Michael has been doing ministry for three decades and this past week his current congregation voted to officially ordain him to Pastor. The process of ordination is not just the tasks the Pastor-to-be does, but the discernment of the community is a key component. Listen in on the two pastors as they talk about community discernment, hesitation and affirmation.

What matters to you? What matters to the ones you love? The two pastors have a lively conversation about figuring out how to honor the other while still being true to one’s self, how to adjust our language, our food consumption, our stride so that we can walk together.

[PARENTAL ADVISORY: The two pastors discuss the use of adult language, and certain examples used as illustrations may not be appropriate for younger children. Parental discretion is advised.]

What happens when we watch and read the news through the lens of love? Whether it’s the suffering that happens all around the world, or the devastation in North Carolina, or the nomination and confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh, the two pastors talk about the need for a culture of truth: a place where honest reflection yields appropriate responses of consequences and/or forgiveness.

Pastor Michael led an intergenerational mission trip to Port Arthur, TX this summer to do some relief work from Hurricane Harvey. In this episode, he shares how he thinks the relief effort is going so far. But with any conversation about relief work comes the realization that charity is not the answer. The two pastors talk about the difference between charity and equality, and equality and justice. Listen in on a conversation about opening our eyes and our lives to vulnerable needs that are all around us.

The two pastors continue their conversation with author and podcaster, Cindy Wang-Brandt on progressive faith parenting. Her passion to raise spiritually grounded and socially mindful children is inspiring and prophetic. Come learn from her, just as we did.

This is a stand-alone episode, but for those who missed the first part of the conversation, please refer to Episode 134.

The two pastors enjoy a conversation with author and podcaster, Cindy Wang-Brandt. She writes and speaks about progressive faith parenting. Her passion to raise spiritually grounded and socially mindful children is inspiring and prophetic. This two-part conversation will be published as Episodes 134 and 135; in this episode (134), Cindy presents to us the five pillars of progressive faith parenting. Come learn from her, just as we did.

It’s Saturday morning and what’s on your television? The two pastors wax nostalgic with Road Runner, Speedracer, Battle of the planets, Wonder Twins, and Pinky and the Brain… to name several. Have you ever wondered how much of your understanding of the world came from the cartoons you loved the most? Let’s find out!

This past Monday (8/13/2018), Pastor Beth and her congregation demolished their sanctuary after years of planning. She and Pastor Michael talk about our ancestors of faith and how they “inhabit” our sacred spaces, but are not limited to space or time. Listen in on this conversation as they say thanks to those who have gone before us and who have taught us what “holy” is.

The two pastors meander their way through changes in Michael's hometown, imagining the breadth of God's embrace of all of us, particularly those who often have not been told God loves them.

Nostalgia can be dangerous. How do we live into this season of life (personally, professionally, communally, nationally) where we let go of what was and look with hope for what will be?