William Edward Du Bois - Sociologist, socialist, Historian, Civil Rights Activist:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Du_Bois

    Frankfurt School’s Herbert Marcusse - Repressive Tolerance:

    https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html?fbclid=IwAR0GdvrRIuQHCtUudG0i18N5j11tnIytYgGP-rK9ily5c9hjIR1DDDvWws0

    2 hr 10 min
  • Ep#011 - Progressive/Emergent Theology & Deconstructionism

    Hey all, thanks for watching/listening to another episode of Two or Three Gathered. See below for links to resources mentionedin the cast, if we've missed anything and you can't find it, let us know!

    As always, your comments are welcome and encouraged!

    Alissa Childers' Content:

    https://www.alisachilders.com/- Alissa's blog, a lot of good reads.

    https://www.alisachilders.com/blog/5-signs-your-church-might-be-heading-toward-progressive-christianity– 5 Signs blog mentioned by Jared.

    Bad Christian Podcast/Emery:

    https://www.emerymusic.com/-Emery the band, a great group.

    https://www.badchristian.com/- The Bad Christian Podcast, started by members of Emery.

    Rob Bell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2rklwkm_dQ– His famous talk, “Everything is Spiritual.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk75oxo2094– Rob Bell and Adrian Warnock on Justin Brierly's “Unbelievable”.

    Richard Rohr's Content:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39028438-the-universal-christ– Rohr's Piece de Heresy, the Universal Christ.

    https://cac.org/- Center for Action and Contemplation, a joint ministry of Rohr, Brian McLaren and others.

    https://cac.org/about/what-is-contemplation/This is an especially telling link, including the links at the bottom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJBHoMJgqE– Video in which a priest introduces Rohr with “I gravitate to thinkers who make me free, Richard Rohr in his ministry has been making me free for 30 years.”

    https://cac.org/substitutionary-atonement-2019-02-03/- Rohr on Substitutionary Atonement and his quote read by Caleb.

    William Lane Craig:

    https://www.reasonablefaith.org/podcasts/defenders-podcast-series-2/s2-doctrine-of-god-attributes-of-god/doctrine-of-god-part-17/- William Lane Craig on the question, “Can God make a rock so heavy that he himself cannot lift it?”

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40735340-the-atonement– William Lane Craig's “The Atonement”

    Others:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye77xzelFZg&t=2394s– Link  to Driscoll's sermon on the Progressive Church.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40874325-the-shack– William Paul Young's “The Shack”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland- “Flatland” by the unfortunately named Edwin Abbott Abbott

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0_uvWKWoLo- “Precious Puritans” by Propogada.

    https://bradjersak.com/- Brad Jersak's website.

    2 hr 6 min
  • Ep#010 - Interview with Ashley Church

    Hey Blessed listeners,

    In this episode we had the privilege of interviewing Ashley Church; NZ Property Expert/Consultant, Cultural Commentator and Joint-Director of the 'Israel Institute of New Zealand.' We had a fascinating conversation about Christians being successful in business, the Israel's Institute's role of addressing Anti Semitic bias in society/media/politics, and the ethics of principles pertaining to being a Christian with wealth.


    Our intention is to bring him back in the future to discuss the controversies around the 'Israel Issue,' as well as the Property Problems facing NZ and how we as Christians can steward ownership well. With this cast serving to introduce him to our fanbase, we hope you enjoy this cast. We would love to hear what you think in the comments below! You can access the various links plugged throughout the cast below.

    God bless,

    C & J.

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    The Israel Institute of NZ - Official Website: https://israelinstitute.nz/​


    Newstalk ZB Talkshow -  The Weekend Collective (The OneRoof Radio Show): https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/t...​


    The NZ Herald - Searching for 'Ashley Church' (scroll through the pages below): https://www.nzherald.co.nz/search/Ash...​


    Ashley Church -  His Blog and Website: https://ashleychurch.com/​


    Ashley Church - Linked In Bio : https://nz.linkedin.com/in/ashleychur...​ 

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    1 hr 14 min
  • Ep#009​ - Christians and Conspiracy Theories : Part 2

    Hi “Twos and Threes”

    Thanks for watching our chat on conspiracy theories. Below are some links for some of the topics mentioned, in no specific order

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlP...​

    Trump talking about the Trade Centre towers. He mentioned the architecture at about 5:15​ onward.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydro...​

    Some cool information about Dihidrogen Monoxide.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNuKp...​

    Shane Dawson's playlist of conspiracy theories.


    https://imgur.com/2vrk0yR​

    Miley Cyrus is dead conspiracy theory.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4736550/​

    The Great Hack


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/...​

    Vice – The movie.


    https://www.amazon.com/Totalitaria-Wh...​

    Totaliaria – The book


    https://daily.jstor.org/the-french-re...​

    French Revolutionary Conspiracies.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconia...​.

    Baconian conspiracy theory.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473303/​

    Hitler survived the bunker Theory.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_a...​

    The Skull & Bones Club.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of...​

    The Book of Shadows (correction from Caleb, by GERALD Gardner – See the info about Aleister Crowley's potential input.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleiste...​

    Aleister  Crowley.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciento...​

    Scientology and it's occult roots.


    https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/bry...​

    Brian Singer's sexual assault allegations.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic...​

    SRA.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10327526/​

    Filthy Rich Series.

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    1 hr 16 min
  • Ep#008​ - Christians and Conspiracy Theories : Part 1

    Hi “Twos and Threes”

    Thanks for watching our chat on conspiracy theories. Below are some links for some of the topics mentioned, in no specific order

    Part two is here:

    https://youtu.be/Ni09gfhzBnw​

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKlP...​

    Trump talking about the Trade Centre towers. He mentioned the architecture at about 5:15​ onward.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydro...​

    Some cool information about Dihidrogen Monoxide.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNuKp...​

    Shane Dawson's playlist of conspiracy theories.


    https://imgur.com/2vrk0yR​

    Miley Cyrus is dead conspiracy theory.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4736550/​

    The Great Hack


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6266538/...​

    Vice – The movie.


    https://www.amazon.com/Totalitaria-Wh...​

    Totaliaria – The book


    https://daily.jstor.org/the-french-re...​

    French Revolutionary Conspiracies.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baconia...​.

    Baconian conspiracy theory.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473303/​

    Hitler survived the bunker Theory.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_a...​

    The Skull & Bones Club.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of...​

    The Book of Shadows (correction from Caleb, by GERALD Gardner – See the info about Aleister Crowley's potential input.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleiste...​

    Aleister  Crowley.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciento...​

    Scientology and it's occult roots.


    https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/bry...​

    Brian Singer's sexual assault allegations.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic...​

    SRA.


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10327526/​

    Filthy Rich Series.

    1 hr 24 min
  • Ep#007​ - Ravi Zacharias: the Recent Tragic Revelations

    Hey all.


    In this episode, we discuss the scandal surrounding Ravi Zacharias’ sexual assaults.

    Below is the link to the RZIM statement about the happenings, at the bottom of the page is a link to the Miller & Martin Investigation:

    https://www.rzim.org/read/rzim-update...

     


    Below are links to some of the articles/resources mentioned:


    - Cover-Up in the Kingdom: Phone Sex, Lies, And God's Great Apologist, Ravi Zacharias - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

    - Christianity Today: 2017 report on initial findings/'allegations' - 

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/new...

    - Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias - https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=...


    Here are a couple other discussions on the topic we found to be insightful:


    - Mike Winger- What Ravi did and where do we go from here: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcWeZ...


    - Acts 17 Apologetics- Making sense of the Ravi Scandal: 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArlP-...

    Further, should you need to report abuse or seek help regarding sexual violence, please reach out using these links in our NZ Context. If you are aware of others in other locations globally, please let us know that we can update this:


    - HELPAuckland: https://www.helpauckland.org.nz/

    - Oranga Tamariki : https://www.orangatamariki.govt.nz/wo...

    - NZ Police: https://www.police.govt.nz/advice-ser...

    - Ministry of Health - Recognizing Abuse: https://www.health.govt.nz/your-healt...

    Love to you all,

    C & J.

    1 hr 18 min
  • Ep#006 Interview w. Christine Welten (Part 2)

    Hey all!  In this episode, we interviewed the wonderful Christine Welten. We have split this into a two-parter as there was just too much good discussion to be had!  Please check out some of Christine’s MANY projects below and some of the resources mentioned in these two episodes. 

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    Christine’s website and blog - www.christinewelten.com   

    Christine’s online church: “The Invisible Body Church” - www.tibchurch.com  

     Equine-assisted mental health therapy - www.horsesrusnz.com  

    Christine’s Dream interpretation Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/Understandmy...   

    Secondary School relationship education programme - www.matesanddates.co.nz  

    Samuel Wells’ Improvisation: The Drama of Christian - Ethics.”https://www.amazon.com/Improvisation-...  

    Craig G. Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen’s “The Drama of Scripture: Finding our Place in the Biblical Story” - https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Scriptur...   

    Thanks for watching, please let us know what you think below! 

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    Intro Music: Tell us by Robbero (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Robbero...   

    Outro Music: Shed by Shebbe (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Shebbe/...

    53 min
  • Ep#005 Interview w. Christine Welten (Part 1)

    Hey all!  In this episode, we interviewed the wonderful Christine Welten. We have split this into a two parter as there was just too much good discussion to be had! Please check out some of Christine’s MANY projects below and some of the resources mentioned in these two episodes. 

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    Christine’s website and blog. - www.christinewelten.com   

    Christine’s online church: “The Invisible Body Church” - www.tibchurch.com   

    Equine-assisted mental health therapy - www.horsesrusnz.com  Christine’s Dream interpretation Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/Understandmy...   

    Secondary School relationship education programme. - www.matesanddates.co.nz   

    Samuel Wells’ Improvisation: The Drama of Christian Ethics - https://www.amazon.com/Improvisation-...   

    Craig G. Bartholomew and Michael W. Goheen’s “The Drama of Scripture: Finding our Place in the Biblical Story” - https://www.amazon.com/Drama-Scriptur...   

    Thanks for watching, please let us know what you think below!  

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    Intro Music: Tell us by Robbero (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Robbero...  

     Outro Music: Shed by Shebbe (c) copyright 2018 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial  (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Shebbe/...

    56 min

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“Two or Three Gathered” is a series of conversations with Christian brothers and sisters, considering their efforts and contributions to the Kingdom vocationally, their stories and testimonies of…