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Nicki has worked in recruitment for many years, and she has seen A LOT of changes in that time.
In this Break Room chat, Nicki and Chops talk through a lot (whilst also barely scratching the surface); not least 'age', and how it can be tough as an 'older' person applying for jobs and going up against not only people in their thirties, but twenty somethings as well... Because young people are smart and they play the progression game way better than older generations ever have.
The ladies also chat AI, part-time vs hybrid and indeed employer reticence to ever look beyond their industry lane.
Please meet Nicki.
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Even though Helen did an Art History degree when she was younger, it wasn't what she went on to pursue as a career. Why? Lots of reasons, but the main one being that she simply didn't think she could, either due to societal perceptions, and/or financial restrictions... It wasn't a job she thought someone like her could do back then.
But now that she's in her 40s and has bossed a successful marketing career for nearly 20-years, it's a different ball-game. That youthful fear has been replaced by an innate belief in her own ability.
Helen's goal and her plan is simple: To make art accessible to all, not just the elite. Everyone and anyone that would love to find affordable (to them), meaningful pieces to hang and have at their homes or places of work. 'The Art Buyer's' ethos is about helping anyone find and buy artwork - and to help more artists sell artwork, irrelevant of their background.
Please meet Helen.
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It's really difficult to describe/articulate how beautiful Meg's flowers are - and how crazy realistic they are.
It's also really difficult to articulate how brilliant it is as a business... Because it's so utterly unique. There's no world in which - prior to this pod, perhaps - you'd leave college and go: 'Right, I'm going to become a paper-flower artist and make money that way'.
And yet you can.
Meg is.
And she LOVES it!
Please meet Meg.
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Katie owns and runs an estate agency, and has been bossing it in the property world for years, but, that's not all she's about.
Katie is not one thing; she never has been, and she never will be; and that's just fine. Yes it means a squiggly career/life journey (as we see with lots of our TWW pods), but it's an evolving journey with one firm goal: To find true happiness and peace in whatever she does.
So when we tell you that alongside her very 'straight' property business, she's also a reiki master and healer, it shouldn't be too much of a surprise 😉
Please meet Katie.
PS. The background noise you can hear is from Katie's garden... It was a glorious, sunny day, so we sat outside to chat; which meant, bugs, dogs and neighbourhood strimmers. But as always, we're good with that :-)
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Hearing Nicola's story, and hearing how she put her own career on hold in support of her partner's (who went on to be her husband), and then in support of her kids, will resonate with A LOT of women.
But hearing how she then reclaimed her career - her sense of self - as soon as the kids were a bit older, was equally joyous to hear.
Because there is no 'right' way to build a career - no 'right' timeline to follow - and successful relationships/successful marriages are all about 'partnership' (in my view, at least). Nicola took the early sacrifice for the greater good, and her husband later sacrificed and supported her for the greater good. And Nicola is good; her whole persona exudes calmness and peace, which is why she's a great natural healer. She lives and breathes physical and energetic healing... which is why she really very good at it!
Please meet Nicola.
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Like LOTS of the women, Lisa has very much taken the long way to get to where she is today, which is following her true passion in fashion design and dress-making. A passion she had as a young 16-year-old (if not younger), but somehow got distracted from.
... A distraction that has seen her do some mad jobs/roles along the way, whilst having and raising two amazing daughters near enough on her own.
Thankfully the years between then and now have not gone to waste, and she's now combining her dress-making passion with with her years of teaching in adult education, and runs sold-out courses and programmes for anyone that wants to learn how to do what Lisa does... Which is to create amazing new garments (from old/existing clothing and rags) that will fit your shape perfectly.
Please meet Lisa.
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Jo's journey and career story articulates 'change' brilliantly.
She made changes to suit her family - her children's - needs at the time, or at least what she thought they were. She left big pharma and re-trained became a teacher so that she could have matching holidays with her children, and (as she thought beforehand), similar working/school hours to them.
But what she didn't factor in, was her own fundamental ambition, coupled with her innate need to go that extra mile; which in the end meant she worked even crazier hours teaching than she had in big pharma (feeling the full responsibility of the role)?! She then got (as she had in pharma) multiple, quick promotions, which duly put extra responsibility on her shoulders... And gave her even more 'extra' miles to go.
The result? When her children were a bit older, she left teaching and went back to her previous role (even though people told her she couldn't, because 'she'd been out of it for too long'), and was quickly, and is still, bossing it all over again.
Please meet Jo.
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What's great about Sophie's pod, is that like Leah, Sophie has bossed her teaching career thus far. But in addition, 4-years ago she scratched an itch she'd had for a long time, and went to teach abroad. Moved her whole family to Thailand!
And when we say teach, she did teach, and was a Head of department (here in the UK and out in Thailand), but was quickly bossing it so much (in Thailand) that she got promoted to an even bigger Head, so in fact now doesn't teach much at all.
Sophie has LOTS of great intel about working abroad; what's it's like and what the packages you get are, so if you're a teacher that's got the same itch, do give Sophie a listen. And if you're currently doing something else altogether, but have always fancied teacher, please do give both pods a listen... and indeed our teacher-esque Break Room chat, which goes live on Sunday.
Please meet Sophie.
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Very much a good-time girl when she was younger, and in lots of respects unsure what she wanted to do 'career-wise' post gap-year'ing and uni - other than use her languages, which Leah was/is excellent at - it's almost chance that took her into teaching.
... Because she isn't a qualified teacher!
And yet Leah is a teacher... Well, she was... She's now flourished so much that she's a Head of Lower School for a very prestigious private school in Surrey. Interesting, right?
Please meet Leah.
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Henna gives lots of great advice and intel about the highs and lows of dentistry, and is honest about what was and wasn't 'for her' within the field; but perhaps the most poignant topics covered, were about the current craze for fillers and veneers; and (not only what that fundamentally does to your teeth, but), the fact that any work is final?! Something lots of, particularly young people, don't consider.
... Teeth NEVER grow back, so whatever cosmetic work you do, is done for life. The consequences of it are a lifetime of upkeep, dental bills and... quite frankly... paranoia.
Please meet Henna.
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From the publisher's feed
TWWork (formerly 'This Woman's Work') is a multi-faceted career resource and content library, that has interview-based podcasts at its core.
TWWork was set-up to tackle two fundamental…
Because fitting into the working world is hard
For lots of us, but especially for (our main/core audience of) women who have made sacrifices for their children/families and when they try to ‘come back’ to work, (too) often find they no longer fit into a career, or indeed a role they once held dear.
But fitting in is a problem that affects not just working mothers… It has never been harder to find, fit into and thrive in the right job, which is madness. But a madness that TWWork wants to help cure.
Because the recruitment system/industry globally is outdated
... and fundamentally restrictive, and it needs a massive shake-up!
Countless talent is going under-utilised, globally, either because it can’t be ‘easily’ or ‘conveniently’ found, or because recruiters only want to look for linear candidates that fit into predetermined boxes.
Or, because more and more AI and tech-based recruitment solutions think they can find the ‘right’ people via data and coding algorithms, which ignore everything special and unique about a person.
This is a human problem and we are going to ‘cure it’ in a human way.
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