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What can a high school band teach business owners and creators about AI, social media, and staying creative?
The Chenangos are a group of high school friends from Orange County, California, making music in a world where artists are increasingly expected to think about algorithms, views, followers, and content alongside the music itself. Drawing inspiration from The Beatles, The Ventures, surf rock, jazz, funk, and other artists from generations before them, they’ve developed a perspective that feels surprisingly relevant to anyone trying to create something today.
The band officially came together almost by accident. Days before a school talent show in January 2025, drummer Joey Bernabe needed a backup band after his original group fell through. His friends stepped in, they rehearsed once, performed together, and The Chenangos were born.
In this episode of Unfinished Business, Eric Mulvin sits down with The Chenangos to explore what it looks like to create in an era dominated by social media and rapidly evolving AI. They discuss the pressure musicians face to chase trends and build an online audience — and why focusing too much on what gets views can pull creators away from the work that made them want to create in the first place.
The conversation also tackles one of the biggest questions facing creators and businesses today: Where should AI fit into the creative process? The band shares where they believe AI can be genuinely useful, from learning new skills to restoring old recordings, while explaining why they don't want technology replacing the human process behind making music.
Along the way, they talk about friendship, creative chemistry, learning from previous generations, finding an audience without losing yourself, and what they hope to accomplish before graduation takes their lives in different directions.
Whether you're building a band, a business, or a brand, The Chenangos offer an unexpected Gen Z perspective on a challenge every creator faces: How do you embrace new technology without letting it dictate what you create?
Listen to the episode to hear what a high school band can teach us about AI, social media, creativity, and making something because you genuinely love making it.
Episode Highlights
00:00 - Welcome to Unfinished Business
02:23 - How The Chenangos First Came Together
04:04 - One Rehearsal Before Their First Performance
07:15 - Early Bands, Friendship, and Getting Serious
10:06 - Why They’re Drawn to Surf Rock, Jazz Fusion, and Older Music
12:41 - How The Beatles Inspired Their Music
15:26 - Getting an Unexpected Talent Show Reaction
16:24 - Their Goals Before High School Graduation
17:35 - Writing Original Music as Young Musicians
20:40 - Does Social Media Help Young Artists — or Distract Them From the Music?
24:10 - Where AI Belongs — and Doesn’t Belong — in the Creative Process
29:24 - What Gen Z Really Thinks About AI
34:43 - The Story Behind The Chenangos Name
36:09 - Will the Band Continue After Graduation?
41:00 - Their Musical Unfinished Business
About The Chenangos
The Chenangos are a high school band based in Orange County, California, blending influences from surf rock, jazz fusion, funk, pop, and classic rock.
The members became friends through school and music, with several playing together as early as eighth grade. The current group officially formed in January 2025 when drummer Joey Bernabe needed a last-minute band for a school talent show. With only one rehearsal, the group performed together and decided to keep going.
Their musical influences reach across generations, including The Beatles, The Ventures, Masayoshi Takanaka, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and other classic rock and jazz artists.
As they enter their senior year, the band hopes to play more live shows, record original music in a studio, and continue developing a sound that reflects their wide range of influences.
Band Members
McCoy - Rhythm guitar
William - Lead guitar
Joey - Drums
Oliver - Keys
Liam - Bass guitar
Connect With The Chenangos on IG
The Chenagos - https://www.instagram.com/thechenangos/
William - https://www.instagram.com/william.saxingtoniii/
Oliver - https://www.instagram.com/professorleukemia/
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What does it take to build a career that lasts in an industry that's constantly changing?
DJ LuiJay, a DJ in LA’s hottest Radio stations like Power 106 & Cali 93.9, has spent more than two decades building a name in music, radio, entertainment, and business. From learning to DJ as a kid to performing in Hollywood, working with major artists, launching original music, and building multiple businesses, his journey is built on persistence, relationships, and a willingness to adapt.
In this episode, we also explore how AI is changing the creative world, why preparation creates once-in-a-lifetime opportunities, and why success is about much more than talent.
In this episode, we discuss:
Whether you're an entrepreneur, creative professional, or business leader, this conversation is packed with lessons on growth, resilience, and thinking bigger.
Listen to the full conversation with DJ LuiJay.
Episode Highlights00:00 - Welcome to Unfinished Business
04:14 - Discovering a passion for DJing
08:03 - AI's impact on music and creativity
16:37 - From DJ to music producer
21:33 - Recognizing once-in-a-lifetime opportunities
26:23 - Building businesses beyond entertainment
31:08 - Why preparation changes everything
36:28 - Building a team that shares your vision
45:55 - Releasing original music for the first time
56:51 - Why education still matters
1:04:49 - Growing businesses through relationships
1:16:29 - DJ LuiJay's unfinished business
About DJ LuiJayDJ LuiJay (Luiggi Norero) is a Los Angeles-based DJ, radio personality, music producer, entrepreneur, and entertainer. He DJ’s everyday in LA’s hottest Radio stations like Power 106 & Cali 93.9.
With more than two decades in the music industry, he has performed at some of Hollywood's top venues and worked alongside artists including Jennifer Lopez, Pitbull, Nas, Kendrick Lamar, Don Omar, and many others.
Beyond music, he operates multiple businesses, mentors aspiring DJs, and is passionate about creating educational opportunities for young creatives in Ecuador while continuing to expand his brand worldwide.
Connect with DJ LuiJayWebsite: https://djluijay.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/djluijay
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/luiggi.arturo.norero
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@djluijay3
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DjLuijay
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What story are you telling yourself that might be holding you back?
Leadership is rarely limited by talent. More often, it's limited by the stories we believe about ourselves. In this conversation, Vistage Chair Tonya Twitchell shares how leaders can recognize limiting beliefs, embrace curiosity over certainty, and create lasting personal and professional growth.
Eric and Tonya discuss why coaching isn't about giving answers, but helping leaders ask better questions. They also explore the power of peer groups, vulnerability, and developing the mindset needed to lead through uncertainty.
In this episode, we discuss:
If you're leading a business, growing a team, or working to become a better leader, this conversation offers practical insights that can change how you think.
Listen to the full episode for the complete conversation with Tonya Twitchell.
Episode Highlights
00:00 Introduction to Unfinished Business Podcast
02:28 The Role of a Vistage Chair
05:38 Tonya's Journey to Coaching
08:47 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership
11:39 Adapting to Different Leadership Styles
14:34 The Power of Storytelling in Business
17:33 Navigating Personal Beliefs and Stories
20:39 The Transition from Business to Retirement
23:32 The Importance of Perspective in Leadership
26:18 Designing for Life After Business
29:34 What Separates Top Leaders from Others
32:37 Embracing Change and Innovation
35:31 The Future of AI in Business
38:22 Embracing the Future of AI
49:10 Navigating Gender Dynamics in Construction
57:09 The Journey of Personal Loss and Growth
01:03:31 The Challenge of Leadership and Change Management
Connect with Tonya Twitchell
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonyatwitchell/
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 702-860-9133
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How do great leaders handle the conversations everyone else avoids?
After a 28-year award-winning career in radio and television, Mathew Blades interviewed presidents, celebrities, CEOs, and world-class performers. Today, he helps leaders build trust, improve communication, and navigate the difficult conversations that often determine the success or failure of a business.
In this episode of Unfinished Business with Eric Mulvin, you'll learn:
Whether you're leading a company, managing a team, or simply trying to become a better communicator, this episode is packed with practical leadership lessons you can apply immediately.
Episode Highlights
Connect with Mathew
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What do you do when a major international crisis threatens to ruin your event, or when running three businesses at the same time starts tearing your life apart?
In this episode of Unfinished Business, host Eric Mulvin sits down with serial entrepreneur Ken Okazaki, founder of 20X Agency. Ken shares his incredible journey from going broke in India with only a few dollars to his name to building and exiting multiple seven-figure businesses. Along the way, he built a guerrilla TV advertising agency in Uganda, launched sold-out seminars in Japan, navigated a business crisis that nearly led him to work with the Yakuza, and eventually made the difficult decision to sell GoBox Studio in a multi-million dollar exit. He also shares his philosophy on content marketing, AI, entrepreneurship, and why consistency beats chasing viral success. Whether you're building a business, creating content, or facing tough decisions as an entrepreneur, this episode is packed with unforgettable stories and practical lessons.
Episode Highlights
00:00 Eric’s Intro Message
03:15 Why Ken calls himself a builder
05:30 Going broke in India
09:30 Moving to Uganda and meeting his wife
12:00 Building an advertising agency
17:00 Coaching entrepreneurs through content
19:00 The seminar disaster that almost ended everything
22:00 A phone call from the Yakuza
24:00 Building GoBox Studio
28:00 The multi-million dollar exit
34:00 Why content creates opportunities
39:00 Raising six children while building businesses
44:00 Business culture in Japan vs. America
49:00 AI, content creation, and the future
56:00 Why wisdom matters more than intelligence
1:03:00 Ken's unfinished business
Connect with Ken
Instagram: https://instagram.com/kenokazaki
Facebook: https://facebook.com/kenokazaki
20X Agency: https://20xa.co
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In this episode of Unfinished Business, host Eric Mulvin sits down with Lindsey Mastis, a four time Emmy and regional Edward R. Morrow award winning journalist, international keynote speaker, and the founder of Blue Moves Media. Lindsey holds the distinction of being the first local television news anchor in the United States to have artificial intelligence as her official, dedicated reporting beat.
After two decades in the fast paced world of broadcast journalism, Lindsey transitioned into full time entrepreneurship to help AI and tech leaders sharpen their messaging, build trust, and communicate complex technological concepts to the public. In this conversation, Lindsey shares her journey from chasing news stories on the early morning shift to launching her own media advisory firm. She and Eric dive deep into the challenges of maintaining trust in artificial intelligence, the rapidly accelerating pace of tech development, the risk of losing media history due to outdated archiving systems, and the vital importance of human connection in an increasingly automated world.
Show Notes
00:00 – Episode introduction and Pac Biz Outsourcing sponsor message.
02:55 – Introducing Lindsey Mastis and how Eric met her.
07:39 – Launching the first local news AI beat successfully.
17:27 – Transitioning from corporate media to launching Blue Moves.
20:02 – Advising tech founders to solve the AI trust gap.
35:00 – Sharing family business ownership experiences with children.
48:00 – Evaluating generative AI tools and creative copyright hurdles.
54:20 – Why Creativity Still Starts with Humans
58:40 – Why Exposure Shapes Future Entrepreneurs
1:06:32 – Debunking why founders cannot just ChatGPT business growth.
1:10:19 – Global broadcast historical data disappearing from station archives.
1:16:40 – Why human connection is increasingly valuable and irreplaceable.
1:21:40 – United Nations AI summits keynote details and registration.
Connect with Lindsey Mastis
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What happens when a kid who loves drawing grows up to tell stories seen by millions around the world?
In this episode of Unfinished Business, Eric Mulvin sits down with visual artist, photographer, filmmaker, and storyteller Benzi Florendo to explore his remarkable journey from growing up in Dumaguete to creating content featured by the BBC, LA Times, ABS-CBN, GMA, and major international brands.
Benzi shares how a love for art started at age five, why Dumaguete became a breeding ground for creativity, and how a simple downhill race video unexpectedly launched opportunities beyond his hometown. He also reveals his philosophy of storytelling, why emotion matters more than equipment, and how documenting authentic human experiences has shaped his career.
Whether you're a creator, entrepreneur, artist, or someone pursuing an unconventional path, this conversation offers valuable lessons about curiosity, persistence, and the power of telling meaningful stories.
Show Notes
00:00 Welcome to Unfinished Business
Eric introduces the show and today's guest, visual artist, photographer, filmmaker, and storyteller Benzi Florendo.
02:15 Growing Up Between Manila and Dumaguete
Benzi shares his family's move from Manila to Dumaguete and how the city shaped his upbringing.
05:10 Why Dumaguete Captures People's Hearts
The unique culture, lifestyle, and charm that make Dumaguete one of the world's top retirement destinations.
08:20 The City's Artistic Influence
How Dumaguete became known for artists, writers, and creative thinkers.
11:15 Discovering Art at an Early Age
Benzi's first experiences with drawing, poster-making contests, and creative expression.
14:00 Choosing Fine Arts Instead of a Traditional Career
Why he pursued creativity when many peers followed more conventional professions.
17:20 Falling in Love with Photography
How experimenting with his father's camera sparked a lifelong passion.
20:05 Becoming a Multi-Disciplinary Creative
Why Benzi embraced photography, filmmaking, murals, graphic design, and digital art.
23:10 Learning by Saying "Yes"
How taking opportunities before feeling ready accelerated his growth.
26:00 The Downhill Race Video That Changed Everything
The story behind the viral project that opened doors and expanded his career.
31:15 Why Storytelling Matters More Than Technology
Benzi explains his approach to creating emotional impact through visual content.
35:40 Capturing Authentic Moments
The difference between taking photos and telling stories.
39:10 Creating Content People Can Feel
How emotion drives memorable photography and filmmaking.
43:30 Building a Creative Career Through Curiosity
The mindset that helped Benzi continuously learn new skills and adapt.
47:00 Lessons from Working with Brands and Public Figures
Insights from collaborating with major companies and influential personalities.
51:15 Creativity, Community, and the Future
Benzi reflects on where he's headed next and what continues to inspire him.
Follow Paul Benzi Florendo
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulbenzi/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paul.b.florendo
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-benzi-florendo-b4581923b/
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When disaster strikes the communities that power your business, how do you step up as a leader?
In this special solo episode of the Unfinished Business Podcast, host Eric Mulvin shares an urgent update from Dumaguete, Philippines. Following a devastating 7.8 magnitude earthquake that struck the neighboring island of Mindanao on Monday, Eric pulls back the curtain on the reality of the situation on the ground. While the Pac Biz team is safe, countless local communities have been impacted by collapsed buildings, loss of life, and destroyed infrastructure. True to the company's core value of compassion, Eric discusses how business leaders and the global community can step up to support relief and recovery efforts. Tune in to find out how you can stay informed and help the people of the Philippines when they need it most.
Show Notes
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Are you running a 2026 business on a 1954 playbook? In this episode of Unfinished Business, host Eric Mulvin sits down with operational mastermind Derrick Mains to tear down everything you think you know about corporate management. Derrick challenges the standard structure of corporate departments, explains why traditional LLMs are already becoming tech tools of the past, and introduces the concept of agentic AI workflows. They also dive deep into the psychological reality of business exits, exploring why so many founders face severe depression after selling their companies. If you are looking to build a highly optimized, resilient, and human-centric organization that leverages next-level tech, this conversation is your blueprint.
Episode Highlights
10:20 The Problem with Corporate Departments
14:30 The Paradigm Shift in Leadership
19:07 The Move from 1954 Management Models
19:44 The Next Wave of AI Infrastructure
20:48 The Wave of Agency Burnout
24:15 From Text Prompts to Agentic Workflows
29:40 Operational Optimization over Micro Management
34:17 The Reality of the Founder Exit
38:50 The Post Exit Depression Reality
42:00 Cultivating Radical Communication
47:15 Breaking Down Communication Silos
51:10 Engineering Environments for Success
54:30 The One Year at Sea Challenge
55:40 The Illusion of Perfect Placement
57:00 The Trap of Continuous Resource Gathering
Follow Derrick Mains
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickmains/
Website: www.theprocessfixer.com
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Are you sitting on a potential goldmine in your business simply because you lack the time and team to dig into it?
In this special episode of Unfinished Business, host Eric Mulvin broadcasts straight from Manila, Philippines. Recording against the backdrop of bustling city traffic, Eric shares a candid look at what it takes to manage a global business, Pac Biz Outsourcing, while balancing family life and big entrepreneurial ambitions.
Eric opens up about the logistical challenges of running a company with teams and clients spread across the US, Canada, and the UK, explaining why timing and dedicated resources are critical to unlocking hidden revenue streams. He discusses the reality of navigating major global disruptions, like losing significant UK business overnight during the 2020 lockdowns, and how those moments emphasize why timing is everything in business.
Whether you are trying to scale an established company or struggling to get your side hustle off the couch, this episode is a call to action. Eric shares practical strategies for auditing your ideas using AI matrices or voice notes, aligning your team around shared core values, and creating your own luck by saying yes to new possibilities. Tune in to find out how to evaluate your progress halfway through 2026 and set yourself up to achieve your 10-year moonshot goals.
Episode Highlights
Unfinished Business with Eric Mulvin
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