Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Two shot dead in Washington DC, in an attack that shocked many but surprised few. Meanwhile, a string of Israel’s longtime allies denounce the country over the blockade of aid to Gaza, even threatening sanctions. Yonit and Jonathan discuss what’s next and what to make of the partial resumption of humanitarian aid. Plus, they’re joined by fellow Jewish podcaster Jonah Platt, taking the temperature at this moment of angst and revealing what it means to be a Jew in Hollywood in 2025—the challenges and the moments of light.

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Jonah Platt is an American actor, singer, writer, and director known for his role as Fiyero in Wicked on Broadway. He’s appeared in TV shows like The Office and Curb Your Enthusiasm, and written for Family Guy. An advocate for Jewish identity and education, Platt hosts the podcast Being Jewish with Jonah Platt and actively participates in various Jewish organizations. He hails from a family deeply rooted in the entertainment industry, being the son of producer Marc Platt and brother to actor Ben Platt.

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Donald Trump says the US is inches away from sealing a nuclear deal with Iran, an Israeli hostage walks free from captivity thanks to American diplomacy and the warning lights of Gaza are flashing red as talk of a humanitarian crisis gets ever louder. Meanwhile, as the US president's headline-grabbing tour of the Middle East continues to make waves through the region, we’ll unpack its significance with expert insight from Dr. Sanam Vakil of London's Chatham House. Plus - a mensch award 500 years in the making, all thanks to King Henry VIII

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Dr. Sanam Vakil is the director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House. Her expertise spans Iranian and Gulf politics, regional security dynamics, and US foreign policy, with a particular focus on the evolving strategic landscape of the Middle East and its global connectivity.

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• Trump’s Middle East Visit and Its Implications

• Release of US-Israeli Hostage Edan Alexander

• Israel’s Role in Resolving Hostage Situations

• Gaza’s Deepening Humanitarian Crisis and international response

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A dramatic — some might say extreme — proposal to escalate the war in Gaza, fresh signs of daylight between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu and an increasingly direct confrontation with Yemen. This week, we turn to military analyst Amos Harel to make sense of what’s coming — and the competing forces driving events. Plus: a powerful new art exhibition, a spellbinding new play and an outrageous act of chutzpah.

Amos Harel is a prominent Israeli journalist specializing in military and defense affairs. Since 2000, he has served as the military correspondent and defense analyst for Haaretz, one of Israel’s leading newspapers. Throughout his career, he has provided in-depth coverage of Israel’s security challenges, including conflicts and military operations. Harel co-authored two notable books with Avi Issacharoff: The Seventh War: How We Won and Why We Lost the War with the Palestinians (2004), analyzing the Second Intifada, and 34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah, and the War in Lebanon (2008), examining the 2006 Lebanon War.

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As literal winds of fire sweep across Israel, the country marks its 77th Independence Day. But even in a week that should have offered unity and reflection, the political winds howled as well: a public clash between the head of the Shin Bet and the prime minister came to a head, and internal divisions between left and right spilled over—alarmingly—into acts of violence, even amid the solemnity of Memorial Day.

Looking for a note of hope as Israel enters its 78th year, we turned to Eyal Waldman—tech visionary, founder of the Mellanox company which sold to Nvidia for $6.9 billion, and, more recently, a father in mourning. His daughter, Danielle, was murdered at the Nova music festival on October 7th. Eyal speaks candidly about grief, Israel’s fracturing political landscape, whether he sees a role for himself in public life—and about the perils and promise of artificial intelligence.

And in a special moment: a cameo from the remarkable Emily Damari, who offers a few heartfelt words to our listeners - and a reminder of what binds us.

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A solemn week for Israel, marked by mourning – and yet politics, as ever, presses on. At the centre: a widening rift between Prime Minister Netanyahu and the head of the Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency.

 In our conversation this week, we widen the lens. Sam Harris – neuroscientist, bestselling author and host of the Making Sense podcast – joins us to talk religion, politics and the elusive art of clear thinking in a time of sound and fury. Plus: our Chutzpah of the Week award goes to those who seem to have forgotten the basic dignity owed to the sick, while our Mensch accolade is shared by two groups standing firm in defence of their values – even when it’s hardest. 

Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, philosopher, and bestselling author known for his work on ethics, religion, and the human mind. He is the host of the popular podcast Making Sense, and the founder of the Waking Up app, which combines meditation practice with insights from science and philosophy. 
 

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Whether or not you found the Afikoman this year, consider this our Unholy offering for Pesach: a carefully curated collection of six standout moments from the past year’s conversations. A kind of audio Seder plate—without the Maror.

Yonit and Jonathan revisit conversations with Rachel Maddow, Van Jones, Nas Daily, Aviva Seigel, Alex Edelman and Rabbi Angela Buchdahl. From politics to identity, comedy to community, these voices offer the perspective needed for this moment of reflection and renewal.

Rachel Maddow

Rachel Maddow is the host of The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, known for her in-depth political analysis. She is also the author of several books, including Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism.

Van Jones

Van Jones is a political commentator on CNN and served as a special advisor to President Barack Obama. He is also the co-founder of multiple non-profit organisations focused on criminal justice reform and environmental advocacy.

Nas Daily (Nuseir Yassin)

Nuseir Yassin, known as Nas Daily, is a content creator who rose to prominence through one-minute daily videos showcasing global stories. He is the founder of Nas Company, a platform for digital education and storytelling.

Aviva Seigel

Viva Seigel is an Israeli who was abducted from her home on October 7th and was held in captivity by Hamas in Gaza for 51 days. Her husband, Keith, was abduted as well and was released after 484 days in Gaza. 

Alex Edelman

Alex Edelman is a stand-up comedian and writer known for his acclaimed solo show Just For Us, which tackles themes of Jewish identity and white nationalism. He has performed on international stages and written for television.

Rabbi Angela Buchdahl

Rabbi Angela Buchdahl is the Senior Rabbi of Central Synagogue in New York City and the first Asian-American ordained as both rabbi and cantor. She is a leading voice in American Judaism and interfaith dialogue.

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As Jews around the world are about to celebrate the festival of freedom, 59 Israeli hostages are still held in Gaza for a second consecutive Passover. This week: an exclusive interview with the man who was a lead negotiator of the Israeli hostage task force, retired brigadier General Oren Setter, who gives a rare glimpse behind the curtain of the sensitive, nerve-wracking negotiations.

Donald Trump suggests direct talks with Iran, a move that might spell political trouble for Benjamin Netanyahu , chaos in the high court in Jerusalem, and our chutzpah award involves bribing voters with… a Tesla

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As Qatar-gate gathers momentum—following the arrests of two of Netanyahu’s closest advisors and an Israeli journalist—the scandal inches closer to the heart of power. Netanyahu names a new Shin Bet chief and rescinds his decision within hours. Meanwhile, the IDF expands its military operations in Gaza, raising questions about next steps on multiple fronts. We are joined by acclaimed writer and journalist Matti Friedman ("The Free Press") to discuss a dramatic week for Israel.

Plus: A conversation with lawyer, author and scholar Anthony Julius, whose new book casts a piercing light on one of the Bible’s most elusive and troubling figures—Abraham.

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Matti Friedman is an award-winning Canadian-Israeli journalist and author. A former Associated Press correspondent, his work has appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, and The Free Press. Known for his sharp analysis of Israeli society and media coverage of the Middle East, he brings deep insight and nuance to complex regional issues.

Anthony Julius is a British solicitor, literary critic, and academic, best known for representing Princess Diana and for his writing on antisemitism and English literature. His latest work explores the enigmatic figure of Abraham, offering a fresh and provocative reading of one of the Bible’s most iconic characters.

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Israel is once again at war on multiple fronts – and yet, the domestic political drama shows no sign of slowing. As the government barrels ahead with its judicial overhaul, Prime Minister Netanyahu has now shown the door to both the head of Shin Bet and the attorney general, prompting yet more questions about the independence of Israel’s key institutions.

Yonit and Jonathan unpack the growing turmoil, and turn to what’s fast becoming known as Signal-gate – the extraordinary story of a journalist who was accidentally added to a Signal group discussing the US operation in Yemen.

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In the space of a week, Israel is once again at war in Gaza, Ben Gvir is back in government, and Netanyahu is moving to oust the head of Israel’s domestic intelligence agency, the Shin Bet. Meanwhile, the U.S. strikes the Houthis, the Houthis strike Israel, and rockets from Gaza target central Israel. With tensions escalating on multiple fronts, Yonit and Jonathan turn to Haaretz military analyst Amos Harel to make sense of the renewed fighting and the wider political-military turmoil.

Plus: A Mensch award for the record-breaking Israeli tech giant Wiz, and a Chutzpah winner for the podcaster who crossed the line.

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Amos Harel is a prominent Israeli journalist specializing in military and defense affairs. Since 2000, he has served as the military correspondent and defense analyst for Haaretz, one of Israel’s leading newspapers. Throughout his career, he has provided in-depth coverage of Israel’s security challenges, including conflicts and military operations. Harel co-authored two notable books with Avi Issacharoff: The Seventh War: How We Won and Why We Lost the War with the Palestinians (2004), analyzing the Second Intifada, and 34 Days: Israel, Hezbollah, and the War in Lebanon (2008), examining the 2006 Lebanon War.

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