In this 2nd episode in the 2-part discussion on marriage, Katie and Gretchen discuss forgiveness in marriage. Where does it come from? What does it mean? What doesn't it mean? While both comforting and painful, forgiveness in marriage comes from outside of us, for us.

They also talk a bit about divorce, both seeking to prevent divorce, and putting divorce in its proper place. Divorce does not shake our salvation or make us lesser Christians.

The guys are there too for this one, but let's be honest, Katie and Gretchen had things to say, drawn from their years in women's ministry.

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