Episode 5 : Show Notes

* Dipping into fours and the Body, Heart, & Head Centers.

* Bea & Uranio’s podcast: “Enneagram 2.0”.

* A very brief overview: the 3 centers!

* Fours over-identify with the Heart Center, and health is bringing the other two centers online.

* Just because we’re fours doesn’t mean we’re healthy in the Heart Center.

* Relaxing the Heart Center - and potential benefits of a sitting practice for the Head Center.

* When Victoria watches the content of her thoughts, she can see how she often dramatizes.

* Sitting practice is quite simple, clarifying, and opens a Presencing.

* Victoria’s yoga practice: deepens awareness into all three centers.

* Victoria and Bryce note that V’s yoga teaching is now less heart-dominated and more balanced, rooted in all three centers.

* Victoria is loving the workout room at the local rec center: a simple being-in-the-body.

* She’s not always had a good relationship with her body. In her 20s, she was motivated by an inferior image and an attempt to get the self-hatred out of her.

* The valuable place of therapy.

* Living in the superficial of the three centers vs living in the deep gifts of each center.

* There is a way through the suffering of the four!

* Do fours require therapy, in a way that other types don’t seem to need as much?

* Bryce asks CgatGPT “What is the most common enneagram type in therapy?”

* ChatGPT answers! And also delivers a ranking for all the types, most likely to least likely to be in therapy.

* Bryce does best when engaging regularly with the Body Center. And it’s simple. Though it hasn’t always been easy.

* Bryce’s Heart Center and self-preservation instinct would push him, in his adolescence, further into his Head Center, into excelling academically.

* Once Bryce hits college, he plunges into the physical.

* Victoria likes how Bryce says “karate”.

* “Being in my body feels really good”, and offers relief from an overwhelming emotionality.

* Victoria sees and feels how much Bryce holds inside, as a self-pres four. - and her seeing really helps him.

* Path of the four embraces simplicity.

* “Direction of my emotions is complexity, but the direction of my body is simplicity.”

* Being in the body, heart, and head: more whole.

* “The lower I get, the more I punish myself - and it’s all emotional.”

* Victoria questions whether Bryce’s relationship with his body has been largely driven by his self-preservation instinct - a pushing away of what’s really here, not addressing the elephant in the room.

* Bryce untangles the elephants, with sidekick assistance from Victoria.

* It’s only recently that Bryce has been addressing the wily predicament of the self-preservation four (who “denies envy”).

* Addressing the centers may be easier (and more obvious) than working to unbind the challenge of the subtype.

* The path is distinctly different for each of the type four subtypes.

* Balancing the centers seem to be foundational in enneagram growth work.

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