Uncertain

S3:E18 - The Role of Anger in Healing & Empowerment with Dr. Laura Anderson (Season Finale)

Katherine Spearing

Dr. Laura Anderson is the cofounder of the Religious Trauma Institute, and founder of Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery she’s a licensed therapist, and professor of psychology. Instagram//Facebook: @drlauraeanderson

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S3:E17 - The Dynamics of Abuse with Polly & Bob Hamp

Katherine Spearing

In this episode with Polly Hamp and Bob Hamp we discuss the dynamics of abuse, the difference between being abuse informed and trauma informed, navigating when abusers are posing as advocates on social media, and narcissistic abuse.

Polly and Bob Hamp are the owners and visionaries behind the Think Differently Center. They have enjoyed blending their skills and vision to form the foundation of a place where people can find personal help, training, and community. They both have a strong desire to see people become themselves fully and be equipped to impact the world around them.

THRIVE episode mentioned in this episode on the dynamics of abuse

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S3: E16 - When is it a Cult? with Gerette Buglion & Lisa from igotout.org

Katherine Spearing

Discussing the difference between a cult and a high control environment and the fine line between them. Addressing different tactics cult leaders use to control and how we reconnect with our core self after we’ve gotten out.

Gerette Buglion is the co-founder of igotout.org, and is a spokesperson for the #igotout movement, co-manages day to day operations and communications while also providing her expertise in Cult Recovery and Education. Gerette is creator and facilitator of Writing to Reckon - and offers free classes for people to write their #igotout statement in a supportive environment. Gerette’s educational memoir, An Everyday Cult was published in May 2021. 

Gerette is dedicated to helping others navigate, heal from and avoid the complex power dynamics involved in coercive control. From writing workshops, readings, and consultations to public talks, Gerette’s work aims to cultivate compassion and discernment by engaging healthy dialogue and a psycho-educational approach that promotes autonomy and authenticity.

Lisa co-founded and created igotout.org. She receives, designs, coordinates, and publishes survivor’s stories, educational materials, and resources for the igotout social media. Lisa is the main point of contact for igotout communications through email as well as messaging on the igotout social media platforms and is a generator of community building initiatives within the #igotout space.

Lisa is a firm believer in Creativity being The Great Healer…for all trauma, but especially when it comes to recovering from cultic influence where one’s voice is often silenced. Through empowering and facilitating others to safely express their stories and voices, she discovers her own path of creativity and healing.

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S3:E15 - How to Tell Your Story with Jennifer Wainscott

Katherine Spearing

This is a great episode for the trauma survivor who is beginning to share their story with the world. Who do you share it with? What elements are important? And what places and spaces might not be equipped to receive the story?

Jennifer Wainscott is a licensed professional counselor in St. Louis, MO. She is also the creator and founder of St. Louis Storytell, where storytellers take the stage to share a true story from their life with the audience. Jennifer has worked with arts groups, ministries, non-profits, and community support groups in addition to providing private story coaching. She believes that everyone has a story to tell.

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S3:E13 - Abuse in Churches with Mike Sloan (A Most Loved Episode)

Katherine Spearing

This is one of our Most Loved episodes from Uncertain Featuring Mike Sloan from netgrace.org

Resources mentioned in this episode:

tearsofeden.org

netgrace.org

DARVO stands for "Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender." From Jennifer Freyd

Protecting the Gift

Mike’s Recommended Resources:

On all forms of abuse:

The Cry of Tamar: Violence against Women and the Church’s Response by Pamela Cooper-White (Fortress Press, 2012)

On Intimate Partner Violence:

Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft (Berkley Books, 2002)

Helping Her Get Free by Susan Brewster (Seal Press, 2006)

No Place for Abuse: Biblical and Practical Resources to Counteract Domestic Violence by Catherine Clark Kroeger and Nancy Nason-Clark (InterVarsity Press, 2010) 

Refuge from Abuse: Healing and Hope for Abused Christian Women by Nancy Nason-Clark and Catherine Clark Kroeger (InterVarsity Press, 2004) 

Religion and Intimate Partner Violence: Understanding Challenges and Proposing Solutions by Nancy Nason-Clark, Barbara Fisher-Townsend, Catherine Holtmann, and Stephen McMullin (Oxford, 2018) 

On Child Abuse:

The Child Safeguarding Policy Guide for Churches and Ministries by Basyle Tchividjian and Shira M. Berkovits (New Growth Press, 2017)

On This Rock: A Call to Center the Christian Response to Child Abuse on the Life and Words of Jesus by Victor Vieth (Wipf and Stock, 2018)

Predators: Pedophiles, Rapists, & Other Sex Offenders: Who They Are, How They Operate, and How We Can Protect Ourselves and Our Children by Anna Salter (Basic Books, 2003)

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S3:E12 - Characteristics of a Toxic Faith System with Lauren Hunter

Katherine Spearing

Lauren Hunter is the author of the book Leaving Christian Science and is a former Christian Scientist (not to be confused with scientology). She’s also had a long relationship with the evangelical church. We discuss the 10 characteristics of a toxic faith system comparing christian science and evangelicalism.

Kingdom of the cults

Steve Hassan BITE model

Jesus and John wayne

What’s a christian to do with harry potter

FFCSministry.org

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S3: E11 - Church, Abuse of Power, and Jesus with Diane Langberg (A Most Loved Episode)

Katherine Spearing

New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side

This is one of our Most Loved episodes. Diane Langberg has been a huge voice in understanding abuse, abuse in churches, and sexual abuse. She’s a psychologist, writer, speaker, and sits on the Board of GRACE, Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment.

Most of us who are survivors of Spiritual Abuse or abuse in churches eventually find our way to Diane’s work because she very specifically speaks to the spiritual component of abuse—especially when that abuse occurs in a Christian environment.

Uncertain is a podcast of  Tears of Eden, a community and resource for those in the aftermath of Spiritual Abuse. If you’re enjoying this podcast, please take a moment to like, subscribe or leave a review on your favorite podcasting listening apparatus. You can support the podcast by going to TearsofEden.org/support

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S3:E10 - A Novelist Tells the Truth with Lauren McBrayer

Katherine Spearing

Today’s guest is author and lawyer Lauren McBrayer. In this episode, we address women in the church, the power of narrative and storytelling, exploring sexuality through writing, and the embodied and healing experience of creating art.

Sermon mentioned in this episode

Like a House on Fire

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S3:E9 - Was Jesus Sexually Abused? with Keanu Heydari

Katherine Spearing

Keanu Heydari is a doctoral candidate at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. He studies migration and race in Europe. He’s also interested in New Testament studies, social justice, and amplifying the voices of the marginalized in the church.

TW: for this episode, as it addresses some difficult subjects, including sexual abuse.

Here is Keanu’s article referenced in this episode.

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S3:E8 - The Church, Divorce, & Abusive Marriage with Natalie Hoffman

Katherine Spearing

This episode is a little different than our normal interview style. Guest is Natalie Hoffman from the Flying Free podcast, but throughout the episode, we’re also going to hear real stories from women who have gone through the experience of abusive marriage and divorce and who experienced the church not only as unsupportive, but also abusive in its interaction with the situation. This is not isolated. It happens far too often. And the church needs to do better.

 

Special thank you to Leslie Trovato and Marie Griffith for consulting on this episode. Thank you to the women who sent in their stories for this episode, so other women know they are not alone.

 Gretchen Baskerville’s book, Lifesaving Divorce

Divorce and Remarriage in the Church

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