Two Ordinary Cops

Two Ordinary Cops

By benschultz

The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their... more
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  1. Number 1: Episode 137 - The Man Who Wasn't There.

    What does a major murder investigation really look like from the inside? This week, Damo takes us back to Operation Nina, the investigation into the 2011 murder of Ray Niceforo in Katherine — the Northern Territory’s first known contract killing. Damo was one of the investigators at the front end of the case and personally arrested Zach Greve, one of three young men initially convicted of the murder. Greve would later be released after the court found there was no evidence establishing that he was present at the scene — ultimately becoming the subject of Dan Box’s book, The Man Who Wasn’t There. But Damo was there. He takes us behind the headlines and into the investigation as it unfolded: the discovery of the body, the first crime scene, the breakthrough admission that suddenly changed everything, simultaneous arrests and the enormous investigative effort that followed. We also break down what television rarely shows — 12 to 18-hour days, search warrants, endless CCTV, exhibits, running sheets, intelligence coming in from dozens of directions, daily briefings and investigators following separate lines of inquiry before bringing everything back together. And Damo gives his own perspective on Greve and the investigation, while making clear where his personal opinion differs from the findings ultimately made by the court. It's an inside look at major crime from two former cops who have actually worked these investigations — where the breakthrough might happen in seconds, but getting there can take thousands of hours.

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  2. Number 2: Episode 136 – Behind the Cordon/ When Police Face the Unthinkable.

    This week on Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo take listeners behind the police cordon following the recent tragic murder-suicide in Charleville. We break down what actually happens during a major critical incident — from inner and outer cordons and specialist police to negotiation and the difficult decisions being made behind the scenes. Schultzy also reflects on attending a murder-suicide as a young probationary constable in Katherine and the confronting jobs police carry with them long after the shift ends. We recognise the Charleville constable who ran towards danger to rescue an 18-month-old child, awarding them our Big Camo Sauce – Extra Sauce on the Burger for going above and beyond. Then, because policing isn't always doom and gloom, we finish with a Carton of the Week involving NSW Police, a suspected body in a suitcase… and a very unexpected sex doll. Schultzy also gives a strong recommendation for David Raymond’s Vader: A Police Dog Story — the true story of Sergeant Raymond and Police Dog Vader, who spent five years tracking offenders, finding missing people and saving lives across North Queensland. An outstanding insight into what police dogs and their handlers do on the frontline. Get Vader: A Police Dog Story Available in paperback and eBook from Big Sky Publishing and through major Australian booksellers. Vader – Big Sky Publishing

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  3. Number 3: Episode 135 – Undercover, Unbroken: Todd Maguire

    Former Queensland Police detective and undercover operative Todd Maguire shares the story behind the badge. What starts as a conversation about policing quickly becomes something much more powerful. Todd opens up about personal tragedy, PTSD, grief, healing and finding purpose again after life changed forever. For us, this episode felt like the best kind of police debrief. You start by talking through the toughest moments, but somehow finish with laughter, hope and a lighter load than when you arrived. That's something first responders have always understood—real conversations don't leave you feeling worse, they remind you that you're never carrying it alone. If this episode encourages just one first responder to start a conversation, or reminds one person they're not alone, then it's been worth having. Todd Maguire's book – Death Wish 🇦🇺 Australia: toddmaguire.com.au 🌏 International / Amazon: Death Wish – International links

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  4. Number 4: Episode 130 – The Real Northern Territory: Beyond the Headlines

    Before Two Ordinary Cops ever had a name, one of the titles we seriously considered was The Real Northern Territory. It only seems fitting that 130 episodes later, we finally tell that story. The Northern Territory is unlike anywhere else in Australia. It's a place of breathtaking landscapes, unforgettable characters, incredible mateship, and communities that leave a lasting mark on everyone who spends time there. But it's also a place that has faced its share of challenges, many of which rarely make the headlines with the full story behind them. In this episode, Schultzy and Damo take you on a journey from Darwin to Katherine, Tennant Creek, Alice Springs and some of the Territory's most remote communities. They share the places they loved, the people they'll never forget, the humour that got them through the toughest days, and the realities of living and policing in Australia's last frontier. This isn't a policing episode—it's a conversation about a place that shaped who they are. Whether you've lived in the Territory, visited once, or have always wondered what life is really like beyond the headlines, this episode offers an honest, heartfelt and often hilarious look at one of Australia's most unique places. If you've ever wanted to know what the real Northern Territory is all about, this is the episode for you.

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  5. Number 5: Episode 129 – The Battle After the Battlefield: Bravery, Betrayal and the Price of Service

    The conversation around Australia's Special Forces has never been more relevant. After watching the powerful documentary Bravery and Betrayal, Schultzy and Damo take an honest look at the extraordinary courage of the men who served in Afghanistan, the sacrifices made by their families, and the toll that service takes long after the fighting ends. From daily combat operations and impossible decisions to the loyalty between mates, military working dogs, and the support of families back home, this episode explores what it truly means to serve at the highest level. The boys also discuss the importance of fair investigations, leadership under pressure, and why those who put themselves in harm's way deserve both accountability and unwavering support when the facts are established. This isn't about politics. It isn't about personalities. It's about recognising those who answered Australia's call, understanding the realities of modern warfare, and asking difficult questions about loyalty, leadership, sacrifice and justice. Whether you've worn the uniform, know someone who has, or simply want to understand the human stories behind the headlines, this is an episode that will challenge your thinking—and one you won't forget.

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